Johnny Damon.... a Yankee?

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John Flaherty will have the best year possible!.....I don't really like the Red Sox but I like them so much more than the damn yankees!

[Cujo]

Bucfan, it's an honor for my quote to be somewhere only the Pope and those two Panther Cheerleaders have been.

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Bucfan, it's an honor for my quote to be somewhere only the Pope and those two Panther Cheerleaders have been.

Yep, that was one crazy ass bathroom stall that night

[gashouser27]

i have been listening to red sox fans crying on the radio like ted williams or yaz just went to the yankees..

the red sox are no different than the yankees except with less money..

so it's okay to sign guys like ortiz, renteria, schilling. etc but not to lose other players?

damon was only in boston a few years..nobody cries when players leave kc or oakland for more money

damon won't have much fun in yankee stadium..his arm isn't much better than bernie's and he won't get the hits he got in fenway..but the yankees don't mind overpaying for old players

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i have been listening to red sox fans crying on the radio like ted williams or yaz just went to the yankees..

the red sox are no different than the yankees except with less money..

so it's okay to sign guys like ortiz, renteria, schilling. etc but not to lose other players?

damon was only in boston a few years..nobody cries when players leave kc or oakland for more money

damon won't have much fun in yankee stadium..his arm isn't much better than bernie's and he won't get the hits he got in fenway..but the yankees don't mind overpaying for old players

It's not the fact that players leave for other teams. The point is that a major part of the team leaves to sign and play for the biggest rival in the same division. If Damon goes to Atlanta or St. Louis or Oakland, it's not the same. He is leaving the Red Sox to play for the Yankees. It's like someone leaving the Cards to play for the Cubs.

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i have been listening to red sox fans crying on the radio like ted williams or yaz just went to the yankees..

the red sox are no different than the yankees except with less money..

so it's okay to sign guys like ortiz, renteria, schilling. etc but not to lose other players?

damon was only in boston a few years..nobody cries when players leave kc or oakland for more money

Ortiz wasn't exactly a huge free agent signing at the time, and if he was, he'd have gotten more than $5 million per year.

I don't know how you can say they're like the Yankees. Look at last years roster, Bill Mueller, Kevin Millar, Mark Bellhorn/Tony G., Trot Nixon -- not exactly huge name players that were a part of their starting roster. Not even Johnny Damon was as big as he his when he came to Boston. As for Manny Ramirez, he was signed in 2000 -- not done under Larry Lucchino's ownership. It would've been done by current Sox management. The team has made an effort to build their farm system at the expense of some of their big named talent. You brought up Renteria -- he got traded for a prospect. How Yankee-like is that? The Red Sox don't trip over themselves to sign a star player. They offered Varitek a nice contract when Varitek could've gotten more, and they stuck to it -- even then, that was resigning a player, not 'stealing' from another team. They also made an offer and stuck to it with Johnny Damon.

[gashouser27]

okay

i need to back off a little..they are an order of magnitude away from being as bad as the yankees..but they are second i think in salaries

my two points..the red sox used to be a team with a lot of tradition..you had guys who were just identified with being red sox..i could accept fans being depressed over someone like wade boggs going to the yankees..

but damon is always going to take the money..that's why he was in boston in the first place..

maybe it's the nature of baseball but the red sox finally won the world series and then they turn over their roster like it was a fantasy team..the unloaded their infield and half their starters..they made the post season two years in a row and their team is completely different..except for Papi, Ortiz and Varitek

it just kind of goes both ways

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All the moves they've made since the World Series were in the best interest of the baseball team.

I think it's what I posted earlier that pisses people off about Johnny Damon...

"playing baseball is not about the money, it is about the fans and playing for the love of the game, and more importantly, its about tonight, red sox-yankees, i live in boston, and i never want to leave, i want to play here the rest of my life, nothin could change that decision" - Johnny Damon - 2004 ALCS

That entire quote goes against what he did by signing with New York. He lied -- why should we respect him when it was the Red Sox fans that made him into the rockstar type he is, and then he turns his back on the team.

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The thing that really annoys me about Sox fans is, if Damon had resigned, none of you would start this talk that Damon is too old, not good out of Fenway, doesnt have a good arm, was too expensive, ect ect ect. No, all it would be is this talk, Oh Damon is sooooo good, hes so awesome, hes gonna kill everyone else in baseball. Yep, i truely do think that Damon is the ressurection of Christ. You can speculate and doubt and criticize all you want, but Damon is still gonna do good in NYC and is probably gonna do a lot to hurt your team. And yes you may have the second best centerfielder in the International league of prospects or whatever, but your not gonna be as good without Damon IMO. And yes you have made some decent moves to reamain competitive but not enough to compete with the Jays or Wanks. Now i could be wrong, but im gonna say this now. Get ready for a long season Sox fans

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The thing that really annoys me about Sox fans is, if Damon had resigned, none of you would start this talk that Damon is too old, not good out of Fenway, doesnt have a good arm, was too expensive, ect ect ect. No, all it would be is this talk, Oh Damon is sooooo good, hes so awesome, hes gonna kill everyone else in baseball. Yep, i truely do think that Damon is the ressurection of Christ. You can speculate and doubt and criticize all you want, but Damon is still gonna do good in NYC and is probably gonna do a lot to hurt your team. And yes you may have the second best centerfielder in the International league of prospects or whatever, but your not gonna be as good without Damon IMO. And yes you have made some decent moves to reamain competitive but not enough to compete with the Jays or Wanks. Now i could be wrong, but im gonna say this now. Get ready for a long season Sox fans

And what team do you like?

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The thing that really annoys me about Sox fans is, if Damon had resigned, none of you would start this talk that Damon is too old, not good out of Fenway, doesnt have a good arm, was too expensive, ect ect ect. No, all it would be is this talk, Oh Damon is sooooo good, hes so awesome, hes gonna kill everyone else in baseball. Yep, i truely do think that Damon is the ressurection of Christ. You can speculate and doubt and criticize all you want, but Damon is still gonna do good in NYC and is probably gonna do a lot to hurt your team. And yes you may have the second best centerfielder in the International league of prospects or whatever, but your not gonna be as good without Damon IMO. And yes you have made some decent moves to reamain competitive but not enough to compete with the Jays or Wanks. Now i could be wrong, but im gonna say this now. Get ready for a long season Sox fans

That's not true. On the Sox message board I've talked on, we've talked, one, like he wasn't going to be coming back, and two, that we really didn't one him back for the money and years he had wanted because of his age. I'm sure a lot of Red Sox fans would rather him be a part of the team next year, even now... but I've always been under the impression that he'd be playing elsewhere, and it'd be best for the team. Look at what he did in the second half of last season -- he was awful. He managed to drag a .340-ish batting average down towards .300.

As for your opinion on how the AL East will go...

The sox have improved their Defense, the Sox have improved their pitching (plus getting Schilling back), and they did so without sacrificing their lineup... you must be the type that's persuaded by big named signings.

They're stronger at 1B. They're stronger at 2B. They're stronger at 3B. And they can be just as strong in CF when they trade, that remains to be seen.