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My advice would be to do nothing more on this. From reading this thread, I gathered that:

1. The web design instructor knows that this logo is Hawaii's.

2. The school administration knows, either from you, the instructor, or anonymous e-mails, that the logo is Hawaii's.

3. The general student body, at least those who care about these things, realize that the logo is Hawaii's.

Let this go through the proper channels now. The adminstration should know enough to do the right thing. If they don't, and you continue to push this, you risk looking self-serving and petty.

By the way, is this Michael Selby a teacher or a student? If he's a teacher, then he's a jerk. Isn't the purpose of a design class to encourage students to, um, come up with their own designs? Allowing a student to call something ripped off his own is wrong and shouldn't be allowed. If he's a student, he's still a jerk, but I would cut him a little slack due to youth and inexperience in dealing with such matters.

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I don't know if anyone's noticed, but the school website has a new logo.

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yeah but some of the links have the old logo. It's still better than not fixing it up.

Is that a logo made by you Chief?

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Miami charging a school district $1000 for its helmet is absurd....

Well it's not just the football helmets, Union uses the logo on just about everything, so I'm not shedding any tears for them losing just $1000 a year in the deal. Union has been selling merchandise with "The U" on it without (and now with) Miami's permission for years, plus Union is probably the richest school district in Oklahoma, and maybe one of the richest in the whole country, so I'm sure they can definitely afford it. They probably make up the royalty charges alone in merchandise sales at the Union team store located in their new $22 million basketball arena.

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Thats at a High School? :blink:

Seriously...cripes!

Isn't Oklahoma football country? Their stadium's gotta be like the Big House or something if that's the case. My H.S. gym had like 15 rows of bleachers at most. This one has a g'durn Jumbotron!

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JQH%20Arena%20w.%20bball%20court2.jpg

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Wait, so you're telling me that a Division I conference plays its conference tournament in a high school gym? You've got to be kidding.

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Wait, so you're telling me that a Division I conference plays its conference tournament in a high school gym? You've got to be kidding.

Yeah no $#*!...

Jeez..what'd they do to be able to afford amentities like THAT? Our gym, when I was in high school--we were lucky if bricks and metal wasn't fallin on our heads during the game. Bleachers? yeah--we had SOME--the wooden pull-out variety that half the time DIDN'T WANNA PULL OUT. The floor? Hah! We couldn't afford paint on that thing if someone GRANTED us the money to do it. (But, then again, the whole high school WAS a converted JAIL for Christ sakes, so there you go.)

Spoiled rich brats!!! (just a lil bitterness seeping through here...and I've been out of high school for over 6 years now!)

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Miami charging a school district $1000 for its helmet is absurd....

Well it's not just the football helmets, Union uses the logo on just about everything, so I'm not shedding any tears for them losing just $1000 a year in the deal. Union has been selling merchandise with "The U" on it without (and now with) Miami's permission for years, plus Union is probably the richest school district in Oklahoma, and maybe one of the richest in the whole country, so I'm sure they can definitely afford it. They probably make up the royalty charges alone in merchandise sales at the Union team store located in their new $22 million basketball arena.

JQH%20Arena%20w.%20bball%20court2.jpg

Arena%20during%20BA%20game.jpg

Thats at a High School? :blink:

Seriously...cripes!

Isn't Oklahoma football country? Their stadium's gotta be like the Big House or something if that's the case. My H.S. gym had like 15 rows of bleachers at most. This one has a g'durn Jumbotron!

Yep, Oklahoma is definitely football country, and that's one of the contributing factors for why Tulsa area schools such as Union, Jenks, and Broken Arrow are so big and have so much disposable income. A couple decades ago, the larger high schools in the Oklahoma City area (Edmond, Norman, Moore, Putnam City) decided to spin off smaller high schools to better meet the needs of their students (creating schools like Edmond Santa Fe, Norman North, Westmoore, PC-West). The Tulsa school districts chose not to split its schools, and one of the main reasons for their decision was to establish dominance in football. If one were to look at the history of state championships in Oklahoma, they'd notice that a shift happens in the early 80s where Tulsa schools start to dominate. Since 1993, only two times has there been a team not named Union or Jenks win the 6A state championship in football.

Union-Tuttle Stadium has been one of the best stadiums in Oklahoma for a number of years, but the addition of the UMAC (the basketball arena) makes the whole place look even more impressive. The UMAC could very well be the third-best basketball arena in the state, behind Gallagher-Iba Arena at OSU and the Ford Center in OKC (it's definitely the best in Tulsa, including the arenas at the U of Tulsa and Oral Roberts). It's crazy that a high school has facilities that many D-1 colleges would love to have.

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6A Football? I think PA only goes up to 4A. That sports complex is downright amazing. It practically looks like a pro stadium/arena.

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yeah but some of the links have the old logo. It's still better than not fixing it up.

Is that a logo made by you Chief?

Yeah, but I had no idea they were going to use it. I think they need a vector of it because it's kinda pixelated. Weird, I thought Selby said they were making a new one, I guess this is a temporary replacement.

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Miami charging a school district $1000 for its helmet is absurd....

Well it's not just the football helmets, Union uses the logo on just about everything, so I'm not shedding any tears for them losing just $1000 a year in the deal. Union has been selling merchandise with "The U" on it without (and now with) Miami's permission for years, plus Union is probably the richest school district in Oklahoma, and maybe one of the richest in the whole country, so I'm sure they can definitely afford it. They probably make up the royalty charges alone in merchandise sales at the Union team store located in their new $22 million basketball arena.

