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Copper Hills with Wordmarks


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Okay I decided to get rid of the C and H just because it ended up not matching the type I made for the wordmark...and I thought it got a bit busier than it already is. I hope that the blue and red problem is fixed. I swear on my computer it is exactly perfect how I would like it to look, it frustrates me a little that it turns out so differently on your computers. :wacko:

Let me know what you think about the wordmark placement on the main logos...I had to move the legs down a bit for it to fit, I hope he doesn't look too stretched out.

I decided on the first head from the last post because the third one looked too much like the hawks and like the utes' "swoop logo"...plus it looked way forced. I think I am happy with this version.

The secondary marks I am not sold on yet...I think that, where the "C" and "T" look different enough in context of the wordmark, they kind of look the same by themselves.

Anyways let me know what you all think, and I do appreciate all the great input. It is great to have this forum for critiques.

Thanks guys :)

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First off man - what an awesome design! I guessed I missed the first time it was posted, but it looks really great - bold colors, as well as the lightning bolt-esque shapes - I love that kinda stuff.

A guess I few things I noticed:

You might be planning on using both, but I think the first logo is better than the second. The navy and gold outlining looks more symmetrical when "Copper Hills" is in the jagged font rather than "Thunderbirds".

As for the bird, I don't think the one in the wordmark looks too stretched out, I think the one sans the wordmark looks too scrunched! I guess it's a perspective thing. I'd make the birds match by stretching out the bird by itself.

As for the secondart marks, mayve they'd look better with the accompanying letter in the normal gold font. For instance, either the jagged white C interlocking with a larger version of the normal gold T, or the jagged white T interlocking with a larger version of the normal gold C. I think the first would be easier to execeute and easier on the eyes.

Finally, the bulk of the identity package is based on jagged lines supported by subtle curves. But the bird head logo is based on curves that encompass some jagged line. Maybe give the bird head logo more of an edge to it by drawing a straight gold line from border to border right where the pair of red lightning bolts ends?

Just suggestions man, I love the entire concept, choice of color, fonts, all of it :notworthy:

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Wow, beautiful job as usual. But I do notice the things that kenny rock mentioned, except i dont think the bird by itself looks too scrunched, i think it looks fine. but i do think the bird alone looks kind of like its missing something. i think the middle may look too empty. i like the color choice, but maybe a slightly brighter red would work better. but whatever i love it still. :D

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the C and T are almost indistinguishable to me. im reading it as Topper Hills. great work, just a few tweaks.

Yeah I tend to agree with you fuzz. The jaggedness on the T means that it looks just like the C. Maybe the little jagged bit that completes the curve of the C needs to be every so slightly more pronounced to make it clear?

For this reason I prefer the "Thunderbirds" logo to the "Copperhills" one.

That bird's head logo by itself is awesome and would look great on a football helmet.

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As for the bird, I don't think the one in the wordmark looks too stretched out, I think the one sans the wordmark looks too scrunched! I guess it's a perspective thing. I'd make the birds match by stretching out the bird by itself.

I would say leave both as they are. If you stretch out the one minus the wordmark, it could leave him looking skinny rather than how you would like

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ben, great stuff as usual.

The main thing i see is that the full-bird logo, while outstanding, leaves much to be desired. For Instance, the bird looks to be "twisted" into that position, it just looks un-natural to me. you have the swooping look going for it, but the head just looks odd turned to the side in that position. Maybe a front-on view of the head and face would make this even better than it is.

Also, the "C" and "T" logos should be scrapped all toghether IMO, they just look like they were placed there for the hell of it, and actually, they dont look much defferent than each other.

Dont take this in the wrong way, i think the package is FANTASTIC, but i see so much more potential in it, that you have the talent to make happen. Keep up the great work man, its a pleasure to see your designs.

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thanks everyone for your feedback. After looking at it some more I agree that the wordarks could use some work to help distinguish the letters, and i think i am going to try the bird with a head-on view. I do appreciate everyone helping with their critiques...reminds me of my crits in college :) good times

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