DEAD! Posted July 11, 2003 Share Posted July 11, 2003 SharkHatesBrownPosted on July 10 2003,20:24issue 1: DC should have baseball. baseball is considered the "national pastime" and the fact that the capital of this nation has no team representing them in the national pastime is indeed shameful. Ottawa finally got the NHL eleven years ago after a long tenure without, so why cant DC have the MLB? of course, assuring a franchise's long term sucess in DC would require solid corporate sponsors, a new ballpark, and of course, a cometitive product.Yes Ottawa has the NHL, but they were dangerously close to losing it! I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budbowl77 Posted July 11, 2003 Share Posted July 11, 2003 If the Expos move to Washington DC, does this mean that baseball will realign? I mean Milwaukee was originally a National League city untill the Braves moved and when the Brewers started it became an AL, now its a NL. Washington has always been an American League city, it even has a stadium a team can move right into temporarily until a new one is built so i think logically DC is the place to be for the Expos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC97 Posted July 11, 2003 Share Posted July 11, 2003 And both DC moves weren't because of no fan support, it was because of dumb fu*king owners.Sounds familiar doesn't it? --- Chris Creamer Founder/Editor, SportsLogos.Net "The Mothership" • News • Facebook • X/Twitter • Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronChefShark Posted July 11, 2003 Share Posted July 11, 2003 Washington has always been an American League city, it even has a stadium a team can move right into temporarily until a new one is built so i think logically DC is the place to be for the Expos.well seeing as how all the other two-team markets have a team representing each league (Giants-A's, Dodgers-Angels, Cubs-White Sox, Mets-Yankees) it would make sense for the beltway (Washington-Baltimore) to have a team representing each league. since baltimore has the AL team, why not DC having the NL team? all the more reason to move the expos there and keep them in the same league and same division US state flag concepts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc51design Posted July 11, 2003 Share Posted July 11, 2003 Oh Canada, will you lose all your sports franchises. Winnipeg is gone, Grizzlies are past, Ottawa is on the edge, and now Montreal. Keep the team in Motreal and build a new stadium. If Expos go to DC, Orioles will be the next team to reloceate since they will lose fan base. Watch out Blue Jays, Raptors, Canucks, Oilers, and even Canadiens, you might be next to go south lockerroom51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintsfan Posted July 11, 2003 Share Posted July 11, 2003 Well they do play in the NATIONAL hockey league, NATIONAL basketball association etc. That is not to say it isn't a pity that teams move away from a loyal (if smallish sometimes) fanbase. But Canada surely doesnt have a right to teams in USA leagues. Although I guess hockey is a whole other matter!! 2011/12 WFL Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyWrench32 Posted July 11, 2003 Share Posted July 11, 2003 Uh, do you guys realize that the NHL started out with the Montréal Canadiens, Montréal Wanderers, Ottawa Senators and Toronto Arenas? "National" referred to Canada.As for the Expos, I don't think they should move. It's really sad to see what has happened to that club. I think they could be saved if they somehow got a new ballpark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintsfan Posted July 11, 2003 Share Posted July 11, 2003 Yeah I am sorry for the confusion I did mean to point out that NHL teams moving out of Canada is a whole other, very sad and VERY regretable thing! Its terrible when say the Ottawa Senators face ridiculous pressure to move into a large US market. BBBOOOOOOOO to the NHL for that!The movement of Canadian teams in the NBA and NHL is slightly different, as neither league has a tradition of Canadian teams, however if the leagues wanted teams i Canada, as I auume they both did, bearing in mind the nature of the expansions that took place to make it happen, I am sure they could do more to help the teams stay in Canada! 2011/12 WFL Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 11, 2003 Share Posted July 11, 2003 Short history lesson: the NBA considers it's first game ever as having been between the Toronto Huskies and New York Knickerbockers.There's a Canadian history in the NBA, no doubt.Re: the Montreal issueSHB, I think we'll have to agree to disagree. It's all a question of whether the owners and MLB want baseball to work in Montreal (and I really don't think they've tried all that hard). I know building a new downtown stadium can be expensive and difficult, but come on. It's not like it's impossible. I know there's been studies done on how building a new stadium really has very little long term impact on the fan turnout, but this is more like going from no stadium to nice stadium then old stadium to new stadium.The Canadian dollar has fought it's way back to now being approx 75 cents US. Hopefully this'll continue, as it would make pro sports in Canada a much more viable option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted July 11, 2003 Share Posted July 11, 2003 SyPhi Posted on July 11 2003,11:45--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Short history lesson: the NBA considers it's first game ever as having been between the Toronto Huskies and New York Knickerbockers.There's a Canadian history in the NBA, no doubt.Re: the Montreal issueSHB, I think we'll have to agree to disagree. It's all a question of whether the owners and MLB want baseball to work in Montreal (and I really don't think they've tried all that hard). I know building a new downtown stadium can be expensive and difficult, but come on. It's not like it's impossible. I know there's been studies done on how building a new stadium really has very little long term impact on the fan turnout, but this is more like going from no stadium to nice stadium then old stadium to new stadium.The Canadian dollar has fought it's way back to now being approx 75 cents US. Hopefully this'll continue, as it would make pro sports in Canada a much more viable option.A higher Canadian Dollar will help the sports teams, at the same time, if the Canadian dollar continues to rise to say 05-05 cents and holds for a long time, then you will also see people of all sorts of professions stay in Canada and slow the "Brain Drain". On the flip side, some manufaturing companies will be hurt by the higher Canadian Dollar because of their dependency on exporting their products to the US. I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amare32 Posted July 11, 2003 Share Posted July 11, 2003 An article on DC's reaction to Oriole Imperialism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznit1083 Posted July 11, 2003 Share Posted July 11, 2003 The link's not working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted July 11, 2003 Share Posted July 11, 2003 The Expos have no one in that stadium because the product sucks, and it's sucked for so long, they don't care. They say it's olympic Stadium, and i'm sure it plays a part, but it is not the main reason.I have to disagree the Epos actaully have a decent team, with a shot at teh Wild Card. So not even a good tema would bring the fans back in Montreal. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M59 Posted July 12, 2003 Share Posted July 12, 2003 A couple of things:"Northern Virginia" can be defined as consisting of Arlington, Fairfax, Prince William and Fauquier Counties, as well as the cities of Alexandria, Falls Church and Fairfax. It's a demographic and economic goldmine, with more people and a much better government situation than DC.The two hottest stadium sites are in Arlington, just across the river from DC, with views of the monuments.Baltimore and Washington each HAVE beltways, but are NOT connected by one...the main arteries for travel are I-95 and the Baltimore-Washington Parkway.AND NONE OF THIS MATTERS, BECAUSE IF YOU THINK BUMBLIN' BUD SELIG AND HIS TRAVELLING BAND OF BUFFOONS ARE GOING TO LET THE EXPOS MOVE, I HAVE SOME OCEANFRONT PROPERTY IN UTAH TO SELL YA.The Expos will be contracted in 2006 after roaming aimlessly through the land for the next three seasons. Bet on it. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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