JQH%20Arena%20w.%20bball%20court2.jpg

Arena%20during%20BA%20game.jpg

5,662 capacity for a High School arena WOW. That is more than three times the amount of kids in my large public school. Orchard Park High School (my school) has like 1,800 students, Our football stadium is just a set of bleachers that hold like 1,000. Yikes, and a VIDEO scoreboard. Our taxes are bad, they must be horrendus in Tulsa, or spend all there money on a basketball arena.

We have our own unique logo too NY141273127.gif

Hope this works out for you chief.

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Well, well, well.....look what I received in my email this morning!!!

"Thank you for informing me of the logo on my football website. Yes, it was re-colored right here in our very own webteam class. As the main purpose of our site is for the students of Hays High, it?s always good to have someone remind us to be professional and consider the rest of the world as potential viewers of our site. Currently we are designing our own logo for the football site which will be posted very soon so you can ?once again smile.? However, I do not feel that you will be able to sleep easy at night knowing the other schools are committing this same atrocious violation of the law. Here are four other school potentially infracting the law with the use of logos on their school website. We will be informing them of the likelihood of you contacting them very soon and asking for a similar apology. Keep up the good work in keeping our internet safe!

Sincerely,

Michael Selby

Hays High Webteam Editor

Included are websites of the schools and the corresponding sites showing where their logo was taken from.

Claflin High School

http://www.claflinschools.org/

http://www.sportslogos.net/logo.php?lo=2508

Woodrow Wilson High School and Garden City High School

http://www.wilsonhs.com/pageone.php

http://highschool.gardencity.k12.ny.us/

http://www.sportslogos.net/logo.php?lo=2625

Bennington Public Schools

http://www.benningtonschools.org/RunScript...alendar.asp&ap=

http://www.sportslogos.net/logo.php?lo=98g...rrvjzxph8"

hmm...I say contact Hawaii and let them sort it out :D

You're totally missing the point. Yes other schools may be infringing on a logo, but in your case you have some kid trying to pass the stuff off as his own design. Come on now, please tell me you realize this.

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If it makes you feel better Chief, this joker wouldn't even make it in the graphic design program at KU the way you describe him...

I'll give them props for having a flash site, but everything else there is horrid looking.

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6A Football? I think PA only goes up to 4A. That sports complex is downright amazing. It practically looks like a pro stadium/arena.

Apples and oranges. One state's As don't necessarily mean the same as another's.

Just to stay on topic, Union HS in the Clarion area of Western PA also uses the Miami "U" and uniform template (the ones before the most recent ones.)

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6A Football? I think PA only goes up to 4A. That sports complex is downright amazing. It practically looks like a pro stadium/arena.

Apples and oranges. One state's As don't necessarily mean the same as another's.

Just to stay on topic, Union HS in the Clarion area of Western PA also uses the Miami "U" and uniform template (the ones before the most recent ones.)

That is not on topic either. Lets now get back to chief's problem

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Yeah, UMAC is massive.... before I moved out of the country, I went to a pro wrestling event there... was impossible to believe it's a high school basketball gym.

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Well, well, well.....look what I received in my email this morning!!!

"Thank you for informing me of the logo on my football website. Yes, it was re-colored right here in our very own webteam class. As the main purpose of our site is for the students of Hays High, it?s always good to have someone remind us to be professional and consider the rest of the world as potential viewers of our site. Currently we are designing our own logo for the football site which will be posted very soon so you can ?once again smile.? However, I do not feel that you will be able to sleep easy at night knowing the other schools are committing this same atrocious violation of the law. Here are four other school potentially infracting the law with the use of logos on their school website. We will be informing them of the likelihood of you contacting them very soon and asking for a similar apology. Keep up the good work in keeping our internet safe!

        Sincerely,

        Michael Selby

        Hays High Webteam Editor

Included are websites of the schools and the corresponding sites showing where their logo was taken from.

Claflin High School

http://www.claflinschools.org/

http://www.sportslogos.net/logo.php?lo=2508

Woodrow Wilson High School and Garden City High School

http://www.wilsonhs.com/pageone.php

http://highschool.gardencity.k12.ny.us/

http://www.sportslogos.net/logo.php?lo=2625

Bennington Public Schools

http://www.benningtonschools.org/RunScript...alendar.asp&ap=

http://www.sportslogos.net/logo.php?lo=98g...rrvjzxph8"

hmm...I say contact Hawaii and let them sort it out :D

You're totally missing the point. Yes other schools may be infringing on a logo, but in your case you have some kid trying to pass the stuff off as his own design. Come on now, please tell me you realize this.

who are you talking to?

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Well, looks like the problem has been taken care of website wise. Has the kid been given any sort of punishment or reprimand for it? If it's still used in other places or literature I would still consider persuing action from U of Hawaii, give the kid a scare! :shocked:

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Well, looks like the problem has been taken care of website wise. Has the kid been given any sort of punishment or reprimand for it? If it's still used in other places or literature I would still consider persuing action from U of Hawaii, give the kid a scare! :shocked:

No he isn't being punished, which I disagree with. He plagarized in a class, there should be consequences.

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That Union H.S. arena is new and fancy, but it doesn't compare size-wise to the high school arenas in central Indiana. Even though the population of the cities is only around 40,000, the 2 biggest high school arenas in the US are in

New Castle (seating 9,325) and Anderson (8,996). If I remember correctly, there are a few more in the state that approach 7-8,000 seating capacity.

The New Castle Fieldhouse, which is built mostly underground:

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Those Hoosiers love their high school basketball.

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