DEAD! Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 Well, maybe Arsenal do indeed get away kits contrary to what we thought... A few more stripes there and we would have "Inter Arsenal" I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreGuy Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 Hi SabreGuy!In fact there are two clubs in Spanish Primera Division that do not have sponsor logo on the shirts. I don't know exactly how was it in the past with Athletic Bilbao but I'm definetely sure that FC Barcelona has never ever had anything on their chests. Sometimes the idea of getting some extra money appears in the club but it's strongly opposed by the fans. The deal is that fans have real power in few Spanish clubs (Real Madrid is among them as well) which means that every fan paying regular fees has right to vote for the chairman.So far they stay with tradition and even Nike pays extra for being the only commercial symbol seen on the jerseys. That sounds like a good way to do it... have Nike pay more. ha haSo, another side question (and thanks guys, I'm actually learning a lot) is, when you, as a fan, buy a replica jersey to wear, does it generally have the ad on it or not? "You could put an empty orange helmet on the 50-yard line at Cleveland Browns Stadium and 50,000 fans would show up to stare at it."-Terry Pluto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilt Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 That sounds like a good way to do it... have Nike pay more. ha haSo, another side question (and thanks guys, I'm actually learning a lot) is, when you, as a fan, buy a replica jersey to wear, does it generally have the ad on it or not? Yes, the do have ads. Normally you cannot buy it without it. Sometimes they even release replicas of national teams with the ad (in contrary to volleyball and basketball, national football teams cannot advertise during the games). Normally you get them if you buy some products from the sponsor before the World Cup but as far as I member the Irish shirts were sold only with Eircom logo 4 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilt Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 That sounds like a good way to do it... have Nike pay more. ha haSo, another side question (and thanks guys, I'm actually learning a lot) is, when you, as a fan, buy a replica jersey to wear, does it generally have the ad on it or not? Yes, the replicas have ads as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theLOFTstudio Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 oh please tell me that blue/black is a fake... arsenal does not need any black! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zjac7 Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 Those Arsenal blue/black shirts are hideous! And just when I was so excited about their classy home shirts. Let's hope they keep them to a minimum (or even better, that they're fake)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 The blue/black Arsenal shirt might be for Champions League play only. Let's hope so, It think they look horrible. Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Could be. Other clubs have had Champions League only shirts.They are keeping the yellow and gray, according to the club charter, but it could well be a third kit.I really hate that patch on the Man U shirt. It's not "retro" - it's just blocky. Diminishes the impact of the club crest (which I guess is okay, since it's not my club).And SabreGuy, just to add one more thing to the "Fly Emirates" conversation, Chelsea was sponsored by Emirates a couple years ago, and wore the slogan:And the Premiership refs are currently sponsored by Emirates: The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2mr41h Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 The blue/black Arsenal kit is a fake. It's a Photoshopped Barca kit (thank God).I doubt you'll see AFC and ManUre in blue change kits in the same year when they're outfitted by the same manufacturer.At no point in their history has AFC worn blue & black. (Blue, yes. Black, no.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 At no point in their history has AFC worn blue & black. (Blue, yes. Black, no.) So what?There was a time when Arsenal had never worn metallic gold in their history.There was a time when Arsenal had never worn dark blue in their history.There was a time when Arsenal had never worn gradients in their history.Actually, could we go back to that last time? Seriously, though. Even a club like Arsenal isn't bound by the kits of its history for new change kit design. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintsfan Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Aaah, well, thank you all for answering so quickly. I guess I haven't heard of them, becuase they only fly to like 4 cities in the US, and the one I live in is not nearly as big as those four. I believe the only other country where flights go in to and out of the Buffalo Niagara INTERNATIONAL Airport from is Canada. :-PSo... I have a follow up question...Do football (soccer) fans ever get ticked off because they don't like the sponsor of their team? Do they ever switch teams because they don't like the sponsor?Like, if all of a sudden Volkswagen is sponsoring your team, and you're like "those cars suck, I bought a VW and it broke after 2 weeks" do you get mad? Do you pick the team sponsored by someone you DO like?Or are you pretty much able to ignore that giant honkin' sponsor logo? I gotta tell ya, every time I watched Arsenal play, I'd be thinking "man, that emirates thing drives me batty." Just as an interesting sidenote, no self respecting fan would change alliegiance over a sponsors logo. However many fans would boycott a company for sponsoring an enemy team. Incidentally somene asked about logos on replica shirts, certainly in the UK kids sized shirts don't have alcohol manufacturers logos on- certainly sometimes. And playing EA sports soccer games you don't get alcohol related logos either. 