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I have this crazy idea of adding a 12th member into the Big Ten Conference. It would be a completely new institution called Missouri Tech University. This would solve a lot a problems. It would make the Big Ten worthy of a football championship. It makes since geographically, since adding Norte Dame poses serious problems when it comes to dividing the conference into two. Here's how my Big Ten Conference:

Eastern Division

Indiana

Michigan

Michigan State

Ohio State

Penn State

Purdue

Western Division

Illinois

Iowa

Minnesota

Missouri Tech

Northwestern

Wisconsin

The football format would be play all 5 teams in your division, play 1 permenent member of the opposite division, and two other teams on a rotating schedule. If you have 3 home games against your own division, you play the permenet opponent away, and vice versa. (Missouri Tech's permenet opponent would be Indiana.) In basketball, you play home and home for all your division foes. Western teams play one of the Indiana schools, Michigan schools and either Ohio State or Penn State at home. Eastern teams play one of the Illinois schools, either Minnesota or Wisconsin, and either Iowa or Missouri Tech. Every other year, you flip which teams from the opposite division you play.

I know that, from a financial prospective, getting a new university is next to impossible. To me, just putting my ideas down is good enough for me. What do you guys think?

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I was thinking about this last night when I went to dinner with some friends and I was thinking move Notre Dame to the Big Ten we could move Penn State over to the Big East and have Iowa State move to the Big Ten as well, with that we could have 12 teams. Now the Big XII could bring Rice or Texas Christian into the conference to even things out.

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I was thinking about this last night when I went to dinner with some friends and I was thinking move Notre Dame to the Big Ten we could move Penn State over to the Big East and have Iowa State move to the Big Ten as well, with that we could have 12 teams. Now the Big XII could bring Rice or Texas Christian into the conference to even things out.

So youd bump out Penn State, who WON the Big Ten, and bump out Iowa State from the Big XII for some scrub like Rice? I dont see that ever happening, but who knows...

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I was thinking about this last night when I went to dinner with some friends and I was thinking move Notre Dame to the Big Ten we could move Penn State over to the Big East and have Iowa State move to the Big Ten as well, with that we could have 12 teams.  Now the Big XII could bring Rice or Texas Christian into the conference to even things out.

The problem with your idea is that you may have to split up the Oklahoma schools when it comes to football. You may have to do like the ACC in division alighnment, but it could get both messy and ugly.

Oh, BTW, I have a poll over in Polls only where you guys get to pick the nickname for my school idea. The only thing is you are NOT ALLOWED to pick any nickname outside what I offer. Because of that, Tigers, Bears and Redhawks are forbidden. If you have the time, come over there and vote. Voting ends March 6th at 9:00 PM EST.

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I like the idea of adding another team, however, it would be a slap in the face to the conference to add some brand new team in there for the sole purpose of having a championship game. What comes to mind to me is adding a smaller pre-existing institution in I-AA such as Missouri State, Indiana State or Illinois State, or an Independent, such as Notre Dame or Temple. The only problem there would be that you have the Big 10 and Big XII both with 12 teams, which makes less sense than the whole 11 team thing.

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I would love to see the Big "Ten" add a 12th team. I'd love to see a Big Ten championship game every year for football. Then again, if they kicked out a team I wouldn't be that upset cause it would allow everyone to play each other once in football. Penn State really makes no sense being in the Big Ten in the first place, but it did add another legitimate football power house into the conference. But there aren't any that have the history and the location except Notre Dame to add to the conference. If Kentucky, Vandy, or Tennessee didn't have such a history with the SEC they'd make sense. Same with Mizzu in the Big XII. If Marquette had football they'd be a nice addition. But like i said, the only school that makes sense is Notre Dame and they sure has hell aren't going to abandon the lush 10 win rule or whatever and the NBC TV contract.

When Penn State came in I believe they had Notre Dame locked up for everything but Football and that's why they didn't do it.

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I'd rather see the powers that be allow 11-school conferences to hold conference title games and leave things right where they are.

The Big Ten is perfect with its 11 constituents (perfect except the name, that is :rolleyes: ). And Penn State was about as ideal a fit as they could've hoped for when looking for an 11th member. Notre Dame would be perfect as the 12th if they needed one, and if ND would get off its high horse long enough to realize they're not above joining a conference for football.

This 12-team rule is a bad idea all around. There aren't many palatable options for conferences. Creating a fictional university would be insulting to existing schools, true; but adding a patsy like Temple hurts the credibility of the conference and the schools that are already members. How good would the Big Ten look if they took a school that would go 0-11 every year as their way to justify that they should have a conference title game? It's so transparent I can read the want ads through it.

