tdk1984 Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Now that I think about it, maybe they did drop the ball on this one.by the way,Who would want to spend a beautiful Florida day HERE? I would, if the Rays were any good. Watch some baseball, no worries about rain delays, etc. But then again, this is coming from someone who has only been to one pro sport game and that was a Twins game at the Metrodome. Not changing until the Dallas Stars give all their pre-Dallas history, logos, colors, unis, name, etc. to the Minnesota Wild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdk1984 Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 The thing about all these "new" cookie-cutter ballparks is they each have a uniqueness to themselves.Look at, for example, Safeco Field in Seattle and Minute Maid Park in Houston. Two stadiums with similar types of retractable domes, but so different in other ways.You ain't gonna see the Gateway Arch in any other place than new Bush Stadium in St. Louis. You ain't gonna see a ring around a certain part of the stadium that designates exactly one mile high except at Coors Field in Denver. You ain't gonna see McCovey Cove in any place at ... whatever the ballpark is called in San Francisco.If these are cookie-cutter ballparks, then please, give me more cookies. I agree. Not changing until the Dallas Stars give all their pre-Dallas history, logos, colors, unis, name, etc. to the Minnesota Wild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdk1984 Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Cookie-cutter this:Gosh dang i love that stadium......So beautiful........... It is. I'd probably go on vacation to Pittsburgh and see a Pirates game if they were worth watching. Unfortunately, they're not. Not changing until the Dallas Stars give all their pre-Dallas history, logos, colors, unis, name, etc. to the Minnesota Wild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Youve obviously never been to St. Pete in mid July. The humidity is HORRIBLE. Check out Houston between June and August....and dear God bring an extra absorbent towel, you'll need it to mop up the twenty pounds of sweat you'll drop if you stay outdoors. Done it. I went to the 2004 ASG. And yeah, its terrible in Houston in July, but thats exactly where the Stros franchise got it right, they built a retractable roof stadium. Although i will say even with the roof, its still metal and it can be miserable in the upper deck. If i were a player id never sign with teams likeWashington (especially considering that their AAA team plays in an open air stadium in New Orleans)St. LouisChicago (i think, never been there in July)Houston (yeah a roof, but it still gets damn hot)Arizona (same as Houston)Texas (Rangers)Florida (Marlins)Baltimore And im sure im missing a few. I just cant take heat and humidity like that. But im a West Coast guy, im used to the mellow weather. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Cookie-cutter this: As a lifelong Pirate fan, I gotta admit they got the new stadium right. Unfortunately I've only been to one game (sat on the first level, first base side, about 10 rows up), but when I'm in the area visiting my in-laws and can get to a game, I'll definitely go again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Washington (especially considering that their AAA team plays in an open air stadium in New Orleans)St. LouisChicago (i think, never been there in July)Houston (yeah a roof, but it still gets damn hot)Arizona (same as Houston)Texas (Rangers)Florida (Marlins)Baltimore Wow, you NorCal people are wusses. "I'm sorry, Mr. Jocketty, I cannot play for your Cardinals.""I'm sorry to hear that. What influenced your decision?""It's muggy out there!"Guess what. It's hot and humid in the majority of this country during the summer. Know why? Because it's summer. If you honestly have such a low tolerance for heat and humidity, maybe baseball isn't for you. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 You know, it should be cooler in Busch III because they can actually get some airflow going now... On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 True, but St. Louis is still miserably hot in the dead of summer. Still, it's nothing that tough Midwesterners can't handle. After those winters, we'll take the humidity. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDwas Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 My two gripes about Comerica:1. IT'S HUGE!2. Take a look at that pic. Why is the scoreboard overlapped by the upper deck? That has driven me nuts since they built it.IMO, the five best ballparks:1. Wrigley Field2. Citizens Bank Park3. PETCO Park4. Pac Bell/SBC/AT&T Park5. Oriole Park at Camden YardsIMO, the five worst ballparks:1. Veterans Stadium2. Metrodome3. Olympic Stadium4. SkyDome/Rogers Centre5. Fenway Park Tomorrow's just your future yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brinkeguthrie Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 If this ain't the greatest layout in MLB, I don't know what is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronChefShark Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 DID YOU IGNORE EVERYTHING ELSE I SAID. We all keep trying. ZING! US state flag concepts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 IronChefShark contributes. