iDonovan Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Just a friendly tip for a few of you out there. I did a logo for an up coming major league lacrosse team. It was all hush hush...untill they got the money in place to start the team. I was aproached to design the team logo. thinking this was my big break I jumped at it. But as it turns out they lost the funding and everything fell apart. Now I gave him the artwork and waited for a cheque. Only to find the logo being used for a local team, just the name was changed. So I did some searching and found the place that did some work for him. As it turns out he was using my logo for his son team without every paying me...and have been avoiding me for months.Basically to short'n the story I had a meeting yeterday with him and the guy that did some work for him. He stood right in front of me a lied saying this other guy just worked from his ideas. (This is the good part) I then open the CorelDraw file on his computer zoomed into the corner of the design so small you could barely see it....and there it was "property of ID by Donovan 2004" Lets just say when I mentioned court a cheque book was opened.Always hide your info in your artwork and designs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittunited Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 That's brilliant. Outstanding work. OWNER -- Pittsburgh Spiders (UL) * Dynamo Missouri (PLA) * Montreal Maroons (SHL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuss16 Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 lol, nice work, cant believe some people will lie to others in the face like that. Doh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordie Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Genius. That's a great tip, iDonovan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Donovan? If you need the name of a good intellectual property firm, let me know... my organization is just now getting through something along these lines ourselves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewharrington Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 that is awesome haha I still don't have a website, but I have a dribbble now! http://dribbble.com/andyharry [The postings on this site are my own and do not necessarily represent the position, strategy or opinions of adidas and/or its brands.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paynomind Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Cheers to you, Donovan.Terriffic idea. NCFA Sunset Beach Tech - Octopi ΓΔΒ! Going to college gets you closer to the real world, kind of like climbing a tree gets you closer to the moon. "...a nice illustration of what you get when skill, talent, and precedent are deducted from 'creativity.' " - James Howard Kunstler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_cynic Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Great tip to leave your ID in the design but any professional designer would know it's there, no matter how small it is. What did he do when he saw your tag line? Utah Jazz Retired Number's#1 - Frank Layden - #7 Pete Maravich - #12 John Stockton - #14 Jeff Hornacek - #35 Darrell Griffith - #53 Mark EatonRetired Number's To Come#00 The Bear (Best Mascot In NBA) - #4 Adrian Dantley - #32 Karl "The Mailman" Malone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYawkSeahawk Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Hey Donovan...Great to see you back around...Thanks alot for responding to my private message! (sarcasm) www.briandoakes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcgd Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Great tip to leave your ID in the design but any professional designer would know it's there, no matter how small it is. What did he do when he saw your tag line? well, if you have a large artboard, and you put it in white in a corner away from the artwork, nobody would ever look there. then you can show them in cases such as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_cynic Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Great tip to leave your ID in the design but any professional designer would know it's there, no matter how small it is. What did he do when he saw your tag line? well, if you have a large artboard, and you put it in white in a corner away from the artwork, nobody would ever look there. then you can show them in cases such as this. Well let's take Illustrator into consideration. Usually if you're dealing with a piece of artwork you would know of every little object within the drawing board would you not? But then again if it's a stolen piece then you probably wouldn't even bother so I guess you're right. It's worth a shot but not 100% bullet proof. Utah Jazz Retired Number's#1 - Frank Layden - #7 Pete Maravich - #12 John Stockton - #14 Jeff Hornacek - #35 Darrell Griffith - #53 Mark EatonRetired Number's To Come#00 The Bear (Best Mascot In NBA) - #4 Adrian Dantley - #32 Karl "The Mailman" Malone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick 1733 Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 may not be bulletproof, but it's a wonderful idea and a good way to try to insure that it in case something like that happenes, you have your proof. MLB, NBA, NFL & NHL Font Packs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_cynic Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 I've always wondered to myself.........why hasn't Adobe installed some type of security into Illustrator that would allow people to password protect their documents? Utah Jazz Retired Number's#1 - Frank Layden - #7 Pete Maravich - #12 John Stockton - #14 Jeff Hornacek - #35 Darrell Griffith - #53 Mark EatonRetired Number's To Come#00 The Bear (Best Mascot In NBA) - #4 Adrian Dantley - #32 Karl "The Mailman" Malone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcgd Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 PDF's my friend. But it wouldn't have helped idonovan, cause he would have to supply the password to the client. Of course he could make it read only. There's no reason a client needs to alter a logo in reality. I don't know, if something is in the far corner, I wouldn't neccesarily know about it. Esspecially if you made it white. If you did a select all, but how many times do you really do that? I rarely do at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_cynic Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 True, PDF's do have that function but how many people use PDF's as their primary artboard? Utah Jazz Retired Number's#1 - Frank Layden - #7 Pete Maravich - #12 John Stockton - #14 Jeff Hornacek - #35 Darrell Griffith - #53 Mark EatonRetired Number's To Come#00 The Bear (Best Mascot In NBA) - #4 Adrian Dantley - #32 Karl "The Mailman" Malone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcgd Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 True, PDF's do have that function but how many people use PDF's as their primary artboard? you could save it as a PDF and password protect it. Not sure if you can leave it editable and have it password protected or not. Once you have open a PDF in Illustrator you have your full artboard again. I've never done it, so don't quote me on any of this. I konw all these are options, however I don't know how solid they are or if they work together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_cynic Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 But it was always my thought that PDF aren't as good to work with compared to AI files. I thought that when you saved it to PDF then some of the art or functionality would be out the window. Utah Jazz Retired Number's#1 - Frank Layden - #7 Pete Maravich - #12 John Stockton - #14 Jeff Hornacek - #35 Darrell Griffith - #53 Mark EatonRetired Number's To Come#00 The Bear (Best Mascot In NBA) - #4 Adrian Dantley - #32 Karl "The Mailman" Malone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapshot Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 The sig line is a good idea, but if the user was printing this out in another application, it may show up. Say you had an Illustrator EPS and placed in QuarkXPress to print out. After placing the art in a picture box, you hit "Scale to Fit (Proportionally)". The dimensions of the art piece used to mathematically scale it include the "hidden" sig line, no matter where in the whole artboard you placed it. So the artwork would appear a lot smaller than you wanted, but there would be an unusual amount of extra space around the artpiece in the picture box.It's still a great idea though. Extra protection. The Trojan of anti-theft artwork devices Back-to-Back Fatal Forty Champion 2015 & 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcgd Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 But it was always my thought that PDF aren't as good to work with compared to AI files. I thought that when you saved it to PDF then some of the art or functionality would be out the window. You can save a PDF to maintain illustrator editing capabilities. So it won't flatten the image. You can see this with the Bobcat's PDF on their uniforms. I opened that in illustrator and was able to get the rejected logos from them. Everything was still high quality. Its not ideal, but it would offer some password protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_cynic Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Its not ideal But like you said, it's not ideal. Utah Jazz Retired Number's#1 - Frank Layden - #7 Pete Maravich - #12 John Stockton - #14 Jeff Hornacek - #35 Darrell Griffith - #53 Mark EatonRetired Number's To Come#00 The Bear (Best Mascot In NBA) - #4 Adrian Dantley - #32 Karl "The Mailman" Malone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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