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So is this the inevitable health problems that Ragers like BBonds run into? Or some clever little under the radar punishment like Jordans first "retirement"?

Barry, if you leave quietly, without challenging Aaron, we'll let you keep third all time.

Otherwise.......

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you guys are all rediculous. how the hell can you truely call yourselves baseball fans. Like you Sterling84, Go away quietly and we will let you keep third. what the hell are you gonna take away from Bonds? if anyone is watching PTI right now and saw Bonds interview you would see, Bonds for the first time in his career looks truely hurt. To tell you the truth if Bonds did retire now i wouldnt blame him. not because of the whole steriods bullplop, but because this thing is getting way out of hand and who the hell else would take as much as he has. you all need to remember that everyone is innocent untill proven guilty and untill the day he tests positive ill stand behind him 100% no matter how much i get burned. Bonds isnt a liked guy and people want to see him fail wether he did it or not, because he dosent play up to all of this media crap. my question is, where is the fire at Giambi, and Sosa, and Palmiero and all the others. this is more of a situation i feel of people trying to hurt Bonds rather than really looking at the important issues. and ill be the first to admit that im bias in Bonds favor so take this as you will, and im sorry for blowing my top, but this just makes me sick.

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I understand where you are coming from bucsfan, but Barry has admitted under oath that he used steriods. Granted, he says he was unaware they were steriods, but he still said you used substances now identified as steriods.

However, like I said, I understand where you are coming from because I feel the same way about Mark McGwire. I believe Mark, and he has denied using steroids. I think the testimony last week was a lawyers strategy gone bad, not a coverup of his usuage.

If you see inconsistancies there and wanna call me out on being a homer, all I can say is your probably right. (Note: Admission to being a homer is not admission to being wrong.)

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i agree with you STL FANATIC, but one thing that i dont get is why is Bonds getting so much heat when a giy like Jason Giambi is flying right under the radar. thats what just baffles me

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i agree with you STL FANATIC, but one thing that i dont get is why is Bonds getting so much heat when a giy like Jason Giambi is flying right under the radar. thats what just baffles me

I think it's because he keeps doing dumb stunts like today's. I mean, as long as he keeps talking to the media, they're gonna talk to him.

The best thing he could do right now is shut up.

(That last statement is gonna come back to haunt me)

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i agree with you STL FANATIC, but one thing that i dont get is why is Bonds getting so much heat when a giy like Jason Giambi is flying right under the radar. thats what just baffles me

Whether right or wrong...

Giambi has done more to admit and express sorrow.

Giambi has a better relationship with the media than Bonds has ever had.

Giambi, while putting up big stats, has not broken/is not chasing historic records.

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you guys are all rediculous. how the hell can you truely call yourselves baseball fans. Like you Sterling84, Go away quietly and we will let you keep third.

whoa. :cry:

Listen. For one.....I'm not a baseball fan. at all anymore. My fandom died somewhere around 1992 when I no longer played strikeout in the backyard and the Brewers kicked Molly to the curb.

Secondly, I was merely speculating that there could be some cloak and dagger negotiations going on. I have no stake in this, don't care one way or another......but I sure can see it happening.

Someone sends a message to him saying, "look, we can't have you going after the record. It makes us look bad. Retire now, admit nothing, and you'll enter the Hall #3 all-time.... pending you legal results."

Just theorizing.

Now, as for why people beat on Bonds........ummm, it's cause he's a jerk. He asks for it. Poor baby. At least he's an awesome player. People rip on Ryan Leaf mercilessly and he can't even rest on his laurels and statistics.

And, to further clear up that I am not a "hater". I don't think roids should be illegal. The way I figure it......they are a calculable risk that people take to enhance their careers. Just like breast implants. Only breast implants MAY hurt you and roids definitely WILL hurt you. If they take roids, they will rule the field and eventually be crippled or dead. Thats their choice, not mine. IF there were a pill or cream to make people smarter or an investing genius or a handsome Hollywood superstar......they would absolutely take it. ANd that would be on them. If someone is dumb enough to risk serious health concerns or death to hit a few homers.........best of luck. It's not like you'll be able to hide it later.

I thought we as a nation learned this lesson already with Gastineau and Alzado. Guess not.

And STL, yeah........big Mac TOTALLY did them. Don't feel too bad. Heroes let us down every day. I was heartbroken when Hulk Hogan testified he did roids. But they are just men. Fallable, human, weak people like all of us.

