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2 hours ago, Rockstar Matt said:


Real talk, this title from GS proves how much of a gutless, coward KD really is. This team now won titles before KD joined and after. Proving that they never needed him to win multiple titles. It was the most shameful and cowardice title chasing attempt from a great player that I’ve ever seen.
 

Steph is 100x the player KD ever was or will be.  
 

I would have to disagree a bit. 2015 was different because there wasn't much of a game plan for Steph and Klay. 

Warriors signed KD after losing to the Cavs in 2016 (after beating the Thunder with KD). What they needed another quality player, a bigger one, to get them over. It just happened to be KD and the result was beating the Cavs the next two years.

If anything, 2019 proved they needed KD. Yes, they got to the finals without him, but I think they needed him to match Kawhi.

Sure, they probably did not need KD specifically all that time, but they needed a bigger body type to match the opposition.  Andrew Wiggins provided much of what KD had brought. I think he was much a factor in this title run.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Rockstar Matt said:

 

Honestly tho, the Lakers ownership needs to sell the team. They are a disgrace to the franchise and the proud history of the Lakers. If it weren’t for LeBron saving them from themselves, this team would be looking at least another decade before they’d win another title. They had one season where they made good decisions, and resulted in a championship. Everything else in their tenure has been setting franchise worst records, in everything. 

 

They were health away from repeating. The Lakers were the best team in 20/21. They had the shortest turnaround (with Miami) in NBA history and it showed at the end of the season.

 

The 21/22 roster is unforgivable though.

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1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said:

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I shouldn't feel this level of disappointment/rage about my team being a conference champion, but I do! C's played their worst once it counted the most, and you can't give GSW that kind of rope. Really wasn't much more to it than that. The addition this team needs more than anything is the therapist lady from Ted Lasso, it's entirely the lack of focus and poise that did them in after finding themselves in a winnable position against a dynastic team. Total bummer! Oh well, it was a real fun season from January-May at least.

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45 minutes ago, DG_ThenNowForever said:

 

They were health away from repeating. The Lakers were the best team in 20/21. They had the shortest turnaround (with Miami) in NBA history and it showed at the end of the season.

 

The 21/22 roster is unforgivable though.


I agree with that. 2021 I think a healthy Lakers team easily strolls to the Finals that year. 
 

But this season was so egregious, and even the years prior to LeBron joining the team, the Lakers were never even playoff threats let alone title contenders. 

 

Hopefully they’ll be better this next season. I’d love to see a true Lakers/Warriors playoff series next year, and not a stupid play-in game. 

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5 hours ago, DoctorWhom said:

Replace KD with any above average player & the Warriors still win the same amount of titles. 

Getting KD was massively overcompensating on the Warriors part. 


After the 2016 loss to the Cavs, it was pretty glaringly obvious that they needed a better option on the wing than Harrison Barnes, who basically folded like a lawn chair and was a big reason they lost that series. They really could’ve used a guy like Andrew Wiggins who is a perfect upgrade for them. But at that particular time, he wasn’t available, and instead the dude who was just so happened to be one of the greatest wing players and pure scorers in league history. Yeah of course he was “overkill”, but even so they still needed an upgrade at the very position he played. Of course they were going to at least try to get him on board, but I also think they were just as surprised he signed as everyone else was. 

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The Warriors are playing with 4 max guys. Just like they did from 17-19. It's pretty nice if you can make it work.

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1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said:

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Since it’s that time of year, let me give my take that no one asked for.

 

This Finals was a lose-lose for people like me. As a Lakers fan, not only am I happy that they lost(on their home court, no less), they failed to break the tie of most championships. Watching them hopelessly shot-chuck was so satisfying.

 

At the same time, as a LeBron fan, watching Golden State win again felt…stale. Seeing Giannis and the Bucks get a trophy made me feel happy for him, after seeing his career from the start. This year didn’t give off that same feeling of vicarious excitement. For fans of the team, sure, their story was inspiring (after being the worst team in the league two years ago), but for the rest of us, it was a reminder of how annoyingly good they are.

 

Don’t know who posted this, but I saw someone say they were 5% happy for GS and 95% happy that Boston lost, and that perfect sums it up.

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7 hours ago, Digby said:

I shouldn't feel this level of disappointment/rage about my team being a conference champion, but I do! C's played their worst once it counted the most, and you can't give GSW that kind of rope. Really wasn't much more to it than that. The addition this team needs more than anything is the therapist lady from Ted Lasso, it's entirely the lack of focus and poise that did them in after finding themselves in a winnable position against a dynastic team. Total bummer! Oh well, it was a real fun season from January-May at least.

Honestly I'm the opposite. Aside from it having to be GS of all teams that had to win another championship. Going into the Finals I was content with whatever happened. Celtics finally got the Monkey off their back and won the ECF, so at least no one can knock them for not making a Finals anymore. 

 

The core of Brown, Tatum, Smart  are also still incredibly young so they have plenty of time to grow and make it back. 

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On 6/17/2022 at 1:01 AM, FiddySicks said:

It’s been a real strange run watching them. Absolutely elated with the first title, completely heartbroken after the second year, and then it all got flipped on it’s head and weird when KD came aboard. It was normalish, then almost overnight the “approval rating” from everyone else dropped off a cliff.

