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Wow... they used Berthold City in the wordmark, used a bevel effect on the text, and employed the same formulaic layout as everyother college logo they've ever done.

Gotta love Phoenix. <_<

By the way, how can anyone say (with a straight face, anyway) that their goal is to be the "best design firm in the world" when their website looks like this. Man they're rediculous.

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they changed their name to Redhawks? That's news to me.

i almost feel sorry for Phoenix, that they've been reduced to ripping themselves off :hockeysmiley: how they manage to do so, I have no clue, but they have succeeded at that lately.

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