Burning River Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 Hi All! Glad to be back. Sometimes this page gets blocked while I'm at work, there are times it does not.Quick Question. I recieved a Browns Pocket Schedule yesterday. There is a logo on it that reads:6019462006It had an old helmet on the left, then a new helmet on the right. There is a brown/orange checker pattern at the top and bottom. Is this considered one of the new markings that the team will be using as mentioned in the "On Field Changes" topic? It just seems very......plain... and uninspired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadSeed84 Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 60th anniversary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee. Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 Can it really be considered a 60th anniversary if there was a time that the Browns technically didn't exist? Welcome to DrunjFlix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopard88 Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 I believe the NFL considers the franchise to always have been in existence, even though it took a hiatus from fielding a team for a few years. Another fiction sort of like the one that says the Ravens franchise didn't exist prior to 1996. Most Liked Content of the Day -- February 15, 2017, August 21, 2017, August 22, 2017 ///// Proud Winner of the CCSLC Post of the Day Award -- April 8, 2008 Originator of the Upside Down Sarcasm Smilie -- November 1, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 I smell bitter Ravens fan! ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopard88 Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 Actually, I don't care at all. I was just pointing out that the NFL had to create its own reality regarding both franchises if it wanted to pretend the Ravens didn't exist before 1996. I am the first to say that Jim Brown should be the Cleveland Browns all time leading rusher, not William Green (or whoever it has been since 1999). However, the Browns/Ravens franchise is the only one with which this situation was created. The Colts, Rams, Oilers, etc. brought their old records with them when they moved. Most Liked Content of the Day -- February 15, 2017, August 21, 2017, August 22, 2017 ///// Proud Winner of the CCSLC Post of the Day Award -- April 8, 2008 Originator of the Upside Down Sarcasm Smilie -- November 1, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 The Browns aren't the only club to have "suspended operations." It's happened several times in the NFL's history, albeit not recently.The Rams didn't play in the 1943 season.The Pittsburgh Steelers and the Philadelphia Eagles played as one combined team (the famous "Steagles") in 1943.The following year, the Steelers and the the Chicago Cardinals combined for the 1944 season.I think the Browns/Ravens situation is more analagous to the 1979 the Buffalo Braves/Boston Celtics franchise swap. But "fiction"? Only to embittered Browns fans who wanted a pre-made history for their club. I would have thought that winning a World Championship of your own would have sated the desire to claim Cleveland's. And speaking of bitter fans, I have my own gripe against the NFL's official historians. I want to scream when I see Packers merchandise labeled "Est. 1921".... The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooter Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 I think the Browns/Ravens situation is more analagous to the 1979 the Buffalo Braves/Boston Celtics franchise swap. Correct me if I'm wrong (and I am sure that you will ), but didn't those teams just swap owners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 Hey, I never said the analogy was perfect.... The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopard88 Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 I would have thought that winning a World Championship of your own would have sated the desire to claim Cleveland's. I'm not claiming Cleveland's championships. I don't want them. I was just pointing out that the NFL handled this situation differently than every other franchise move. Most Liked Content of the Day -- February 15, 2017, August 21, 2017, August 22, 2017 ///// Proud Winner of the CCSLC Post of the Day Award -- April 8, 2008 Originator of the Upside Down Sarcasm Smilie -- November 1, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 That just proves Cleveland had better lawyers. Seriously, though - if the Cleveland Browns were treated differently, it's because the relocation was especially shady, given the long history of fan support. Perhaps alone among relocations, it was solely because Cleveland wouldn't build them a new stadium.That, and the threats of lawsuits. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopard88 Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 That just proves Cleveland had better lawyers. My legal career was young then. Most Liked Content of the Day -- February 15, 2017, August 21, 2017, August 22, 2017 ///// Proud Winner of the CCSLC Post of the Day Award -- April 8, 2008 Originator of the Upside Down Sarcasm Smilie -- November 1, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning River Posted May 8, 2006 Author Share Posted May 8, 2006 Geez!! Pantone, HELP!!All I wanted to know is if this is one of the "markings" that the team will be using this year. I know it's an Anniversary logo... and I know the debate of:"Is it 60 years or 61 years?" will come up. Due to the years listed.It's just so lame to be "official"....It was mentioned that along with the new uniforms, the team wll introduce a few markings. Is this one of them? Or are there others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 You know what will be terrible? When the Bills are moved to Los Angeles, given a new identity and are never reffered to again, outside of Scott Norwood. At least there was always the possibility the Browns would return. Once the Bills disappear, they'll always be gone. It's a sad day I know will come. And what will be left of Western New York? The 2006 Stanely Cup Champion Sabres and a bunch of crummy minor league teams. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 I hope it doesn't happen. If it does get close, start the works. Keep the Bills name and history where it belongs. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawlmerOreos Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 I wish the NFL (and all leagues) would group history with the CITY and not the franchise.The Ravens' history should include the Baltimore Colts history. That's Baltimore's NFL heritage. That way, it's link more to the local fanbase.Just my 2 cents. Frank Creative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakfu Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 The other way to look at it is..........................The Ravens are a spin-off of the Browns. Browns = All in the Family, Ravens = the Jeffersons.and as the Browns bastard offspring...the Ravens super bowl belongs to Cleveland ultimately! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted May 9, 2006 Share Posted May 9, 2006 Ray Lewis is George Jefferson on a bad day. A REALLY bad day. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gueman Posted May 9, 2006 Share Posted May 9, 2006 The other way to look at it is..........................The Ravens are a spin-off of the Browns. Browns = All in the Family, Ravens = the Jeffersons.and as the Browns bastard offspring...the Ravens super bowl belongs to Cleveland ultimately! OK and with that logic all the New York Yankees World Championships belong in Baltimore, and the Lakers titles belong in Minnesota. Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. P. J. O'Rourke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted May 9, 2006 Share Posted May 9, 2006 If its from the Cleveland Browns then it is an offiical logo. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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