Discrim Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 Canseco sez Nomah juiced upwell, he did say somebody you wouldn't expect. I was then inclined to expect Rafael Belliard, he of the one homer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronChefShark Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 :censored: Jose MistakoEven if a lot of the stuff he says in his book are true, it doesnt change the fact that he's a rat, and nobody likes a rat.He's just trying to incrimiate everyone else that had a better career then he did. He is bitter and jealous of guys like Rafael Palmiero, Barry Bonds, and ESPECIALLY his former teammate Mark McGwire.Jose, just because you're a lowlife :censored: up doesnt mean you have to use the steroid scandal to your benefit so you can make a cheap buck by scavenging whatever dirt thats allready been dug up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JQK Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 And as an exterminator, you don't like rats....I think Bonds and Giambi might have a rat problem they will call you to take care of...i dunno, i can't think of any more quips and/or puns right now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronChefShark Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 And as an exterminator, you don't like rats.... at least you agree with me that Jose is rat, Johnny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JQK Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 I'm from jersey man. There is one thing you don't do, for any reason, and that's rat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcgd Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 I could be proven wrong, but everyone around Mark McGwire (save Jose) has completely denied he's ever taken steroids. This is a guy that stopped using andro only because of the effect he thought he'd have on future ball players. He hit 49 homeruns as a rookie, he didn't beef up overnight. Yes, he was a big man. But he was also one of the most flexible baseball players of his day. Definatly not a sign of steroids.Unfortunatly, Mark is not the kind of guy that will come out to defend his name. Not because he's guilty, because he truely does not like the limelight. That's why he loved his days in St. Louis so much. He could play ball in a smaller city without all the limelight. I know this seems crazy, this guy was part of one of the greatest stories baseball's ever told, but he hated the attention. He didn't retire cause he was injured, he retired because he was tired of the hype and the fame. His injuries helped him speed up the process. He's a very private person, and I'm doubting we'll see much of a statement out of him.Jose was a joke during his playing days, and now he's a joke after his playing days.A better book would have been his criminal record. This guy got pulled over doing 130 or so on a florida interstate. His excuse; He was testing rocket fuel in his car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 Jose Canseco will never be welcomed in another clubhouse again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC97 Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 Jose Canseco will never be welcomed in another clubhouse again Wow, sounds like Ball Four all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OB33 Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 Ahh Jose Canseco, the man who headed a homer, good times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclopsis Joe Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 I was just thinking: "So, we're gonna believe everything Conseco says now?"Good to see I was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacker12 Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 Jose Canseco will never be welcomed in another clubhouse again Wow, sounds like Ball Four all over again. Yeah, except in his book, Bouton actually told the truth. (Whoops!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 Bouton told things that are now tame comparitivly speaking, and they were not illegal like the steroids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC97 Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 Jose Canseco will never be welcomed in another clubhouse again Wow, sounds like Ball Four all over again. Yeah, except in his book, Bouton actually told the truth. (Whoops!!!) Opinion != FactAt the time Bouton was demonized for his book, pitchers threw at his head, Rose swore at him from the opposing dugout.How do you know Canseco's book is any different from this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmorss9 Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 Wow, sounds like Ball Four all over again. Yeah, except Ball Four is a great book. I'll be amazed if Canseco's book isnt printed in crayon, with the occasional backwards letter thrown in for good measure. I'm sorry, but Nomar doesn't even look close to big enough to have shot up. Please correct me if I'm wrong, as I have NO experience with steroids other than watching wrestling in the 80's, but don't guys just get huge on steroids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 I expect Canseco's book to be in the New York Times bestseller's list ...... in the Fiction category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JQK Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 Wow, sounds like Ball Four all over again. Yeah, except Ball Four is a great book. I'll be amazed if Canseco's book isnt printed in crayon, with the occasional backwards letter thrown in for good measure. I'm sorry, but Nomar doesn't even look close to big enough to have shot up. Please correct me if I'm wrong, as I have NO experience with steroids other than watching wrestling in the 80's, but don't guys just get huge on steroids? not nessecarily.It depends on how much you take, and what kinds you take.Usuakky, if someone's body is cut, beyond what a normal cut body looks like, it's usually a clue to steroid use. Most people who use steroids use it to get big, but there are some who use it almost as a workout supplement, to help them tweak their performance, to maybe get a little more bat speed, or a little quicker jump on the ball..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC97 Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 Wow, sounds like Ball Four all over again. Yeah, except Ball Four is a great book. I'll be amazed if Canseco's book isnt printed in crayon, with the occasional backwards letter thrown in for good measure. So many people judging the book before reading it -- I'll never figure out society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JQK Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 Wow, sounds like Ball Four all over again. Yeah, except Ball Four is a great book. I'll be amazed if Canseco's book isnt printed in crayon, with the occasional backwards letter thrown in for good measure. So many people judging the book before reading it -- I'll never figure out society. it's the source, Chris. Jose has NO credibility with anyone. He could tell everyone the sky was blue, and most wouldn't believe him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC97 Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 Wow, sounds like Ball Four all over again. Yeah, except Ball Four is a great book. I'll be amazed if Canseco's book isnt printed in crayon, with the occasional backwards letter thrown in for good measure. So many people judging the book before reading it -- I'll never figure out society. it's the source, Chris. Jose has NO credibility with anyone. He could tell everyone the sky was blue, and most wouldn't believe him. True I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 Lets face it Jose Canseco is just a bitter man he got black baleld from the game 38 homers less then 500 and no Hall of Fame on the horizion so now he needs money so he is stabbing his freinds in the back.Weather hsi book is true or not I do not know but unless the polayers fail a drug test or confess to using it they deserve the benefit of a doubt, and what Jose is doing is just cheap. I hope he is satisifed becuase if he ever wanted to get back into the game that chance is gone he has brunt every single bridge he has known, sure it may be true what he is saying but I dont think he should trusted at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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