I say this watching the shenanigans the ACC pulled to get to the magic number. Miami and Va. Tech were great additions - larger schools in the Southeast, each with a major rival already in the conference. But BC is a terrible idea that shouldn't have been done. The school has nothing in common with the other league members; it's a small Catholic school in New England. Their closest conference rival is on the DC Beltway, nearly 400 miles south. In doing so, they've taken a basketball-first league centered on local geographic rivalries and round-robin play and tried to make it into something that will work in the Northeast, bypassing Philadelphia and New York City along the way. If they were that desperate to get a dozen, there were other choices that were more compatible in terms of the combination of location, history and size: Louisville, West Virginia, East Carolina, South Carolina, even Marshall.

I know that the football championship brings huge money for the conference. Personally, I'd rather the ACC stayed at 11, and I'd be able to watch UNC play Wake Forest and Georgia Tech twice, or see Duke play NC State again.

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Wait, you invented a university to flesh out a conference? I can't tell if that's the most creative or least creative approach to this problem.

As for the ol' Baker's Ten, just change the rules so they can have a champion. Who cares. College football has no integrity. Its champions are declared by fiat.

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We don't need a championship game in football. It works fine like it is. The current set-up makes every game more important. Just ask Michigan, Ohio State or Penn State.

I have heard talk about Syracuse joining the Big 10 which would certainly add some luster to the basketball side of things but from a football perspective they bring nothing to the table.

I say leave it alone. It works like it is. For me it's Notre Dame or no one. :D

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Well for one thing if Notre Dame did join a conference it would be the Big East because that's their conference for everything else. However it doesn't matter becasue Notre Dame is staying a football independent and no one is joining the Big 10.

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I think Iowa State should join, they are about at the same level as Minnesota, Wisconson, Northwestern, Iowa and Michigan State. They would be competitive. I dont know if Missouri Tech could survive in the Tough Big Ten Confrence. They should start in MAC or Confrence USA

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If Iowa State was admitted into the Big 10, you'd still have the Cy-Hawk Rivalry. But then again, Iowa State in the Big 12 works just as great. I just can't see the Cyclones play at Michigan's Big House, Ohio State's Horseshoe, and Penn State's Happy Valley every other year or so and literally survive a tough Big Ten slate.

For me, I'd have to agree with the majority of my peers here. For another member, it's Notre Dame or bust.

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I also had the same idea with college football conferences except I made ten conferences with 12 teams each (CUSA only has 11)

ACC

Coastal

Boston College

Clemson

Florida State

Maryland

North Carolina State

Wake Forest

Atlantic

Duke

Georgia Tech

Miami FL

North Carolina

Virginia

Virginia Tech

Big East

South

Cincinnati

Louisville

Buffalo

West Virginia

Navy

South Florida

North

Connecticut

Pittsburgh

Rutgers

Syracuse

Army

Temple

Big Ten

West

Illinois

Iowa

Minnesota

Northwestern

Purdue

Wisconsin

East

Indiana

Michigan

Michigan State

Ohio State

Penn State

Notre Dame

Big Twelve

North

Colorado

Iowa State

Kansas

Kansas State

Missouri

Nebraska

South

Baylor

Oklahoma

Oklahoma State

Texas

Texas A&M

Texas Tech

Pac Ten

South

Arizona

Arizona State

California

Southern California

Stanford

UCLA

North

Oregon

Oregon State

Washington

Washington State

Boise State

Utah

Southeastern

East

Florida

Georgia

Kentucky

South Carolina

Tennessee

Vanderbilt

West

Alabama

Arkansas

Auburn

Louisiana State

Mississippi

Mississippi State

MAC

East

Akron

Bowling Green

Kent State

Marshall

Miami OH

Ohio

West

Ball State

Central Michigan

Eastern Michigan

Northern Illinois

Toledo

Western Michigan

WAC

West

Fresno State

Hawai'i

San Jose State

San Diego State

Idaho

Nevada

East

Louisiana Tech

New Mexico State

Utah State

New Mexico

Wyoming

UNLV

MWC

East

UL-Lafayette

UL-Monroe

Tulsa

North Texas

Houston

Rice

West

Air Force

Brigham Young

Colorado State

TCU

SMU

UTEP

CUSA

East

East Carolina

UCF

Florida Atlantic

Florida Int.

Middle Tennessee

Memphis

West

Southern Miss

UAB

Tulane

Arkansas State

Troy

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