CaolinaJoe Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 The best renovation they can make there is to send Delgado down to Baltimore. Maybe send Wells with him also. Get rid of some of that un-needed clutter laying around. "It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of thepress. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom ofspeech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given usthe freedom to demonstrate. And it is the soldier who salutes theflag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, andwho allows the protester to burn the flag."Marine Chaplain Dennis Edward O' Brien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC97 Posted January 12, 2005 Author Share Posted January 12, 2005 The best renovation they can make there is to send Delgado down to Baltimore. Maybe send Wells with him also. Get rid of some of that un-needed clutter laying around. Trade Delgado? I don't know about that, I think there's a rule against trading players that aren't on your team. --- Chris Creamer Founder/Editor, SportsLogos.Net "The Mothership" • News • Facebook • X/Twitter • Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo soldier Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 well, this marks the end of astro turf in major league baseball. thank god. (unless rfk stadium has it. does anyone know?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanB06 Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 RFK has grass. Always has.Also, it's interesting to note that the dome is nearly gone from MLB as well, with Minnesota and Tampa the only two teams that still play in one, and Minnesota may be in a new park sooner rather than later. Sodboy13 said: As you watch more basketball, you will learn to appreciate the difference between "defense" and "couldn't find the rim with a pair of bloodhounds and a Garmin." meet the new page, not the same as the old page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machpost Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 An example of what Chris is referring to as the "ring scoreboard" might be this: This picture has me thinking about how much fun it would be to design some of the ads for these things. I assume they're fully animated. Something like this is supposedly being installed at RFK this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheateater Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 I like these ideas about SkyDome, but I'd still like to see them give some character to the playing surface if at all possible. The whole ballpark is symmetrical: 328' down the lines, 375' in the alleys, and 400' to center. Maybe if they moved a bit of fence in 10' and knocked a couple areas back another 10', it would get some much-needed character. Then they could maybe increase the height of some areas of the fence and such? You know, to make it interesting to look at and not give away immediately the idea that it opened in 1989...Don't stadiums built after 1954(year?) have to have 330-400-330 or a wall to compensate for the lack of distance? If you were to move the fences in 10 feet the Blue Jays would have to put an even higher wall than what is there now. I did say, "Then they could maybe increase the height of some areas of the fence and such?"Personally, I'd just like to see some nooks and crannies around the field. So if the fences could be moved, they might also be able to make a wall or two taller... Wagner Athletic Group11-2 Saskatoon Steeds (WAFL)-NFL-2014 Western Conference Champions / 8-5 Calgary Pronghorns (TNFF)-CFL-2014 Confederation Cup XI Champions14-6-2 Saskatoon Yellowheads (XHL)-NHL-1st, Gretzky Conference / 5-4-0 Saskatoon Czars (MLH)-AHL-T2nd, Calder Conference7-1-6 VfL Dortmund (Weltliga)-Bundesliga-3rd, League / 5-1-5 West End AFC (WFL)-EPL-T5th, League14-7 Saskatoon Sheiks (AA)-MLB-2014 Founder's Cup Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanB06 Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 Wall height is not mandated, just the distance from the plate. The rules mandate a minimum of 325 feet (99 m) from the plate down the lines, and 400 feet (121.9 m) to center field. Sodboy13 said: As you watch more basketball, you will learn to appreciate the difference between "defense" and "couldn't find the rim with a pair of bloodhounds and a Garmin." meet the new page, not the same as the old page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheateater Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 Wall height is not mandated, just the distance from the plate. The rules mandate a minimum of 325 feet (99 m) from the plate down the lines, and 400 feet (121.9 m) to center field. I would imagine Fenway is exempt from that rule? Wagner Athletic Group11-2 Saskatoon Steeds (WAFL)-NFL-2014 Western Conference Champions / 8-5 Calgary Pronghorns (TNFF)-CFL-2014 Confederation Cup XI Champions14-6-2 Saskatoon Yellowheads (XHL)-NHL-1st, Gretzky Conference / 5-4-0 Saskatoon Czars (MLH)-AHL-T2nd, Calder Conference7-1-6 VfL Dortmund (Weltliga)-Bundesliga-3rd, League / 5-1-5 West End AFC (WFL)-EPL-T5th, League14-7 Saskatoon Sheiks (AA)-MLB-2014 Founder's Cup Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapshot Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 The rule is in place for all new ballparks built in the modern era (since 1954, I think). Since Fenway was built around 1912, it is exempt. I don't know how the Red Sox were going to skirt around that rule, because all sketches of the proposed new Fenway still have the distances the same as it is now. Back-to-Back Fatal Forty Champion 2015 & 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheateater Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 OK, so if SkyDome has to keep the line and centerfield