random_ax Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 I'm in a fantasy football league (we're so happy for you) and my league actually uses logos and cities like my team is the Chicago Condors (which I "borrowed" from the defunct womens' basketball team of the same name). I don't think there's a problem there because I'm not suing it in a money-making endeavor (especially the way my team has finished the last few seasons). However I noticed a baseball team using a modified version of it which makes me wonder if (A) anyoen can use the logo if the team it was designed for ceases to exist or ( a new team must pay the original designer of the logo to use it again.Anyone know?Here'sthe two logos...http://www.logoserver.com/basketball/ChicagoCondors.GIFhttp://clevelandcondors.dynu.com/icons/condors_logo.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewharrington Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Stop capitalizing your topic titles.Signed,The World I still don't have a website, but I have a dribbble now! http://dribbble.com/andyharry [The postings on this site are my own and do not necessarily represent the position, strategy or opinions of adidas and/or its brands.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patsox Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Dear tempest, Stop being anal.Signed, The rest of the world.random_ax, just don't try and profit off the reproductions or let it be known too widely you reproduced them. That's all I can suggest because its all I know dude. Just trying to be helpful Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred T. Jane Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Stop capitalizing your topic titles.Signed,The World Word.All I can say is do what you think is best. People here will say yea or nay soon enough. I'd say go and make your own logo if for no other reason than to improve your design skills! [Croatia National Team Manager Slavan] Bilic then went on to explain how Croatia's success can partially be put down to his progressive man-management techniques. "Sometimes I lie in the bed with my players. I go to the room of Vedran Corluka and Luka Modric when I see they have a problem and I lie in bed with them and we talk for 10 minutes." Maybe Capello could try getting through to his players this way too? Although how far he'd get with Joe Cole jumping up and down on the mattress and Rooney demanding to be read his favourite page from The Very Hungry Caterpillar is open to question. --The Guardian's Fiver, 08 September 2008 Attention: In order to obtain maximum enjoyment from your stay at the CCSLC, the reader is advised that the above post may contain large amounts of sarcasm, dry humour, or statements which should not be taken in any true sort of seriousness. As a result, the above poster absolves himself of any and all blame in the event that a forum user responds to the aforementioned post without taking the previous notice into account. Thank you for your cooperation, and enjoy your stay at the CCSLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordie_delini Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 CAPITALS IMPLY URGENCY!!!I sensed no urgency on this post; capitals are not necessary.it's not typically couth to use other people's copyrighted designs, but it's generally accepted for fantasy logos. and if you're using the logo of a defunct team, you can't claim that another team is "stealing" your logo - you yourself are technically "stealing" a logo and have no legal claim to it. ownership rights are variant depending on the team and league and designer - sometimes a league retains ownership of design work if a team goes belly up, sometimes its the designer. in any case, you using it for a fantasy logo have no claim on the logo whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fonz Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Those guys are right, no need for caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Caps? Who cares? He only used them in part of his topic's question. I didn't even notice the topic had capitals, really... Granted, caps can be annoying when an entire long article is written in them; but people have obviously gotten WAY too anal about this. As far as the question is concerned, I don't know for sure but I would assume that an obsolete league's logos would often be considered "fair use" and therefore open to being used. Naturally each case could be different, as rightholders may still own the logos in some cases. And even if a team has been history for a while the team or franchise, if it still exists, may still own it.As long as you aren't profiting from using it (e.g., selling shirts using it, etc.) there are probably many cases where you could get permission. So any of a number of things could be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Dear tempest, Stop being anal.Signed, The rest of the world.random_ax, just don't try and profit off the reproductions or let it be known too widely you reproduced them. That's all I can suggest because its all I know dude. Just trying to be helpful Peace Dear Patsox,Edit your post before you get flammed at.Signed,The other rest of the world! On 4/10/2017 at 3:05 PM, Rollins Man said: what the hell is ccslc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred T. Jane Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Dear Patsox,Edit your post before you get flammed at.Signed,The other rest of the world! Dear brassbonanza97,Stop writing letters in response to posts that are three days old.Warmest regards,People with Common Sense [Croatia National Team Manager Slavan] Bilic then went on to explain how Croatia's success can partially be put down to his progressive man-management techniques. "Sometimes I lie in the bed with my players. I go to the room of Vedran Corluka and Luka Modric when I see they have a problem and I lie in bed with them and we talk for 10 minutes." Maybe Capello could try getting through to his players this way too? Although how far he'd get with Joe Cole jumping up and down on the mattress and Rooney demanding to be read his favourite page from The Very Hungry Caterpillar is open to question. --The Guardian's Fiver, 08 September 2008 Attention: In order to obtain maximum enjoyment from your stay at the CCSLC, the reader is advised that the above post may contain large amounts of sarcasm, dry humour, or statements which should not be taken in any true sort of seriousness. As a result, the above poster absolves himself of any and all blame in the event that a forum user responds to the aforementioned post without taking the previous notice into account. Thank you for your cooperation, and enjoy your stay at the CCSLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Dear Patsox,Edit your post before you get flammed at.Signed,The other rest of the world! Dear brassbonanza97,Stop writing letters in response to posts that are three days old.Warmest regards,People with Common Sense Uh, I do believe the person above me posted the same day in this thread. Next time look. On 4/10/2017 at 3:05 PM, Rollins Man said: what the hell is ccslc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred T. Jane Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 QUOTE (patsox#1 @ Tuesday, July 18th, 2006 - 18:12:58)And what was yesterday again?