Stampman Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 He is the champion of throwing far. I have to start working that into conversation...I like it... Comic Sans walks into a bar, and the bartender says, "Sorry, we don't serve your type here." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sguse1 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 What about being coked up or high? That would eliminate basketball too.Football would be out too. Ricky Williams, Randy Moss, The Cowboys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zer0dotcom Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 OK, after sticking my head into the Cheerleading thread, I got thinking again about this thread, and came up with another direction in looking at what is and isn't a 'Sport"First, a dictionary definition of SportSport: (from Dictionary.com)i- Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.ii- A particular form of this activity.iii- An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.iv- An active pastime; recreation.ok, That encompasses alot of territory. Some of those definitions even contradit the other, so we have to break things down to a maore specific level, just like classify biological organisms.We have different types of sports: direct competition, indirect competition, hobby-ist, and subjective.Direct Competition: one or more individuals competeing against each other on the same field of play at the same time, with the outcome determined by accumulated points or measured resultsie- Basketball, Ice Hockey, Relay racingIndirect Competition: two or more individuals competing against each other in alternating turns, with the outcome determined by accumlated points or measured resultsie- Long Jumping, Golf, Bowling, Javelin, Hammer toss, Baseball?Hobby-ist:-/u] requiring only one competitor, but may be participated in by more, in alternating turns.ie- Darts, Golf, SnookerSubjective: Competitors, in teams or individually, perform set routines that are judged and given a score by a selected group of unbiased individuals.ie- High Diving, Figure Skating, Competitive Cheerleadingfor the sake of things, we should also define an AtheleteAthelete(again, from dictionary.com)-A person possessing the natural or acquired traits, such as strength, agility, and endurance, that are necessary for physical exercise or sports, especially those performed in competitive contexts.So, I've broken down 'Sport' into a more specific set of definitions. You can do that in many different ways using many different criteria. However, one constsant is that any individual that is involved in a 'Sport' is an "Athlete'. So in defining wether or not an activity is a sport, one must determine wether or not the individual participating is an athlete or not.Getting back to NASCAR, You could say that NASCAR drivers are athletes, but what they do does not fit the definition of other sports. It is not the driver's stamina, or any other physical ability that determines the speed of the car, unlike foot racing, or cycling. However, they must be fit, and train for what they do, and that fits with most 'Sport' definitions.I think you need to consider NASCAR, as well as all Vehiclular Races to be a totally unique activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paynomind Posted January 16, 2006 Author Share Posted January 16, 2006 Getting back to NASCAR, You could say that NASCAR drivers are athletes, but what they do does not fit the definition of other sports. It is not the driver's stamina, or any other physical ability that determines the speed of the car, unlike foot racing, or cycling. However, they must be fit, and train for what they do, and that fits with most 'Sport' definitions.I think you need to consider NASCAR, as well as all Vehiclular Races to be a totally unique activity. While the driver's stamina doesnt determine the top speed or current speed of the car, it does in fact determine the position of finish, and thereby the relative success.The idea of breaking up sport into direct and indirect competition is interesting. Though, I'm not sure it is appealing.I saw someone else with a definition that excluded anything you cant score *during* the event. I dont thinkt hats true, or else track wouldn't be a sport, and I dont think thats true. I think any GAME you score points, but sport doesnt have to be a game, it can be a race or a competition.I guess maybe sport is a personal definition. Like pornography, "I know it when i see it."Auto Racing - yes.Cheerleading - no.Track and Field - yes.Monster Trucks - no.Golf - yes.Bowling - no. NCFA Sunset Beach Tech - Octopi ΓΔΒ! Going to college gets you closer to the real world, kind of like climbing a tree gets you closer to the moon. "...a nice illustration of what you get when skill, talent, and precedent are deducted from 'creativity.' " - James Howard Kunstler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zer0dotcom Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 I guess maybe sport is a personal definition. Like pornography, "I know it when i see it."Auto Racing - yes.Cheerleading - no.Track and Field - yes.Monster Trucks - no.Golf - yes.Bowling - no. I think you're right payno, it's going to be one of those instances where you could put forth the perfect arguement for your point of view, and there will be some people who just don't see things in an other way than the way they do.I don't mean to say that to slander anyone, but it is true, there are people that have their pointof view and won't see things another way, even if just to be right in their own minds. Maybe we shouldn't worry about what others think of as sports, and go out and enjoy what we do.Hell, you could avoid the whole sport debate if you classified everything as 'competition' as opposed to 'sport' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Auto Racing - yes.Monster Trucks - no. Last time I checked, monster trucks are automobiles that race over salvage yard cars. Auto. Racing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmered Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 What about the Olympic sport of walking?You walk, you can't run, but you have to finish first.Isn't it like who can whisper the loudest?Why are there sports where they're just bastardised versions of other sports? Oh, and I've got a site.Footy Jumpers Dot Com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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