BigShoop Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Is there any MLB rule keeping them from changing their name from the Tampa Bay Devil Rays to St. Petersburg Whatevers? It seems like it'd be really good for the franchise to start over from scratch with new uniforms, new logos, and a new name. I can't think of a more hapless franchise in the last 20 years of MLB, including the unfortunate Montreal Expos. Is there any MLB rule keeping them from changing their name from the Tampa Bay Devil Rays to St. Petersburg Whatevers? It seems like it'd be really good for the franchise to start over from scratch with new uniforms, new logos, and a new name. I can't think of a more hapless franchise in the last 20 years of MLB, including the unfortunate Montreal Expos.Is there any MLB rule keeping them from changing their name from the Tampa Bay Devil Rays to St. Petersburg Whatevers? Tampa is the city of Tampa.Tampa BAY is the AREA including Tampa and St Petersburg.For some reason, the people of St Pete will NOT allow any sports team not include the "Bay" in the name.There's a real rift in this area between Hillsborough and Pinellas counties. For some reason, those damn bridges just create such a hassle... Anyway, as for all the changes:- the name Rays works just fine, if u ask me. I would love for it to change to Sting Rays or something like that, but hey what do I know?- i like the colors as well. not many, if any teams share the same colors.- the uniforms, i like, but dont LOVE. i think there is SO much potential that isnt being used. Specifically the logo on the sleeve, shown here:I just think that with the shape of the ray in the logo, our uniforms should be much more "modern".- By the way, the huge fishtank idea is a great idea. I swear, these new owners are changing this franchise for the better. I cant wait for the future... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull Position Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 It will be hilarious if they switch to "Rays" meaning sun and they keep playing in a dank dome on a puke green carpet. I'm all for keeping "Rays" and switching to Sunburn red and Sunshine gold as their color scheme and incorporating flames and what not into the mix....ok so I made up the color names....you get my drift.... Contract this...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigShoop Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 haha, so what youre saying is that you want the old uniform back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk36 Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Like the Ray form graphic but can't stand it with the TB... too busy. Here is my quick fix:1. Replace black with dark chocolate brown2. Lighten green up a bit so that it is a dark kelly green3. Remove Ray form from TB logo and rework the TB to be more pleasing (interlocking?)4. NO double outlines for numbers/letters. Simply green with dark chocolate brown outline. Design Hovie Studios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigShoop Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Like the Ray form graphic but can't stand it with the TB... too busy. Here is my quick fix:1. Replace black with dark chocolate brown2. Lighten green up a bit so that it is a dark kelly green3. Remove Ray form from TB logo and rework the TB to be more pleasing (interlocking?)4. NO double outlines for numbers/letters. Simply green with dark chocolate brown outline. you were goin good with 1 and 2....well, at least acceptable.3 - NO interlocking. ANYthing that reminds me of the Yankees is unacceptable.4 - double outlines work when used properly. See: my signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooter Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Personally, I don't like teams from the MLB, NFL, NBA or NHL duplicating nicknames (this includes the Giants, Cardinals, Kings, Panthers, and Rangers). Tampa Bay Expos? The Tampa Bay TiburonsYou want to name them after a Hyundai? My wife drives a Hyundai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Like the Ray form graphic but can't stand it with the TB... too busy. Here is my quick fix:1. Replace black with dark chocolate brown2. Lighten green up a bit so that it is a dark kelly green3. Remove Ray form from TB logo and rework the TB to be more pleasing (interlocking?)4. NO double outlines for numbers/letters. Simply green with dark chocolate brown outline. 1. Odd thing is, a dark shade of brown just might work, maybe even a real dark shade of copper. 2. I agree3. No to the interlocking, but a different TB isnt a bad idea.4. I seem to like single outline in baseball, but the Bucs are an awesome example of good double outlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wman Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 The more I think about it, if they switch to just Rays formally, then maybe it could also mean the return of BRUCE. He's orange, he's red, he's rested and ready.... Bring back the Whale! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gueman Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 I still like the idea of changing the name from Devil Rays to Sting Rays.But they do need to change colors. I don't think they can with out paying some shlub $$$. If I remember correctly someone in the south registered the name Tampa Bay Sting Rays along with about 100 variations of the same so Rays is out as well. That is why they got stuck with Devil Rays I guess he missed one. My suggestion is drop Tampa Bay as the location and call them the Tampa Bays. Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. P. J. O'Rourke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopard88 Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Personally, I don't like teams from the MLB, NFL, NBA or NHL duplicating nicknames (this includes the Giants, Cardinals, Kings, Panthers, and Rangers). Tampa Bay Expos? The Tampa Bay TiburonsYou want to name them after a Hyundai? My wife drives a Hyundai. Not meant as a dig at the cars, just the name. Hyundai builds a decent car these days.As for removing the roof, I am no architect ("you know I've always wanted to pretend I'm an architect"), but if they remove the roof, they mave be able to tear down the wall beyond centerfield (and eliminate the "cylinder") since there will no longer be a roof to support. I have no idea if it is integral to the rest of the exterior structure, but probably not in a way that would require the entire wall to stay up in its present configuration. Most Liked Content of the Day -- February 15, 2017, August 21, 2017, August 22, 2017 ///// Proud Winner of the CCSLC Post of the Day Award -- April 8, 2008 Originator of the Upside Down Sarcasm Smilie -- November 1, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjm Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 You know, it's really hot in Florida in the summer. If they tore the roof down, by the 4th inning of the first home game the fans will be wishing for air conditioning. The Metrodome is ugly too but Twins fans show up. Marlins fans don't show up for a winning team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltravisjr Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 How about the "Tampa Bay Bridgemen"? The logic behind the name would be that the bridge is a prominent feature of the area, and - let's be honest - "bridge" is a card game which is probably rather popular with the population down there . LT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJTALBOT Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Once the Marlins change their name to the MIAMI Marlins or move, the Devil Rays should become the FLORIDA RAYS.I like the color scheme myself.Rays are black so black should stay.Only one team has green as a primary color so green should stay.The Blue could be brighter or changed to purple.Go Florida Rays.I cast you out Devil Everyone loves a roundel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC97 Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 How bout as long as there's the Angels in LA/Ana and Padres in SD, the religious fanatics learn to live with their team being named after a fish with horns. --- Chris Creamer Founder/Editor, SportsLogos.Net "The Mothership" • News • Facebook • X/Twitter • Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puckguy14 Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Maybe it is time for a team to go modern in baseball. Yes baseball has a rich history, but judging by the recent ASG practice jerseys, me thinks MLB wants someone to be the guinea pig in modern jerseys again. As for colors:Black, purple, jade, with a hint of orange 2004 San Jose Sharks 7th Man Fan of the Year San Jose Gold Miners - 4x Lombardi Cup Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 How bout as long as there's the Angels in LA/Ana and Padres in SD, the religious fanatics learn to live with their team being named after a fish with horns. Ha ha...."Amen." 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffin128 Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Here's a crazy idea, how 'bout yellow!If they go to just "rays".No one uses yellow as a primary. It would be unique, it would be floridian, it would be exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANGELCAT-IDA61 Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 I'D CALL THEM THE TAMPA BAY FRUIT BARS, BECAUSE THEIRLOGO LOOKS SO FRUITY, BUT OF COURSE THEY ARE GOING TO CHANGE THEIRWHOLE ENTIRE IMAGE (INCLUDING TEAM COLORS) IF THEY DO SO NEXT SEASON.THERE CURRENT LOGOS LOOK LIKE A FRUIT GARDEN!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack76 Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Naimoli and Company were ready to go with "Tampa Bay Stingrays" until the mighty "Maui Stingrays" of the former Hawaiian Winter League churpped up and asked for millions for the trademarked name.Since Vince Naimoli was not about to spend one more cent on this franchise, he opted for the stingray's close cousin, the devil ray, and POOF, the "Tampa Bay Devil Rays" were born.I agree that the dark blue is needs to be lighter, like to sky blue or "Clearwater Blue."As for the TB...I've always hated that abbreviation because of a certain disease sharing the same abbreviation. I would just go with an icon of a ___ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElwoodCuse Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 I don't think they can with out paying some shlub $$$. If I remember correctly someone in the south registered the name Tampa Bay Sting Rays along with about 100 variations of the same so Rays is out as well. That is why they got stuck with Devil Rays I guess he missed one. My suggestion is drop Tampa Bay as the location and call them the Tampa Bays. USPTO.gov shows only "Tampa Bay Manta Rays" as anything differently registered, and that registration is (1) now dead and (2) was originally owned by the Devil Rays anyway.Trademarks are very hard to squat, because you have to actually use them. Maybe you mean the domain name? Those were very easy to squat until Congress passed laws against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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