randyc Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Could someone give me a quick breakdown on adding an outline to logos in CS4, such as the logos off this site? I just can't seem to figure it out.I don't have CS4, but I wouldn't think it's different from CS3.....Click on whatever object you want outlined, then go up to Object>Path>Offset Path. Then, type in a size. Or, you could always just add a stroke in the colors palette, and then go to Object>Expand.Hopefully that helps.Okay, but say for example I wanted to outline the Colorado Avalanche primary logo from the site, but when I copy it into Illustrator its still a .gif file, so when I select it it doesn't select the image itself but rather the dimensions like this. What I'm trying to do is just added a white outline to the logo itself so for concepts its more correct rather than on the Avalanche home jersey the burgundy isn't touching the logo but there's a white outline separating the logo and the burgundy. Does that make any sense?Hopefully I'm getting this right....From what I've gathered, the logo you're using isn't vector, meaning it's a gif/jpeg/png rather than a eps or ai....is that right? If you need a vector file, I think I have it somewhere, then you can do the offset path thing I listed above.Yeah it's still the original .gif from the website. Is there anyway to convert logos from the site into .ai format? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shumway Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Could someone give me a quick breakdown on adding an outline to logos in CS4, such as the logos off this site? I just can't seem to figure it out.I don't have CS4, but I wouldn't think it's different from CS3.....Click on whatever object you want outlined, then go up to Object>Path>Offset Path. Then, type in a size. Or, you could always just add a stroke in the colors palette, and then go to Object>Expand.Hopefully that helps.Okay, but say for example I wanted to outline the Colorado Avalanche primary logo from the site, but when I copy it into Illustrator its still a .gif file, so when I select it it doesn't select the image itself but rather the dimensions like this. What I'm trying to do is just added a white outline to the logo itself so for concepts its more correct rather than on the Avalanche home jersey the burgundy isn't touching the logo but there's a white outline separating the logo and the burgundy. Does that make any sense?Hopefully I'm getting this right....From what I've gathered, the logo you're using isn't vector, meaning it's a gif/jpeg/png rather than a eps or ai....is that right? If you need a vector file, I think I have it somewhere, then you can do the offset path thing I listed above.Yeah it's still the original .gif from the website. Is there anyway to convert logos from the site into .ai format?Livetrace should work, although I'm not a fan of it. Click on the image, then go to Object>LiveTrace>TracingOptions. Change it to color, rather than Black & White, and then click "Make". Then go to Object>LivePaint>Make. It's not 100% perfect, but it's decent. Then, use the direct select tool(hollow arrow) and delete the white background. Or, rather than LiveTrace, you could trace it by hand with the pen tool. I know it takes longer, but it'll be more accurate if you take your time doing it. Whichever way you choose, then do the offset path that I mentioned earlier.Hopefully this'll help you out. And hopefully the menus are the same on CS4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randyc Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 A problem I keep running into is when I select to outline it, everything gets outlined, rather than just the outer edges of the logo, which is what I want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shumway Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 A problem I keep running into is when I select to outline it, everything gets outlined, rather than just the outer edges of the logo, which is what I want.Oh, whoops, I forgot to mention about that. Direct select only the objects that are the outermost parts of the logo. I think in the Avalanche's case, it's just the blue part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randyc Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Thanks for all the help Shumway, but I still keep running into walls here. Now when I go to trace the logo again, it just disappears. And earlier when it wasn't disappearing, when I selected the blue part, it still outlined the snow inside of the logo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shumway Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Thanks for all the help Shumway, but I still keep running into walls here. Now when I go to trace the logo again, it just disappears. And earlier when it wasn't disappearing, when I selected the blue part, it still outlined the snow inside of the logo.Try sending the outline to the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randyc Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Ok I'm back to the part where I converted the logo to LivePaint. Now when I select the blue, because the blue is part of the whole logo, it selects all of the blue. How do you just select the outer edges of the logo?EDIT - I think I got it now. Thanks a bunch Shumway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsM29 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 You know you can find versions of most sports logos vectorized already online so that you dont have to convert them yourself, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chestnutz Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Stupid question, but on Illustrator CS1, for some reason I'm not able to resize/rotate an object. It just comes up with all the solid blue points, with no surrounding box to edit the size, etc. I realize I can use the free transform tool, but that'd be a pain. It showed the resize box always before, but just recently stopped. How can I fix it? Quote erikas | go birds | dribbble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottysprings Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Go to view>show bounding box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chestnutz Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Thank you scotty. Always helpin me Quote erikas | go birds | dribbble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottysprings Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Glad I could help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordie_delini Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 just an fyi from a previous post, CS4 is slightly different from CS3 or CS2 in the way it handles some functionality and in the menus, but for the most part is not a big departure from the previous versions. Main differences are highlighted at Adobe's website. The biggest departure for me has always been in Photoshop. They change around every time and I can never figure out how to do what I want from CS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tBBP Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Stupid question, but on Illustrator CS1, for some reason I'm not able to resize/rotate an object. It just comes up with all the solid blue points, with no surrounding box to edit the size, etc. I realize I can use the free transform tool, but that'd be a pain. It showed the resize box always before, but just recently stopped. How can I fix it?That mess happened to you too? Good to see I ain't the only one who that done happened to. (Look up a couple posts above yours and you'll my my similar episode.) Quote *Disclaimer: I am not an authoritative expert on stuff...I just do a lot of reading and research and keep in close connect with a bunch of people who are authoritative experts on stuff. || dribbble || Behance || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33hooligan Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 I have an object outlined with a stroke, when I scale the object down the stroke weight wont scale down with it . I know there must be a setting that I can set to do this automatically, because it used to do it, but I can't remember where it is. Any help would be appreciated.33H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chestnutz Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Been wondering that same thing hooligan. I know you can use Offset Path and the stroke stays the same in proportion to the logo resizing (as opposed to just using a regular stroke), but I'd love to know the same thing. Quote erikas | go birds | dribbble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33hooligan Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 I found it in EDIT>PREFERENCES>GENERAL and then you Check the box, SCALE,STROKES & EFFECTS. It will keep your stroke weight to scale when you resize your object. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swe3t Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Sorry to go off topic, and I dont know if this has been discussed.. I don't have time to read 28 pages lol. But if I want to design logos is Illustrator really important or will I be fine with photoshop cs3? This is something I've been wanting to know for a long time. Help!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33hooligan Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 I think Illlustrator is better because it is vecter based and can be manipulated easier than Photoshop. I may be wrong because I am not as skilled in Photoshop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEANS Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 illustrator is your tool for creating logos, the vector format is much more useful for all the applications a logo may be used in. Look at all the sports logos on this site, they are all for the most part vector. Quote https://www.andrewsterlachini.com/ or http://dribbble.com/MEANS1974 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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