 

I think the Warriors' plunging approval rating had just as much to do with being adjacent to Big Tech, a villain of the Brooklyn media set. Too many people tried to intellectualize the Warriors' success as being inspired by some cutting-edge Silicon Valley management style, rather than just that Steph Curry makes a ridiculous amount of threes and they can run a modified triangle. It's the kind of weird fawning narrative no one would have afforded them if they played in Kansas City.

 

I enjoyed the Warriors' wins even with Durant, but this one feels a little bit like recent Red Sox wins, where they do these warp-speed teardown-rebuilds. Who's even on the Red Sox anymore? I dunno, but I guess they're good.

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48 minutes ago, the admiral said:

 

I think the Warriors' plunging approval rating had just as much to do with being adjacent to Big Tech, a villain of the Brooklyn media set. Too many people tried to intellectualize the Warriors' success as being inspired by some cutting-edge Silicon Valley management style, rather than just that Steph Curry makes a ridiculous amount of threes and they can run a modified triangle. It's the kind of weird fawning narrative no one would have afforded them if they played in Kansas City.

 

I enjoyed the Warriors' wins even with Durant, but this one feels a little bit like recent Red Sox wins, where they do these warp-speed teardown-rebuilds. Who's even on the Red Sox anymore? I dunno, but I guess they're good.

The Red Sox are 4th in the AL East. They are not good right now

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In news that will shock absolutely nobody.....

 

He really has become the Antonio Brown of basketball. All the talent in the world, completely squandered because he has to burn every bridge he crosses. 

He'd have multiple rings right now if he could just stop being a :censored:. 

I will laugh if he crawls back to Lebron after all this. 

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On 6/20/2022 at 6:19 PM, DoctorWhom said:

In news that will shock absolutely nobody.....

 

He really has become the Antonio Brown of basketball. All the talent in the world, completely squandered because he has to burn every bridge he crosses. 

He'd have multiple rings right now if he could just stop being a :censored:. 

I will laugh if he crawls back to Lebron after all this. 

 

As a Lakers and NBA fan, we don't want him and his drama/baggage.

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6 hours ago, sayahh said:

 

As a Lakers and NBA fan, we don't want him and his drama/baggage.

I'd rather have a borderline All-Star with baggage than an over-the-hill MVP with baggage. Plus, with LBJ running the ship in Cleveland, you didn't hear much "Krazy Kyrie" stories, other than the "flat earth".

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4 hours ago, LA Fakers+ LA Snippers said:

I'd rather have a borderline All-Star with baggage than an over-the-hill MVP with baggage. Plus, with LBJ running the ship in Cleveland, you didn't hear much "Krazy Kyrie" stories, other than the "flat earth".

Because pandemic wasn't happening back then yet.  Having a borderline All-Star that can't play in Canada (granted that's only one game for Western Conference teams) and might miss more games if restrictions are reinstated, that kind of uncertainty should not be tolerated because it'll sow discord in the locker room.  Didn't work out with the Nets for that reason, and unless someone like Steve Kerr can convince him to be less selfish (like how Andrew Wiggins eventually ended up helping the entire team and even had argument to have been entitled to the Finals MVP trophy IMO), I don't think he'll swallow his pride and set aside his ego and might try to fight over leadership from  LBJ rather than be a good teammate like Steph Curry was when GSW ended up getting Durant.  If it works out, then great, but not holding my breath. 

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27 minutes ago, sayahh said:

Because pandemic wasn't happening back then yet.  Having a borderline All-Star that can't play in Canada (granted that's only one game for Western Conference teams) and might miss more games if restrictions are reinstated, that kind of uncertainty should not be tolerated because it'll sow discord in the locker room.  Didn't work out with the Nets for that reason, and unless someone like Steve Kerr can convince him to be less selfish (like how Andrew Wiggins eventually ended up helping the entire team and even had argument to have been entitled to the Finals MVP trophy IMO), I don't think he'll swallow his pride and set aside his ego and might try to fight over leadership from  LBJ rather than be a good teammate like Steph Curry was when GSW ended up getting Durant.  If it works out, then great, but not holding my breath. 

That is true, but for what other reasons would Irving want to play for LA? Multiple reports from numerous sources (some reliable, like Shams, others not so much, like Stephen A.) have said Kyrie is commited to forcing himself to LA, and he has talked to Bron over the phone. Kyrie may be eecentric, but he's not stupid. He knows going to LA means playing second (likely third) fiddle to LBJ and/or AD. He tried to macho thing in Boston, and he knew it failed because he signed up to play #2 to KD in Brooklyn. 

 

IDK if Darvin Ham has the capacity to get players to buy in like Steve Kerr, but Kyrie should be an easy sell. The COVID restrictions are another thing, and you're right about that uncertainty being a side-show (see, BKN, circa 2022). But so far the only restrictions would be in NY(where they lifted them), Toronto, and San Fran. We can't predict when and where restrictions might be placed, but I think the culture Coach Ham is trying to build will be more stable then Brooklyn's.

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