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Getting ARod was the worst trade the Yankees ever made this guy is such a loser hes an anchor in the playoffs, and it hurt the Yankees fleixbillity made them rely on the home and took something speacil off the team

This article make some great points

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/met...,5872007.column

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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2617224

Report: Torre won't survive Yanks' collapse, to be fired

ESPN.com news services

Heads were likely to roll after the Yankees were eliminated from the postseason by the Tigers, but the opening odds were on Alex Rodriguez going first, not Joe Torre.

According to the New York Daily News, however, the popular New York manager will be fired unless he decides to resign first to save face. Sources say former Yankees player and manager Lou Piniella will be owner George Steinbrenner's choice to replace Torre.

After winning the World Series in four of his first five seasons, Torre has weathered many storms since then, but Saturday's 8-3 loss left him emotional as he pondered his future in the Bronx.

"We felt pretty good about ourselves," he told the Daily News. "But again, that's something for (general manager Brian Cashman) and I and other people to talk about. But right now, it's just &" and choking back tears, he concluded "& it's just tough."

Cashman and most of the front office employees are expected to keep their jobs, the Daily News reports.

Piniella has been rumored to be in contention for the open positions with the Washington Nationals and Chicago Cubs. He last managed the Tampa Bay Devil Rays to a fifth-place finish in 2005. Piniella began his managerial career with the Yankees in 1986. That team finished second in the AL East, the best result of his three seasons in the Bronx.

Piniella went on to win the World Series as skipper of the Cincinnati Reds in 1988, however. After three years with the Reds, he managed the Seattle Mariners from 1993-2002 and the D-Rays for the next three seasons.

Torre has won more than 1,000 games as manager of the Yankees, but after beating the Mets in the 2000 World Series, the Bronx Bombers have fallen short of always high expectations despite the highest payroll in baseball.

Torre has one season and $7 million left on his contract.

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If Joe gets canned then Steinbrenner gets what he deserves. Will Pinella become the next Billy?

Well this is his 3rd tenure of coruse his last tenure was in 1988

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Stupid, stupid move by the Yanks. Torre is as classy (and fricken' good) a manager as you'll find in baseball. If they think Piniella is -- by any means -- an upgrade, they're nuts. I'm a Red Sox fan and I have nothing but respect for Joe Torre. The Yankees are making a big mistake here.

If they need to change things up for next year, fine, but don't fix what ain't broken. Torre wasn't the problem this year, nor has he been during the last six seasons.

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This is Bull :censored:!

Joe Torre isn't and wasn't the problem the problem is the baseball people aren't running the team anymore. It's now surprise that the foundation of the Yankees Dynasty was bult while Steinbrenner was suspended. Now he and his yes man Brian Cashman run the team and it has been a disaster. Joe Torre didn't sign Jason Giambi, Alex Rodriguez, Javier Vazquez, Kevin Brown, Jared Wright, Kyle Farnsworth, Rondell White, Tom Gordon, Gary Sheffield and let Andy Pettitte walk among other decisions. This team got away from the approach of the Yankees Championship team and that falls on the shoulders of management not Joe Torre.

I like Lou Pinella but he will only do worse. His style will not work with this team. It's going to be the 1980's all over again until the team fianlly ends up back in the hands of the baseball people in New York not Steinbrenners people in Tampa.

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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2617224

Report: Torre won't survive Yanks' collapse, to be fired

ESPN.com news services

Heads were likely to roll after the Yankees were eliminated from the postseason by the Tigers, but the opening odds were on Alex Rodriguez going first, not Joe Torre.

According to the New York Daily News, however, the popular New York manager will be fired unless he decides to resign first to save face. Sources say former Yankees player and manager Lou Piniella will be owner George Steinbrenner's choice to replace Torre.

After winning the World Series in four of his first five seasons, Torre has weathered many storms since then, but Saturday's 8-3 loss left him emotional as he pondered his future in the Bronx.

"We felt pretty good about ourselves," he told the Daily News. "But again, that's something for (general manager Brian Cashman) and I and other people to talk about. But right now, it's just &" and choking back tears, he concluded "& it's just tough."

Cashman and most of the front office employees are expected to keep their jobs, the Daily News reports.

Piniella has been rumored to be in contention for the open positions with the Washington Nationals and Chicago Cubs. He last managed the Tampa Bay Devil Rays to a fifth-place finish in 2005. Piniella began his managerial career with the Yankees in 1986. That team finished second in the AL East, the best result of his three seasons in the Bronx.

Piniella went on to win the World Series as skipper of the Cincinnati Reds in 1988, however. After three years with the Reds, he managed the Seattle Mariners from 1993-2002 and the D-Rays for the next three seasons.

Torre has won more than 1,000 games as manager of the Yankees, but after beating the Mets in the 2000 World Series, the Bronx Bombers have fallen short of always high expectations despite the highest payroll in baseball.

Torre has one season and $7 million left on his contract.

