BigMac12 Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 I have this crazy idea of adding a 12th member into the Big Ten Conference. It would be a completely new institution called Missouri Tech University. This would solve a lot a problems. It would make the Big Ten worthy of a football championship. It makes since geographically, since adding Norte Dame poses serious problems when it comes to dividing the conference into two. Here's how my Big Ten Conference:Eastern DivisionIndianaMichiganMichigan StateOhio StatePenn StatePurdueWestern DivisionIllinoisIowaMinnesotaMissouri TechNorthwesternWisconsinThe football format would be play all 5 teams in your division, play 1 permenent member of the opposite division, and two other teams on a rotating schedule. If you have 3 home games against your own division, you play the permenet opponent away, and vice versa. (Missouri Tech's permenet opponent would be Indiana.) In basketball, you play home and home for all your division foes. Western teams play one of the Indiana schools, Michigan schools and either Ohio State or Penn State at home. Eastern teams play one of the Illinois schools, either Minnesota or Wisconsin, and either Iowa or Missouri Tech. Every other year, you flip which teams from the opposite division you play.I know that, from a financial prospective, getting a new university is next to impossible. To me, just putting my ideas down is good enough for me. What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 I was thinking about this last night when I went to dinner with some friends and I was thinking move Notre Dame to the Big Ten we could move Penn State over to the Big East and have Iowa State move to the Big Ten as well, with that we could have 12 teams. Now the Big XII could bring Rice or Texas Christian into the conference to even things out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 I'll agree with anything to get money hungry Notre Dame into a conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 I was thinking about this last night when I went to dinner with some friends and I was thinking move Notre Dame to the Big Ten we could move Penn State over to the Big East and have Iowa State move to the Big Ten as well, with that we could have 12 teams. Now the Big XII could bring Rice or Texas Christian into the conference to even things out. So youd bump out Penn State, who WON the Big Ten, and bump out Iowa State from the Big XII for some scrub like Rice? I dont see that ever happening, but who knows... On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMac12 Posted February 5, 2006 Author Share Posted February 5, 2006 I was thinking about this last night when I went to dinner with some friends and I was thinking move Notre Dame to the Big Ten we could move Penn State over to the Big East and have Iowa State move to the Big Ten as well, with that we could have 12 teams. Now the Big XII could bring Rice or Texas Christian into the conference to even things out. The problem with your idea is that you may have to split up the Oklahoma schools when it comes to football. You may have to do like the ACC in division alighnment, but it could get both messy and ugly.Oh, BTW, I have a poll over in Polls only where you guys get to pick the nickname for my school idea. The only thing is you are NOT ALLOWED to pick any nickname outside what I offer. Because of that, Tigers, Bears and Redhawks are forbidden. If you have the time, come over there and vote. Voting ends March 6th at 9:00 PM EST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMU Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 I like the idea of adding another team, however, it would be a slap in the face to the conference to add some brand new team in there for the sole purpose of having a championship game. What comes to mind to me is adding a smaller pre-existing institution in I-AA such as Missouri State, Indiana State or Illinois State, or an Independent, such as Notre Dame or Temple. The only problem there would be that you have the Big 10 and Big XII both with 12 teams, which makes less sense than the whole 11 team thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC97 Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Can't happen... Texas A&M would sue because they own the number 12 --- Chris Creamer Founder/Editor, SportsLogos.Net "The Mothership" • News • Facebook • X/Twitter • Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFoA Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Can't happen... Texas A&M would sue because they own the number 12 OWNED Texas A&M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcgd Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 I would love to see the Big "Ten" add a 12th team. I'd love to see a Big Ten championship game every year for football. Then again, if they kicked out a team I wouldn't be that upset cause it would allow everyone to play each other once in football. Penn State really makes no sense being in the Big Ten in the first place, but it did add another legitimate football power house into the conference. But there aren't any that have the history and the location except Notre Dame to add to the conference. If Kentucky, Vandy, or Tennessee didn't have such a history with the SEC they'd make sense. Same with Mizzu in the Big XII. If Marquette had football they'd be a nice addition. But like i said, the only school that makes sense is Notre Dame and they sure has hell aren't going to abandon the lush 10 win rule or whatever and the NBC TV contract.When Penn State came in I believe they had Notre Dame locked up for everything but Football and that's why they didn't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VitaminD Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 I'd rather see the powers that be allow 11-school conferences to hold conference title games and leave things right where they are.The Big Ten is perfect with its 11 constituents (perfect except the name, that is ). And Penn State was about as ideal a fit as they could've hoped for when looking for an 11th member. Notre Dame would be perfect as the 12th if they needed one, and if ND would get off its high horse long enough to realize they're not above joining a conference for football.This 12-team rule is a bad idea all around. There aren't many palatable options for conferences. Creating a fictional university would be