2011/12 WFL Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreGuy Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 A-ha! So if I wanted to stay logo free, I would have to root for a team sponsored by alcohol, and then starve myself till I fit in a kids size! "You could put an empty orange helmet on the 50-yard line at Cleveland Browns Stadium and 50,000 fans would show up to stare at it."-Terry Pluto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosioux76 Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Incidentally somene asked about logos on replica shirts, certainly in the UK kids sized shirts don't have alcohol manufacturers logos on- certainly sometimes. And playing EA sports soccer games you don't get alcohol related logos either. I think the same can be said for gambling-related sponsors.When I bought the latest FIFA game for my PC, Middlesbrough -- sponsored by some gambling Web site -- had sponsor-less kits. It wasn't until I downloaded a patch for the game that I could play a sponsored Middlesbrough team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2mr41h Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 At no point in their history has AFC worn blue & black. (Blue, yes. Black, no.) So what?There was a time when Arsenal had never worn metallic gold in their history.There was a time when Arsenal had never worn dark blue in their history.There was a time when Arsenal had never worn gradients in their history.Actually, could we go back to that last time? Seriously, though. Even a club like Arsenal isn't bound by the kits of its history for new change kit design. Gothamite,You're right on all points, and we've had some HIDEOUS away kits. I just don't think Arsenal would want a kit that mirrors the team that we just lost the European title to, nor would they want a kit that features a shade that has never been associated with the club (black).Add black to red and white and you get ManUre.In a year where Nike is heavily referencing history with many of these designs, they'd have little point in making an Arsenal kit that didn't reflect the club.Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintsfan Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 A-ha! So if I wanted to stay logo free, I would have to root for a team sponsored by alcohol, and then starve myself till I fit in a kids size! Or support Barcelona! 2011/12 WFL Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Not sure if it was shown earlier, but West Brom are now sponsored by Umbro for unifroms. T mobile is still the shirt sponsor. Uni's are pretty close to kits from 2 years ago. Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Just as an interesting sidenote, no self respecting fan would change alliegiance over a sponsors logo. However many fans would boycott a company for sponsoring an enemy team. Which is why Celtic and Rangers have the same sponsor - no company wants to take sides in that rivalry.... The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 At no point in their history has AFC worn blue & black. (Blue, yes. Black, no.) So what?There was a time when Arsenal had never worn metallic gold in their history.There was a time when Arsenal had never worn dark blue in their history.There was a time when Arsenal had never worn gradients in their history.Actually, could we go back to that last time? Seriously, though. Even a club like Arsenal isn't bound by the kits of its history for new change kit design. Gothamite,You're right on all points, and we've had some HIDEOUS away kits. I just don't think Arsenal would want a kit that mirrors the team that we just lost the European title to, nor would they want a kit that features a shade that has never been associated with the club (black).Add black to red and white and you get ManUre.In a year where Nike is heavily referencing history with many of these designs, they'd have little point in making an Arsenal kit that didn't reflect the club.Doug I'm with you on the Barca thing, but your objection to black doesn't seem to make any sense to me.By that logic, Arsenal would never have let Nike use the dark blue of Spurs. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Just realized - they've made at least one change since the first leaked pic - the cannon was lowered from the collar (which Nike is using for other teams' marks on this template) to the shirt itself. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordie_delini Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 dear god those are beautiful....july 18, i can't wait to get one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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