measurements the same, can the alleys be tinkered with?Here's an example of something... Wagner Athletic Group11-2 Saskatoon Steeds (WAFL)-NFL-2014 Western Conference Champions / 8-5 Calgary Pronghorns (TNFF)-CFL-2014 Confederation Cup XI Champions14-6-2 Saskatoon Yellowheads (XHL)-NHL-1st, Gretzky Conference / 5-4-0 Saskatoon Czars (MLH)-AHL-T2nd, Calder Conference7-1-6 VfL Dortmund (Weltliga)-Bundesliga-3rd, League / 5-1-5 West End AFC (WFL)-EPL-T5th, League14-7 Saskatoon Sheiks (AA)-MLB-2014 Founder's Cup Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 OK, so if SkyDome has to keep the line and centerfield measurements the same, can the alleys be tinkered with?Here's an example of something... Looks a little too random for me. But yes, perhaps some different features could make for a less generic appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerkstore Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 That line distance rule hasnt been enforced in at least 10 years. See PacBell (SBC), or Minutemaid for example... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 I don't know I kinda like the symmetry. With more and more teams now playing in these "retro" ballparks with its' quirky dimensions, it makes these type fieds more unique now. Oakland, LA, Anaheim, Atlanta, Chicago, Toronto, TampaAlso, it doesn't give a team any particular type of advantage. I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrh31584 Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 That line distance rule hasnt been enforced in at least 10 years. See PacBell (SBC), or Minutemaid for example... They usually don't mind if the wall is high enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejeff Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 I can't wait to get to Skydome this summer now.Any word on the naming rights yet...?I say Skyy Vodka Dome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 Those scoreboards aren't going to be distracting? Especially to a fielder who just let a ball go over his head and now has to turn around and look at them? They do it in many other ballparks ( i dont know blue jays players so forgive me if he dosent play outfield, or even for the jays) SMACK!!! ball hit over hinskies head, his thoughts: " oh crap it hit the wall there it is.................................. oh crap the D rays won. were in last place again.................... WAIT!!!! I NEED TO GET THE BALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 RFK has grass. Always has.Also, it's interesting to note that the dome is nearly gone from MLB as well, with Minnesota and Tampa the only two teams that still play in one, and Minnesota may be in a new park sooner rather than later. who wants to play indoors in july? On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfan331 Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 I'm not too sure if any of you are familiar with the Air Canada Centre, but they have a ring scoreboard that runs along the facing of the 2nd Level where it often flashes, messages like " D-Fence " and such chris,it has that in every pro rinkbtw,you want jumbotron 2 words Commonwealth Stadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilbert Posted January 17, 2005 Share Posted January 17, 2005 The rule is in place for all new ballparks built in the modern era (since 1954, I think). Since Fenway was built around 1912, it is exempt. I don't know how the Red Sox were going to skirt around that rule, because all sketches of the proposed new Fenway still have the distances the same as it is now. Wasnt SBC Park in San Francisco also exempt because of how close it was to Mc Covey Cove? Signature intentionally left blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanB06 Posted January 17, 2005 Share Posted January 17, 2005 The rule is in place for all new ballparks built in the modern era (since 1954, I think). Since Fenway was built around 1912, it is exempt. I don't know how the Red Sox were going to skirt around that rule, because all sketches of the proposed new Fenway still have the distances the same as it is now.1958, actually.But the funny thing is that this is not technically a rule. This "rule" is two notes to Rule 1.04, which regulates the playing field, listed below:NOTE a: Any Playing Field constructed by a club after July 1, 1958 shall provide a minimum distance of 325 feet from home base to the nearest fence, stand, or other obstruction on the right and left field foul lines, and a minimum distance of 400 feet to the center field fence.b: No existing field shall be remodeled after June 1, 1958, in such manner as to reduce the distance to home base to the foul poles and to the center field fence below the minimum specified in paragraph (a) above.Source: Official Baseball Rules, 1998 Edition, The Sporting News, publisher.That being said, teams usually ask for (and 99 percent of the time, get) permission to build parks with foul-line distances below minimum - especially if land constraints or other issues make it difficult or near impossible to build to the minimum.So, in our example, if the Blue Jays wanted to shorten the center-field distance to 120m (about 394 ft), they'd need permission from MLB to do it. But if they wanted to shorten the distance to the lines to 325 feet, no problem, since the fences are at minimum. Any closer to the plate on either side would require permission of MLB.Got it? There's a quiz later! Sodboy13 said: As you watch more basketball, you will learn to appreciate the difference between "defense" and "couldn't find the rim with a pair of bloodhounds and a Garmin." meet the new page, not the same as the old page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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