Question about design

[Dan12020]

Alright, I have a question for you guys who do all of the concept logos and wordmarks and such.

How do you manage to make those logos and such look so good, I personally suck at drawing whether its on paper or on the computer? So, how do you do it, just practice for a very long time or what? I don't want to post a concept that sucks. But it seems that the people who get the most attention are the ones like yourselves who make the cool things. I dunno, your probably all out there thinking who the hell is this guy complaining about all this. But I am just wondering, cause all the jerseys I post get barely any attention except for like 1 or 2. Thanks in advance.

[vicfurth]

If you don't feel comfortable, then work on something huge. Constantly tweak here, straighten there until you're happy with it. While you're working on it, pay close attention to other designers. Learn from their mistakes, be happy for them when they do good. Always be learning. You'll do better in the long run.

[ColeJ]

or you could just take every day clip-art, throw a baseball bat in there somewhere, and demand respect

[ltravisjr]

Dan, I am in kind of the same boat as you. I can do alright creating simple abstract or stylized graphics, such as a simple logo, when it comes to drawing actual figures, animals, toon characters, etc. I end up producing 2nd grade work, at least if I attempt to draw purely from imagination. I need to try researching my subjects and taking a few reference photos to help (I can draw what I see fine, I just cannot draw what I cannot).

In your case, maybe you could consider snapping some digital pics of things you would want to include in a logo and then trace them? I would think that would give you some acceptable results, and it would build your "drawing memory" while you do it. If you feel that is "cheating" you could always do the trick of dividing you reference pick into a grid and redraw it freehand from scratch, square by square...

Another thing - if you are not comfortable with the software tools, you could always draw the old fashioned way, scan it, and import it into the program for vectorizing.

Anyway, since I am also a non-expert, this may not be the most helpful advice. Therefore, I will defer to any better advice others here may provide.

LT

[Dan12020]

Thanks for the help so far, yeah, my biggest problem is from memory to paper, like I can visualize my whole concept in my head, right down to every last detail, but when it comes to drawing it, it just doesn't come out. Cause what I want to do is open a custom jersey and sports apparell place for all sports, so I have been trying to draw and do these things but it just doesn't work, so I think when I finally atttempt to open my business (I am only a sophmore in college!), I am just going to design the jerseys and pick the colors and than partner up with a design place to do logos and wordmarks.

Thanks for reading my ramble.

[Joshawaggie]

Thanks for the help so far, yeah, my biggest problem is from memory to paper, like I can visualize my whole concept in my head, right down to every last detail, but when it comes to drawing it, it just doesn't come out.

thats how I am too, I have so many ideas, they just dont escape my head.