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most helmet decals have that, at all levels. the wings on my 8th grade and sophomore helmets had it, and the eagle heads on my junior and senior helmet had it. of course there are some that don't (the Rams' horns, I'd imagine, and most helmet stripes). the trick, I'd imagine, is to make it so it's not obvious.

Bike...heh, last time I recall their helmet being used, I think it was in the Arena league around 98 or 99 (I remember the helmet design-the back didn't have an arch like you see on Riddell helmets, but was actually relatively straight. I recall a lot of Arizona Rattlers wearing this style, and some NFL players wear a similar style.)

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It's an old photo of Danny White from '85. My point is that they could have used an exacto knife to make the edges smoother.

You're complaining about something that happened twenty years ago?!?!

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most helmet decals have that, at all levels.  the wings on my 8th grade and sophomore helmets had it, and the eagle heads on my junior and senior helmet had it.  of course there are some that don't (the Rams' horns, I'd imagine, and most helmet stripes).  the trick, I'd imagine, is to make it so it's not obvious.

Bike...heh, last time I recall their helmet being used, I think it was in the Arena league around 98 or 99 (I remember the helmet design-the back didn't have an arch like you see on Riddell helmets, but was actually relatively straight.  I recall a lot of Arizona Rattlers wearing this style, and some NFL players wear a similar style.)

The most recent use of the Bike helmets i can remember is when the XFL used them. They look a lot loke the Adams Helmets that pros like Warren Sapp wear

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My best guess would that Bike is accually still around in the NFL but they were either taken over by Adams, or just changed their name to Adams. Either way, they are the most comfortable style of football helmet you can buy IMO.

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It's an old photo of Danny White from '85. My point is that they could have used an exacto knife to make the edges smoother.

So you're saying that if you were the Cowboys equipment manager you would exacto knife around each of the 110 stars you had to replace each week?

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It's an old photo of Danny White from '85. My point is that they could have used an exacto knife to make the edges smoother.

So you're saying that if you were the Cowboys equipment manager you would exacto knife around each of the 110 stars you had to replace each week?

If an equip. mgr.'s replacing 110 helmet logos a week, he's doing something very, very wrong.

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Bike...heh, last time I recall their helmet being used, I think it was in the Arena league around 98 or 99 (I remember the helmet design-the back didn't have an arch like you see on Riddell helmets, but was actually relatively straight.  I recall a lot of Arizona Rattlers wearing this style, and some NFL players wear a similar style.)

The most recent use of the Bike helmets i can remember is when the XFL used them. They look a lot loke the Adams Helmets that pros like Warren Sapp wear

A2000.jpg

XFLHelmets2.png

My best guess would that Bike is accually still around in the NFL but they were either taken over by Adams, or just changed their name to Adams. Either way, they are the most comfortable style of football helmet you can buy IMO.

Actually Bike is a two-time loser in the helmet game. Some of this I remember, but this info is also in more detail in the questions section of Helmethut.com:

Bike manufactured the Air Power helmets from their introduction in the 70s until the about 1985/86. At that time Bike's parent company was sold, and the new owners didn't want the entire company open to the liability from helmet injury lawsuits, so they spun the helmet business off into a company called "Air Helmet Inc.". That was circa 1986; by this time most teams were covering the manufacturer logo on the sweatband with a team name decal, but you might find a few pictures of this helmet with the full name logo. Schutt Sports bought Air Helmet Inc. circa 1987; that is when you start to see the sweatband with the "Air" logo; the closest helmet to the old Bike "Air Power" still made is the Schutt "Pro Air II".

After Bike was sold a couple of times over the years they brought out the "Grid Pro" helmet worn by the XFL, Arena League, Warren Sapp and others in 1998/99. The helmet was actually so successful that Bike couldn't fill the orders they had and was forced to sell the line to Adams in 2000 or 2001.

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Actually, aren't the Rams horns painted on the helmet?

nope...the horns are decals...take a good look at a Rams player's pic next time you see one.

The Ram Horns have been decals for a while, but they were still painted on until sometime in the 80s (or maybe even the early 90s). The current navy/vegas gold have always been decals.

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It's an old photo of Danny White from '85. My point is that they could have used an exacto knife to make the edges smoother.

Yeah, that's a good point. In the same regard, all uniforms from the 1920s should have been done in color. Every uniform I've seen from then has been black and white. It really keeps me up at night.

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It's nice to see everyone take the time to engage in petty bickering as opposed to addressing the question, HOWEVER I would like to throw my comments into the mess.

At one time were the NFL decals thin printed decals without the layer of clear vinyl over the top? After visiting the Hall of Fame I noticed that the old helmet logos tended to get beaten up, streaked, smeared and cut much more easily than the current encarnation. Thus ease of destruction.

When did the switch from thin "contact paper thin" to the thick stickers with the clear coating take place?

I have a large number of helmets from the 60's and 70's and they all have the thin stickers. I am not a fan of the new thicker stickers because they all seem to end up with the "halo" of clear thick sticker. Even mini helmets have the thick stickers which look even MORE out of place.

Anyone know when the change was made?

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Just an interesting sidenote since the Rams' helmets were brought up. Michigan's helmets are another interesting case. When I was there, the helmet was a yellow helmet, with the blue portion painted on (yellow is tougher to paint on blue). Kind of neat, because I hadn't thought of it that way.

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