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Days_of_the_week <--- This may be of assistance to you. [Croatia National Team Manager Slavan] Bilic then went on to explain how Croatia's success can partially be put down to his progressive man-management techniques. "Sometimes I lie in the bed with my players. I go to the room of Vedran Corluka and Luka Modric when I see they have a problem and I lie in bed with them and we talk for 10 minutes." Maybe Capello could try getting through to his players this way too? Although how far he'd get with Joe Cole jumping up and down on the mattress and Rooney demanding to be read his favourite page from The Very Hungry Caterpillar is open to question. --The Guardian's Fiver, 08 September 2008 Attention: In order to obtain maximum enjoyment from your stay at the CCSLC, the reader is advised that the above post may contain large amounts of sarcasm, dry humour, or statements which should not be taken in any true sort of seriousness. As a result, the above poster absolves himself of any and all blame in the event that a forum user responds to the aforementioned post without taking the previous notice into account. Thank you for your cooperation, and enjoy your stay at the CCSLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mings Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Fred you always crack me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Actually, no.dmc bumped this topic on Friday, July 21st, 2006 - 22:19:21This was the first time I have seen this topic. On 4/10/2017 at 3:05 PM, Rollins Man said: what the hell is ccslc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred T. Jane Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Actually, no.dmc bumped this topic on Friday, July 21st, 2006 - 22:19:21This was the first time I have seen this topic. What can I say... [Croatia National Team Manager Slavan] Bilic then went on to explain how Croatia's success can partially be put down to his progressive man-management techniques. "Sometimes I lie in the bed with my players. I go to the room of Vedran Corluka and Luka Modric when I see they have a problem and I lie in bed with them and we talk for 10 minutes." Maybe Capello could try getting through to his players this way too? Although how far he'd get with Joe Cole jumping up and down on the mattress and Rooney demanding to be read his favourite page from The Very Hungry Caterpillar is open to question. --The Guardian's Fiver, 08 September 2008 Attention: In order to obtain maximum enjoyment from your stay at the CCSLC, the reader is advised that the above post may contain large amounts of sarcasm, dry humour, or statements which should not be taken in any true sort of seriousness. As a result, the above poster absolves himself of any and all blame in the event that a forum user responds to the aforementioned post without taking the previous notice into account. Thank you for your cooperation, and enjoy your stay at the CCSLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Yeah ok whatever. On 4/10/2017 at 3:05 PM, Rollins Man said: what the hell is ccslc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mings Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Yeah ok whatever. What's the matter brass, can't take it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Yeah ok whatever. What's the matter brass, can't take it? No, it's the fact that I don't want to continue fighting like a 5 year old. And I don't appreciate the fact that you are egging this on. I honestly can't remember doing anything to you. On 4/10/2017 at 3:05 PM, Rollins Man said: what the hell is ccslc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mings Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Yeah ok whatever. What's the matter brass, can't take it? No, it's the fact that I don't want to continue fighting like a 5 year old. And I don't appreciate the fact that you are egging this on. I honestly can't remember doing anything to you. Please explain how I am egging this on. I just asked a simple question and said that Fred is quite funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenomenal Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Stop sending letters to eachother in the middle of a topic!I'm getting confused... This post has been edited by zer0dotcom on some time in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Alright guys, let's take a step back and remember that this is really not worth getting all hot and bothered over. The capitals have been edited now.random_ax, we'd appreciate if you refrained from capitalizing your topic titles and striving to use proper grammar and spelling in your posts. It just helps maintain a level of decorum and sanity in the often bizarre world of internet forums. We don't ask for perfection, we just ask that you put in an effort.As far as the rest of you go, remember, a harsh word stirs up anger, but a kind word turns away wrath. Let it go, and don't escalate the situation just 'cause someone said something that annoyed you.As far as fantasy logos go... speaking from personal experience, I don't like it when fantasy teams use my logo without prior permission. In many cases, this is how the logo gets perceived as being public domain (when in reality all the logos on my site are explicitly protected, and where appropriate, credited to other original owners).When it comes to professional teams, rarely is there any doubt to whom the logo actually belongs (no person with half a brain would mistake the, say, Atlanta Falcons logo for being a piece of clipart), so they usually won't show much concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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