As stated above, Piniella went on to win the World Series in 1988. That is a huge error. It was 1990, not 1988. This is why I have zero faith in the so-called "news media". Anybody remember "DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN"?

Regards,

Bill McD.

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As stated above, Piniella went on to win the World Series in 1988. That is a huge error. It was 1990, not 1988. This is why I have zero faith in the so-called "news media". Anybody remember "DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN"?

Regards,

Bill McD.

"Dewey defeats Truman" was fiction, however. Pinella winning the World Series wasn't. So it was a typo.

I also saw the report on ESPN. Why would they report "false" news? Certainly not for ratings.

But it makes sense. Ol' George is going back to a hot-headed manager (though Lou pales in comparison to some of the tirades I saw of the great Ear Weaver :)).

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I guess somebody had to be the fallman for their failures. Too bad it was Joe Torre.

But, I don't see why hot headed old Lou can do any better. It's like George wants to see a total implosion of his team.

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Y'know as a Red Sox fan I have to giggle like an idiot. Firing Joe Torre for what ails the Yankees is like amputating one's arm for stubbing your toe- one has nothing to do with the other.

The problem they have now, is one they've been slowly creating over the years and one they will probably take years to fix, and it has little to do with Torre.

The Yankees have been taking advantage for having the largest bankroll and no salery cap by essentially signing the biggest group of All-stars they can get their mitts on. In return they have all but gutted their farm system using it for little more than trade fodder. Over the years instead of developing players they would eventually need to replace their ever aging and ever expensive lineup they instead have used them to get slightly younger and quite often more expensive players. The luxury tax they now have to pay doesn't help either. Steinbrenner would gladly pay it if he were raising banners- he's not so it becomes yet another bane.

If they had bitten the bullet just a handfull of years ago and elected a few years of developemental mediocraty, I should think they'd have a mix of stars young (and cheaper) up and coming stars.

Torre managed his best to make a team of superstars have chemistry where often there was none. Chemistry is something that developes when players all work together for a few year- its something you really cannot purchase. To his credit most other managers would have succumbed to the tsunami of egos in the Yanks' clubhouse. So the fact that he makes it all work year in and year out is a feat within itself.

The roster needs a serious culling and if the Yanks were really serious about being contenders again they should honestly consider not throwing money at the situation. I'd have sooner had canned Cashman over Torre. But since they didn't I'd say Red Sox and Blue Jays fans have something to look forward to because Lou Piniella is a serious step backwards in my opinion, especially if they continue with their signing and lack of developing new players.

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George simply wants the attention of baseball now that his team is eliminated.

He has a serious hard on for Pinella.

Torre should be the Yankee manager until he decides to step down.

When will George realize that no other person will/can manage the Yankees as well as Torre has?

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If this comes true, it will be done because George is fairly certain that Joe doesnt want to manage very much longer and doesn't want to lose Lou to another team (I don't know why).

I agree, Joe isnt the problem. Pitching and clutch hitting was the downfall.

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Y'know as a Red Sox fan I have to giggle like an idiot. Firing Joe Torre for what ails the Yankees is like amputating one's arm for stubbing your toe- one has nothing to do with the other.

The problem they have now, is one they've been slowly creating over the years and one they will probably take years to fix, and it has little to do with Torre.

The Yankees have been taking advantage for having the largest bankroll and no salery cap by essentially signing the biggest group of All-stars they can get their mitts on. In return they have all but gutted their farm system using it for little more than trade fodder. Over the years instead of developing players they would eventually need to replace their ever aging and ever expensive lineup they instead have used them to get slightly younger and quite often more expensive players. The luxury tax they now have to pay doesn't help either. Steinbrenner would gladly pay it if he were raising banners- he's not so it becomes yet another bane.

If they had bitten the bullet just a handfull of years ago and elected a few years of developemental mediocraty, I should think they'd have a mix of stars young (and cheaper) up and coming stars.

How long before the Red Sox dump Francona and hire Torre? Afterall that was why combined with Torre's popularity that Torre wasn't fired during the fueds he had with Steinbrenner in 2003 and 2005.

Torre managed his best to make a team of superstars have chemistry where often there was none. Chemistry is something that developes when players all work together for a few year- its something you really cannot purchase. To his credit most other managers would have succumbed to the tsunami of egos in the Yanks' clubhouse. So the fact that he makes it all work year in and year out is a feat within itself.

The roster needs a serious culling and if the Yanks were really serious about being contenders again they should honestly consider not throwing money at the situation. I'd have sooner had canned Cashman over Torre. But since they didn't I'd say Red Sox and Blue Jays fans have something to look forward to because Lou Piniella is a serious step backwards in my opinion, especially if they continue with their signing and lack of developing new players.

I completly agree. This was a clubhouse full of egos and me first playes. 2 of the most being A-Rod and Sheffield. Torre didn't have a chance this year. This team won with Melky Caberera and Berniw Williams playing. Matsui came back then Sheffield rushed back in order to try to get a contract for next year. Because of the salaries Torre had no choice but play them. In reality they shouldn't have played.

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