newsenterprise Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Looks like the Carolina Sharks of the AIFL (the same league that Shiznit did the Canton Legends logo for) are trying to get by using clipart.The clipart logo (from Jamnart.com) is on the left. The team's current logo is on the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_cynic Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Wow! Is this the first time anything like this has been spotted? Utah Jazz Retired Number's#1 - Frank Layden - #7 Pete Maravich - #12 John Stockton - #14 Jeff Hornacek - #35 Darrell Griffith - #53 Mark EatonRetired Number's To Come#00 The Bear (Best Mascot In NBA) - #4 Adrian Dantley - #32 Karl "The Mailman" Malone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randyc Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 that's just sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schtee Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 wow, if that's true then it is a sad joke, especially in light of arena football's recently successful attempt to go mainstream, higher attendance, the NBC deal.There are some good logos in the league, I like the LA Avengers, Las Vegas Gladiators, and NY Dragons. @aghease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsenterprise Posted February 28, 2005 Author Share Posted February 28, 2005 schtee,Allow me a clarification. The Carolina Sharks are members of the Atlantic Indoor Football League (AIFL), a first-year organization. Although they are an arena football team, they ARE NOT associated with the Arena Football League (AFL) or AF2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stampman Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 On the other hand there are worse clip art sharks they could have used... Comic Sans walks into a bar, and the bartender says, "Sorry, we don't serve your type here." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapshot Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 That's not clipart...it's totally modified! You don't see the gradient? Back-to-Back Fatal Forty Champion 2015 & 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollux Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 That's not clipart...it's totally modified! You don't see the gradient? No way it's the same! It's a concept!!! They thought about adding the wordmark under the clipart, so this is clearly a CONCEPT! Four times IHL Nielson Cup Champions - Montréal Shamrocks (2008-2009 // 2009-2010 // 2012-2013 // 2014-2015) Five times TNFF Confederation Cup Champions - Yellowknife Eagles (2009 CC VI // 2010 CC VII // 2015 CC XII // 2017 CC XIV // 2018 CC XV) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flynnagain Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 and to think i actually told this guy that this logo was one of his better ones.....what a joke.....it is no wonder a certain web designers offers unique logo designs within a package deal....if the designer can't design or draw for that matter, he A) resorts to clip art or milks out info from this forum to revamp his crap and or C) gives up and gets someone to redesign it for a keychain and a bag of nuts (in a capitalist system, that the artist problem)....and this is OK except but please don't call yourself a logo designer...I have always tried to be positive but i cannot in this case..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneDavid Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Wow! Is this the first time anything like this has been spotted?Check out P.I.L.L.'s posts... he's big on using clipart for logos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewharrington Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Just realized, but check out this . . . I still don't have a website, but I have a dribbble now! http://dribbble.com/andyharry [The postings on this site are my own and do not necessarily represent the position, strategy or opinions of adidas and/or its brands.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewharrington Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 and the original.This job is from the same guy. I still don't have a website, but I have a dribbble now! http://dribbble.com/andyharry [The postings on this site are my own and do not necessarily represent the position, strategy or opinions of adidas and/or its brands.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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newsenterprise Posted February 28, 2005 Author Share Posted February 28, 2005 Hmmm ... after I posted this, the link to the Carolina Sharks' logo on the AIFL site "magically changed" -- TWICE. Wonder why? No matter, found a new one to prove my point.I'm not a logo designer (and have never claimed to be one), but I would assume one of the rules of professional logos is NO CLIP ART.I knew had seen that same shark somewhere when the local semi-pro football team I cover had used clipart for their first logo (before paynomind's group saved the day). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 While I'm no designer by any means and I won't jump on any bandwagons to trash using clip art if its the specific wish of a client, I think that, if I were a designer, I'd run like hell from any client who was insistent on using clip art as part of their identity, even if it meant losing their business. That's not any indictment on anyone's part, just my opinion.Sadly this is just another example of why I think the AIFL won't last long. The league hasn't yet played a game and, while thanks to eViv it has a professional presence, between this and the Raleigh team playing all road games in 2005 when a suitable (if not more affordable) arena is readily available to them, it already is showing itself to be something less than a completely professional organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsenterprise Posted March 1, 2005 Author Share Posted March 1, 2005 I'm not trashing evividsolutions' web designs or efforts, because as you can easily tell (see the Canton Legends' Web site), he's trying to help the fledgling AIFL. And the Rebels logo was good considering what he had to work with.But with the chance to start a brand new identity, it seems to me you would stay away from clip art. Clip art is for non-profit groups, semi-pro, high schools, youth teams, amateur teams, etc... not for someone trying to come off as "professional"."When the client asks you to specifically to use an image for a design you use it." -- I don't get this. If someone hands you the logos for the Boston Celtics, the Oakland Raiders or the New York Yankees, are you going to create something for your client that could very well get you into copyright/trademark trouble with those three teams? What designer in their right mind would do this (except for the one trying to make a quick buck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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slapshot Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 I thought the Freeze logo was done by GMS. Back-to-Back Fatal Forty Champion 2015 & 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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