NASCAR vs. the NHL

[NJTank]

NASCAR s huge now it gets some of the highest TV raitings week in week out higher then MLB on Fox.

[Pat]

What the hell are you guys talking about?

Nascar is probably the second biggest sport right now, behind the NFL. The NHL is way, way down there. Dont bring preference into this. The reason NASCAR isnt sometimes considered a big4 sport is because their is a debate over if it is a sport.

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NHL

AFL

[DEAD!]

And it looks like Toyota will join NASCAR very soon. Heaven help us. A bunch of GD rice-burners in the All-American sport of NASCAR. Who's next, VW, Audi, Citroen? Makes you wonder who won the war.

And I hate road course racing. Wine and cheese Euro racing, that's what it is. Now THAT'S BORING! Give me Daytona or Bristol or Charlotte anytime.

First of all, as a person of Asian descent I resent the term "GD rice-burners"

Secondly, how is Toyota getting into NASCAR a bad thing for you? Wouldn't you love to see an all-American car like Ford bump one of those Toyota cars out of the race track?

[Jigga]

You cannot be serious...GD rice burners? This is not the 1950s, Beav!

[OMMF]

And it looks like Toyota will join NASCAR very soon. Heaven help us. A bunch of GD rice-burners in the All-American sport of NASCAR. Who's next, VW, Audi, Citroen? Makes you wonder who won the war.

And I hate road course racing. Wine and cheese Euro racing, that's what it is. Now THAT'S BORING!  Give me Daytona or Bristol or Charlotte anytime.

First of all, as a person of Asian descent I resent the term "GD rice-burners"

Secondly, how is Toyota getting into NASCAR a bad thing for you? Wouldn't you love to see an all-American car like Ford bump one of those Toyota cars out of the race track?

Whoa!

Amare32 is white and now you're Asian?

I don't even know who I am anymore.

Also, I'm pretty sure the country where Citroens are made has been on the Allied side each time.

[JPBlueHen]

Here's my ranking for sports:

1. NFL (without question)

2. Major League Baseball (people are watching games in record numbers, with no sign of slowing down)

3. NCAA Football (Hundreds of schools get hundreds of thousands of people to games every week, which altogether is far greater than any NASCAR race. Plus, merchandise for the big schools sells buy the millions)

4. NCAA Men's Basketball (March Madness is the most watched sports tournament in the country, and even non-sports people will watch the games with excitement as they watch their brackets.)

5. NBA (the quick end to a possible lockout kept this league from going further down in the rankings)

6. NASCAR (Nextel Cup Series of course)

7. NHL

As far as NASCAR is concerned, I never understood why it became so popular as I quickly flip the channel whenever it comes on. However, this venue is on the rise but i don't believe it will ever make the top 4.

For the NHL, I am happy to finally see it back and I think the upcoming season will be a sign of positive things to come for this sport. I don't think it will ever reach the top 4 but if the fans come back and ESPN gets their acts together and give them a television contract, this league will be on the rise and could surpass the NBA within the next decade.

[DEAD!]

Whoa!

Amare32 is white and now you're Asian?

I don't even know who I am anymore.

You're an alien.....

[OMMF]

Whoa!

Amare32 is white and now you're Asian?

I don't even know who I am anymore. 

You're an alien.....

Nuh uh. I have a green card to prove it.

[DEAD!]

Whoa!

Amare32 is white and now you're Asian?

I don't even know who I am anymore. 

You're an alien.....

Nuh uh. I have a green card to prove it.

I don't know. From what I know, this does not qualify you as a legal immigrant.....

[OMMF]

Whoa!

Amare32 is white and now you're Asian?

I don't even know who I am anymore. 

You're an alien.....

Nuh uh. I have a green card to prove it.

I don't know. From what I know this does not qualifiy you as a legal immigrant.....

Depends on who's in office.

[Redlands, CA]

Reason why Nascar is so popular is because of the # of races are so much less than the # of games in MLB, NBA, and NHL. I don't know anyone can watch someone drive around a track fast but they probably question why we watch poker.

If Nascar had 80 or 150 races plus playoffs it would hurt the sport greatly. It's easy sport to be educated in much like football. Only difference besides the rules and all that is football is popular with people since high school all the way up to NFL. Nascar isn't in college or high school. Nascar has a lot of hardcore fans that follow these drivers around and praise them like kings. That is why Nascar has survived for so long and now 5th major sport maybe even 6th behind college sports.

We are all forgetting about Xtreme sports which has been taking off in popularity for a few years. I think the NHL is back and will establish as the 4th major sport in this country. It's back...............

[JPBlueHen]

The one reason why the NFL, MLB, and NBA are bigger right now than NASCAR, the X Games, or the NHL is because the first 3 sports mentioned have a large diversity of players. Those sports are seeing an increase in minority players and realize the importance of international popularity. MLB is having thier World Baseball classic next year, the NFL is playing preseason games in Japan and Mexico, and the NBA is starting to see a lot of more international dominance in their league, especially after the US was embarassed in the Athens games last summer. If one of the last of the 3 sports can make their league more diverse first, that league will have a great shot at making the top 4. My gut feeling is that whoever starts playing games in Japan or Mexico or some third world country first is probably gonna make a big effort in internationalizing their sport which I think will attract more fans to the game.