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 What annoyed me early on with this retro ballpark craze, perhaps still now, was merely the dimensions of the field. Some of the those stadiums had someting in common. One side of the outfield has a big wall, anywhere between 15-25 feet high that is a short distance away, has a scoreboard on the wall and 8-foot high walls everywhere else (I'm just generalising here...). Other than that, I don't have much gripe with all the new stadiums in a design aspect. There are more pressing question about stadiums? Is it in the right location? Does it blend in with the surrounding architecture? does it truly bring the busniesses that proponents of the stadium said the stadium would bring? and do fans come back on a consistent basis? I think this cookie-cutter reference is more about new-ballpark fatigue than anything else. I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moser316 Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 IronChefShark contributes. I would comment, but I'm already hiding out from the irony police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 Hey, I contribute. I don't follow people around taking weak potshots at them ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wman Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 I've been lucky enough that my job or vacation has taken me to many of the new stadiums over the past couple of years. I can safely say that there ARE cookie cutter new parks out there. My view (only parks I've been to in person)Cookie CutterSeattle--Was really disappointed in this park. This has the old feel exterior stuff but the inside didn't do much for me. Did go to an open roof game, so I was not biased by a closed dome.Baltimore--Only because it was the mold. Very nice parkPhiladelphia--I am a Phillies fan, but other than Ashburn Alley, this field's more or less the same as the rest.Arizona--Same stuff with a pool in right-center.Atlanta--I liked it fine, but it is a standard cookie cutter retro park.Not Cookie Cutter--Pittsburgh--Was said best in this thread. It's the best new park in the majors.Houston--I really liked the park a lot. Went to a game in late August, so the dome was closed. But love the feel--it felt very open and bright in spite of the roof.San Francisco--Gets the "not" vote because of that awesome view and the ability to stand and watch a game under the scoreboard in right field. I thought that was really cool. Would be better off Cookie CutterChicago (AL)--Just missed the retro bell ringing. Not the worst, but has that stuck in a big dish feel the Vet and Three Rivers used to have.Tampa Bay--It's all been said, but it's the worst park I've ever attended a game at. I'd rather sit in 90 degree heat and 80% humidity than be stuck one more time in that tomb. It was the absolute worst baseball atmosphere ever, and the saddest part is that I think the really tried to make it something that was tolerable. Sadly, it really could have been even worse. And on a side note, the most expensive prices for T-shirts and hats ever. Please, you're the stinkin D-Rays, I'm not paying $30 for a T-shirt.Toronto--Amazing this was state of the art 16 years ago. Another tomb--I never had to be concerned with how loud I talked at a ballgame until a Saturday afternoon at SkyDome. Dome was open that day also, so did not have to deal with the gloom of a closed in stadium either. Bring back the Whale! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 Do you really think, sitting in the stands, that the BOB (or whatever the hell they're calling it these days) and Camden Yards feel like the same park? The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Mexico Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 Do you really think, sitting in the stands, that the BOB (or whatever the hell they're calling it these days) and Camden Yards feel like the same park? Post over. You used to hold meTell me that I was the bestAnything in this world I wantI could possesAll that made me wantWas all that I can getIn order to surviveGotta learn to live with regrets-President Carter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meangreen Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 The only thing worse than the inside of Tropicana Field is the outside. Geritol should have purchased the naming rights. Who in their right mind would have purchased this tractor pull palace and freaky franchise? Fred Gehrke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElwoodCuse Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 retro by the numbers. i can't agree. each has a distinct personality. all ballparks are defined by certain parameters, and you can't escape those. but they all have distinctive features. like, you can't hit one into the water in any other park in the majors, I believe. Nope. Home plate at PNC Park in Pittsburgh is within 450 feet of the Allegheny River at its closest point. I can't remember if someone's dunked one in the river there yet, but I'd think it's entirely possible. I think it's a little closer than 450 but it is a long shot. I'm pretty sure only Daryle Ward has done it more than once (once with the Astros and once with the Pirates), and not many guys have done it at all, even if you count bounces.I'm sure whatever stats exist about this will be beaten into our heads during the home run derby in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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