As for Giambi or anyone else getting less heat. Ummm, maybe like 20% less. Bonds feels attacked cause he's in his own world.....in a perpetual state of feeling slighted. He's gotta get over that on his own......don't help him out by justifying it. Richest most talented guy you'd ever meet and he's feeling sorry for himself.......whaaa, leave me alone.

I GUARANTEE you he feels NO similar allegiance to you. Don't waste your time. He doesn't care about how hard school is for you or how little you like your career or how you mom is feeling or whether or not you feel appreciated.

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<begin violent rant>

This is absolute bull.

Listen, you watch that interview again. Watch how he says "make sure you get my son in that shot so you can see how much you've hurt my family." Absolute phony.

You tell me Bonds having his surgery on the day of the Congressional Hearing wasn't just so convenient.

Tell me WHY, out of all the players in the league to call, did the Congress NOT call Bonds to testify. Because he would have played the race card all over the place. "Oh, I'm just a victimized black man. Poor, poor me."

Tell me that it isn't just so convenient that Bonds is now claiming his knee is hurt and he might take off the season because "he's tired."

BULL. CRAP.

He's not tired. He's running scared.

After fighting the media for so long, why, out of the clear blue, for no reason, does he just up and quit? And say that he's gonna take the year off? Maybe so they can't test him? Maybe so he can just escape the whole steroids scandal because he knows he could be busted. Because he doesn't want to be proved as a liar. As a cheater. As a piece of crap who ran his mouth at the media about coming down on him for reasons that EVERYONE knows he is guilty of.

Bonds is on it. EVERYONE knows this but no one wants to be the one to say it. You look at his rookie picture from 1987 and look at him now. Look at the man's head. NO ONE gains that much mass in that span of time without some sort of enhancement.

I will go on the record and tell you, if you haven't already gathered, I absolutely hate Barry Bonds. I will throw a damn parade the day that he's finally proven to be a juicer. I hope he never touches that damn home run record because he doesn't deserve it. Everything about him makes me sick to my stomach. He's a phony, and he's an arrogant, racist ass. He deserves to be exposed and embarrased in public. He's a piece of crap and I hope his career is over.

</end violent rant>

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Looking at Bonds today I think it's time he come clean. IF he leaves now on those crutches it looks like he is running. If he continues to say he didn't use steroids the pressure will only build. HOwever if he came clean appologized and tried to play clean I think fans will be more apt to forgive him. You know GIant fans will probally support him no matter what and if he came clean in a sincere way he way win over some critics.

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hey guys, my bad for freaking out. i just accually kinda felt for Bonds today. he really looked defeated. and yes i am a big Giants fan so im a little Biased. and Sterling84, no hard feelings man. just letting off steam and you just happened to be right there. so again, my bad

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This is real easy guys. Bonds is a dick. He is a world-class, in and out, every day jerk. If he tests clean tomorrow, hes still a jerk. If they find a way to scoop spit out of the dirt at Pac Bell, and test him in the past for every day he has swung a bat, and they are all negative for steriods, he is still a jerk.

Thats all it is. Being a jerk comes back to get you eventually. Bonds is just getting his right now. I hope he quits. Pansy.

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Bonds is on it. EVERYONE knows this but no one wants to be the one to say it. You look at his rookie picture from 1987 and look at him now. Look at the man's head. NO ONE gains that much mass in that span of time without some sort of enhancement.

ok now this isnt true. im into body building and when i look at pictures of me from just three years ago and now, im astonished at the size and muscle mass ive gained. it has been 18 years since his rookie year and about 10 since he was skinny. so if weight training is done the gight way, you can put on an unbelieveable amount of muscle mass in a relatively short amount of time with no steriods let alone supplemental enhancements

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Bonds is just a big hemorrhoid in baseball right now. All the problems he bitches about were created by his attitude, not the other way around. We almost got to see the human side of Bonds when his father passed away, but it wasn't long after he returned to the lineup that his true surly self came back as well.

Bonds is stuck with this mentality that everyone who doesn;t like him is a racist. No, Barry, it's because you're an :censored:, not because you're black. People like Ken Griffey, Jr. They liked Willie Mays. They don't like you.

Bonds takes steroids. Period. Unless he developed some form of giantism (no pun) that made his head grow twelve hat sizes. Steroids didn't help him get base hits, but it sure as hell put many of those hits into McCovey Cove.

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Juiced or not, Barry Bonds is a schmuck...and nothing can change that fact.

And press conferences that turn into "woe is me, I'm being singled out b/c of (fill in the blank)" pity parties only help reinforce my earlier conclusion....

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