insulting to existing schools, true; but adding a patsy like Temple hurts the credibility of the conference and the schools that are already members. How good would the Big Ten look if they took a school that would go 0-11 every year as their way to justify that they should have a conference title game? It's so transparent I can read the want ads through it.I say this watching the shenanigans the ACC pulled to get to the magic number. Miami and Va. Tech were great additions - larger schools in the Southeast, each with a major rival already in the conference. But BC is a terrible idea that shouldn't have been done. The school has nothing in common with the other league members; it's a small Catholic school in New England. Their closest conference rival is on the DC Beltway, nearly 400 miles south. In doing so, they've taken a basketball-first league centered on local geographic rivalries and round-robin play and tried to make it into something that will work in the Northeast, bypassing Philadelphia and New York City along the way. If they were that desperate to get a dozen, there were other choices that were more compatible in terms of the combination of location, history and size: Louisville, West Virginia, East Carolina, South Carolina, even Marshall.I know that the football championship brings huge money for the conference. Personally, I'd rather the ACC stayed at 11, and I'd be able to watch UNC play Wake Forest and Georgia Tech twice, or see Duke play NC State again. "Start spreading the news... They're leavin' today... Won't get to be a part of it... In old New York..."In order for the Mets' run of 12 losses in 17 games to mean something, the Phillies still had to win 13 of 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Wait, you invented a university to flesh out a conference? I can't tell if that's the most creative or least creative approach to this problem.As for the ol' Baker's Ten, just change the rules so they can have a champion. Who cares. College football has no integrity. Its champions are declared by fiat. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Adding a 12th team to the Big Ten. That would ruin one the great conference logos in the entire NCAA!! I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared41 Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 We don't need a championship game in football. It works fine like it is. The current set-up makes every game more important. Just ask Michigan, Ohio State or Penn State.I have heard talk about Syracuse joining the Big 10 which would certainly add some luster to the basketball side of things but from a football perspective they bring nothing to the table. I say leave it alone. It works like it is. For me it's Notre Dame or no one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrdevil Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Well for one thing if Notre Dame did join a conference it would be the Big East because that's their conference for everything else. However it doesn't matter becasue Notre Dame is staying a football independent and no one is joining the Big 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bterreson Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Adding a 12th team to the Big Ten. That would ruin one the great conference logos in the entire NCAA!! "True dat, double true" Tumblr. Twitter. Flickr. Facebook. Last.Fm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucskick20 Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 I think Iowa State should join, they are about at the same level as Minnesota, Wisconson, Northwestern, Iowa and Michigan State. They would be competitive. I dont know if Missouri Tech could survive in the Tough Big Ten Confrence. They should start in MAC or Confrence USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerodynamix Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 If Iowa State was admitted into the Big 10, you'd still have the Cy-Hawk Rivalry. But then again, Iowa State in the Big 12 works just as great. I just can't see the Cyclones play at Michigan's Big House, Ohio State's Horseshoe, and Penn State's Happy Valley every other year or so and literally survive a tough Big Ten slate.For me, I'd have to agree with the majority of my peers here. For another member, it's Notre Dame or bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwings8831 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I also had the same idea with college football conferences except I made ten conferences with 12 teams each (CUSA only has 11)ACCCoastalBoston CollegeClemsonFlorida StateMarylandNorth Carolina StateWake ForestAtlanticDukeGeorgia TechMiami FLNorth CarolinaVirginiaVirginia TechBig EastSouthCincinnatiLouisville BuffaloWest VirginiaNavySouth FloridaNorthConnecticutPittsburghRutgersSyracuseArmyTempleBig TenWestIllinoisIowaMinnesota NorthwesternPurdueWisconsin EastIndianaMichiganMichigan StateOhio StatePenn StateNotre DameBig TwelveNorthColoradoIowa StateKansasKansas StateMissouriNebraskaSouthBaylorOklahomaOklahoma StateTexasTexas A&MTexas TechPac TenSouthArizonaArizona StateCaliforniaSouthern CaliforniaStanfordUCLA NorthOregonOregon StateWashingtonWashington StateBoise State UtahSoutheasternEastFloridaGeorgiaKentuckySouth CarolinaTennesseeVanderbiltWestAlabamaArkansasAuburnLouisiana StateMississippiMississippi StateMACEastAkronBowling GreenKent StateMarshallMiami OHOhioWestBall StateCentral MichiganEastern MichiganNorthern IllinoisToledoWestern MichiganWACWestFresno StateHawai'iSan Jose StateSan Diego StateIdaho NevadaEastLouisiana TechNew Mexico StateUtah StateNew MexicoWyomingUNLVMWCEastUL-LafayetteUL-MonroeTulsaNorth TexasHoustonRiceWestAir ForceBrigham Young Colorado State TCUSMUUTEP CUSAEastEast CarolinaUCFFlorida AtlanticFlorida Int.Middle TennesseeMemphisWestSouthern MissUABTulaneArkansas StateTroy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amfleisch Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 bring back u of c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJ Sands Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 The Big Ten's 12th team has to be Mizzou. They already have a rivalry with Illinois and would expand the Big Ten's fan base a bit further west.To replace Mizzou in the Big XII is Colorado State. Too easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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