[FiddySicks]

Where a lot of people say the strike hurt hockey i think it helped it cuz right now, im really missing hockey. I cant wait till it starts back up and ive never really been much into hockey. And on top of all that the huge amount of player movements has just made me want to watch hockey even more. I dont know how long this Gung Ho for hockey will last but i know at least at the start of the year im going to be all in to hockey

[Cyclopsis Joe]

The one reason why the NFL, MLB, and NBA are bigger right now than NASCAR, the X Games, or the NHL is because the first 3 sports mentioned have a large diversity of players. Those sports are seeing an increase in minority players and realize the importance of international popularity. MLB is having thier World Baseball classic next year, the NFL is playing preseason games in Japan and Mexico, and the NBA is starting to see a lot of more international dominance in their league, especially after the US was embarassed in the Athens games last summer. If one of the last of the 3 sports can make their league more diverse first, that league will have a great shot at making the top 4. My gut feeling is that whoever starts playing games in Japan or Mexico or some third world country first is probably gonna make a big effort in internationalizing their sport which I think will attract more fans to the game.

Well, considering that NASCAR is just accepting women and blacks, it's going to be a while.

NASCAR on the whole diversity front is trying it's hardest to go international. Recently, it had it's first race in Mexico (Busch Series though) and had 7 Mexican drivers compete..a couple (Michael Jourdain [sp?] for instance) stayed on for a while. NASCAR also recently took over CASCAR (Canadian NASCAR). While that's not very much international, it's getting there. The problem with minorities in NASCAR is that most people view NASCAR the same way most people on this site do, a redneck sport. Bill Lester is one of the few blacks that have ever raced in NASCAR, due to itr roots..but hey, it's a start.

Anyway, NHL has the same problem NASCAR does..Hockey is the Union to NASCAR's confederate..North Vs. South.

At least NASCAR fans don't yell that NASCAR should take tracks out of the North...

*Looks at NHL fans who wanted the Tampa Bay Lightning to be destroyed*

[OB33]

Guys the NHL and NASCAR have clearly made this water under the bridge, why can't we all?

I find it kind of odd that more NASCAR fans aren't NHL fans and vice-versa. Both involve high speed, lots of collisions, and more than its fair share of fights.

Why can't we be friends

I've seen you 'round for a long long time

I remembered you when you drank my wine

I've seen you walking down in Chinatown

I called you but you could not look around

I paid my money to the welfare line

I see you standing in it every time

The color of your skin don't matter to me

As long as we can live in harmony

I'd kind of like to be the President

So I can show you how your money's spent

Sometimes I don't speak right

But yet I know what I'm talking about

I know you're working for the CIA

They wouldn't have you in the Mafi-A.

[winters in buffalo]

And it looks like Toyota will join NASCAR very soon. Heaven help us. A bunch of GD rice-burners in the All-American sport of NASCAR. Who's next, VW, Audi, Citroen? Makes you wonder who won the war.

And I hate road course racing. Wine and cheese Euro racing, that's what it is. Now THAT'S BORING!  Give me Daytona or Bristol or Charlotte anytime.

First of all, as a person of Asian descent I resent the term "GD rice-burners"

Secondly, how is Toyota getting into NASCAR a bad thing for you? Wouldn't you love to see an all-American car like Ford bump one of those Toyota cars out of the race track?

I hope they break out the hybrids so they can cut down on pit time!

[Redlands, CA]

Yes, Nascar has just started accepting African-Americans and Women. I don't think they will fully embrass them either. How long till we see women or black guy driving a car at Daytona?

[jkrdevil]

The one reason why the NFL, MLB, and NBA are bigger right now than NASCAR, the X Games, or the NHL is because the first 3 sports mentioned have a large diversity of players. Those sports are seeing an increase in minority players and realize the importance of international popularity. MLB is having thier World Baseball classic next year, the NFL is playing preseason games in Japan and Mexico, and the NBA is starting to see a lot of more international dominance in their league, especially after the US was embarassed in the Athens games last summer. If one of the last of the 3 sports can make their league more diverse first, that league will have a great shot at making the top 4. My gut feeling is that whoever starts playing games in Japan or Mexico or some third world country first is probably gonna make a big effort in internationalizing their sport which I think will attract more fans to the game.

Well, as International play goes Hockey and NHL have gone international long before the NBA and NFL. As of 2002 28% of the NHL were European. Hockey has long had international tournaments such as the Olympics, Canada Cup, and World Cup of Hockey.

[patsox]

My TV:

MLS, Damn it. MLS!

[ROCHitman]

Where a lot of people say the strike hurt hockey i think it helped it cuz right now, im really missing hockey. I cant wait till it starts back up and ive never really been much into hockey. And on top of all that the huge amount of player movements has just made me want to watch hockey even more. I dont know how long this Gung Ho for hockey will last but i know at least at the start of the year im going to be all in to hockey

Trust me bud, the lockout (not a strike!) hurt the game immensly.

I know several fanas who either aren't coming back or are gonna play the wait and see game with the game.

It's only us diehard fans in the minority that are all juiced up right now.