Fred T. Jane Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 Far superior to all other concepts here. [Croatia National Team Manager Slavan] Bilic then went on to explain how Croatia's success can partially be put down to his progressive man-management techniques. "Sometimes I lie in the bed with my players. I go to the room of Vedran Corluka and Luka Modric when I see they have a problem and I lie in bed with them and we talk for 10 minutes." Maybe Capello could try getting through to his players this way too? Although how far he'd get with Joe Cole jumping up and down on the mattress and Rooney demanding to be read his favourite page from The Very Hungry Caterpillar is open to question. --The Guardian's Fiver, 08 September 2008 Attention: In order to obtain maximum enjoyment from your stay at the CCSLC, the reader is advised that the above post may contain large amounts of sarcasm, dry humour, or statements which should not be taken in any true sort of seriousness. As a result, the above poster absolves himself of any and all blame in the event that a forum user responds to the aforementioned post without taking the previous notice into account. Thank you for your cooperation, and enjoy your stay at the CCSLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleckie Posted October 22, 2006 Author Share Posted October 22, 2006 This would be my dreamProbably because i designed it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Clemente Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 Why do people love the rink logo? It's probably the single least inspired logo ever that isn't a Monogram or wordmark. I don't mind it as a shoulder logo, but as a primary.......ugh. It would be like an MLB team using a bat on a diamond for a logo.--Roger "Time?" Clemente. Follow me on Twitter if you care: @Animal_Clans.My opinion may or may not be the same as yours. The choice is up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letterform Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 Granted it's not the best logo in sports, but it's still better than a wordmark or naming a team after a kids movie, and the locals like it. The latter is the important thing. DEATH TO REEBOK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 It may be boring (and IMO seeing a "C" in there is a stretch, the opening's way to thin), but at least the stick/rink logo represents nothing about the Canucks' name while the orca represents something completly unrelated, if that makes any sence. Idealy Johnny Canuck would be the primary, with the rink/stick as the secondary. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steiny_ramone Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 It may be boring (and IMO seeing a "C" in there is a stretch, the opening's way to thin), but at least the stick/rink logo represents nothing about the Canucks' name while the orca represents something completly unrelated, if that makes any sence. Idealy Johnny Canuck would be the primary, with the rink/stick as the secondary.I kind of get what you're saying...The C logo doesn't represent anything, period. But the orca represents something that is not a Canuck. I think.... facespace?http://www.myspace.com/seancalcottmusic http://www.myspace.com/forgottentoys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 It may be boring (and IMO seeing a "C" in there is a stretch, the opening's way to thin), but at least the stick/rink logo represents nothing about the Canucks' name while the orca represents something completly unrelated, if that makes any sence. Idealy Johnny Canuck would be the primary, with the rink/stick as the secondary.I kind of get what you're saying...The C logo doesn't represent anything, period. But the orca represents something that is not a Canuck. I think....Exactly. I would rather have a bland logo that doesn't really represent anything then a cool logo that's way off base. I think the goat head and orca are both very good logos on their own, but they fail IMO as primary marks for their teams because they didn't/don't convey anything about sabres or canucks, respectivly. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 It may be boring (and IMO seeing a "C" in there is a stretch, the opening's way to thin), but at least the stick/rink logo represents nothing about the Canucks' name while the orca represents something completly unrelated, if that makes any sence. Idealy Johnny Canuck would be the primary, with the rink/stick as the secondary.I kind of get what you're saying...The C logo doesn't represent anything, period. But the orca represents something that is not a Canuck. I think....Exactly. I would rather have a bland logo that doesn't really represent anything then a cool logo that's way off base. I think the goat head and orca are both very good logos on their own, but they fail IMO as primary marks for their teams because they didn't/don't convey anything about sabres or canucks, respectivly.But thats the thing. C represents the C in Canucks, the whale represents Vancouver. Personally, when I think of Vancouver, I think of the indain style killer whale carvings. I think it fits perfectly. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 It may be boring (and IMO seeing a "C" in there is a stretch, the opening's way to thin), but at least the stick/rink logo represents nothing about the Canucks' name while the orca represents something completly unrelated, if that makes any sence. Idealy Johnny Canuck would be the primary, with the rink/stick as the secondary.I kind of get what you're saying...The C logo doesn't represent anything, period. But the orca represents something that is not a Canuck. I think....Exactly. I would rather have a bland logo that doesn't really represent anything then a cool logo that's way off base. I think the goat head and orca are both very good logos on their own, but they fail IMO as primary marks for their teams because they didn't/don't convey anything about sabres or canucks, respectivly.But thats the thing. C represents the C in Canucks, the whale represents Vancouver. Personally, when I think of Vancouver, I think of the indain style killer whale carvings. I think it fits perfectly.Well it represents "Vancouver" but not "Canucks." Nothing in the logo relates to what a canuck is.That's the problem, the team has never had a logo that has truly represented the team name. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReginaCanuck Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 As a Canucks fan I don't understand the popularity of Johnny Canuck. How exactly does it better represent the team name than the current logo? It looks like a high school logo for a team called the Lumberjacks.In the late 19th/early 20th century "canuck" was used as a slang term for Canadian lumberjacks. During WWI and WWII British soldiers called the Canadian troops ariving in Britain "Canucks." Since then, "canuck" has gone on to become a slang term for all Canadians. So I would say Johnny Canuck would work very well for a team named the "Cauncks."Now, what does an orca have to do with the name "Canucks"?OK, I didn't know that fact. But I still don't like basing the logo on an archaic meaning of the word.It may be boring (and IMO seeing a "C" in there is a stretch, the opening's way to thin), but at least the stick/rink logo represents nothing about the Canucks' name while the orca represents something completly unrelated, if that makes any sence. Idealy Johnny Canuck would be the primary, with the rink/stick as the secondary.I kind of get what you're saying...The C logo doesn't represent anything, period. But the orca represents something that is not a Canuck. I think....Exactly. I would rather have a bland logo that doesn't really represent anything then a cool logo that's way off base. I think the goat head and orca are both very good logos on their own, but they fail IMO as primary marks for their teams because they didn't/don't convey anything about sabres or canucks, respectivly.But thats the thing. C represents the C in Canucks, the whale represents Vancouver. Personally, when I think of Vancouver, I think of the indain style killer whale carvings. I think it fits perfectly.Well it represents "Vancouver" but not "Canucks." Nothing in the logo relates to what a canuck is.That's the problem, the team has never had a logo that has truly represented the team name.I see a problem with your logic here. You say you prefer the rink logo to the orca because the rink represents nothing and the orca represents "something that is not a Canuck." But, as Bucfan said, the orca represents Vancouver, which I think is a lot better than representing nothing. Especially when the best people can do to represent the nickname is a lumberjack. I'll take the current logo, which represents the city and forms the initial of the team name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 As a Canucks fan I don't understand the popularity of Johnny Canuck. How exactly does it better represent the team name than the current logo? It looks like a high school logo for a team called the Lumberjacks.In the late 19th/early 20th century "canuck" was used as a slang term for Canadian lumberjacks. During WWI and WWII British soldiers called the Canadian troops ariving in Britain "Canucks." Since then, "canuck" has gone on to become a slang term for all Canadians. So I would say Johnny Canuck would work very well for a team named the "Cauncks."Now, what does an orca have to do with the name "Canucks"?OK, I didn't know that fact. But I still don't like basing the logo on an archaic meaning of the word.It may be boring (and IMO seeing a "C" in there is a stretch, the opening's way to thin), but at least the stick/rink logo represents nothing about the Canucks' name while the orca represents something completly unrelated, if that makes any sence. Idealy Johnny Canuck would be the primary, with the rink/stick as the secondary.I kind of get what you're saying...The C logo doesn't represent anything, period. But the orca represents something that is not a Canuck. I think....Exactly. I would rather have a bland logo that doesn't really represent anything then a cool logo that's way off base. I think the goat head and orca are both very good logos on their own, but they fail IMO as primary marks for their teams because they didn't/don't convey anything about sabres or canucks, respectivly.But thats the thing. C represents the C in Canucks, the whale represents Vancouver. Personally, when I think of Vancouver, I think of the indain style killer whale carvings. I think it fits perfectly.Well it represents "Vancouver" but not "Canucks." Nothing in the logo relates to what a canuck is.That's the problem, the team has never had a logo that has truly represented the team name.I see a problem with your logic here. You say you prefer the rink logo to the orca because the rink represents nothing and the orca represents "something that is not a Canuck." But, as Bucfan said, the orca represents Vancouver, which I think is a lot better than representing nothing. Especially when the best people can do to represent the nickname is a lumberjack. I'll take the current logo, which represents the city and forms the initial of the team name.but a canuck is a lumberjack a orca is not a canuck. the johhny canuck logo also has history it was the team original logo before they entered the nhl. the rink logo forms a c like the orca to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyboy1 Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Far superior to all other concepts here.I've met that guy! Click here to read Third String Goalie - The Hockey Jersey of the Day Blog Click here to see my hockey and baseball jersey collection online ?You don?t like to see 20 kids punching 20 other kids. But it?s not a disgrace, It?s hockey.? - Michael Farber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred T. Jane Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 but a canuck is a lumberjack a orca is not a canuck.Canuck/knuk/ ? noun informal a Canadian, especially a French Canadian. ? ORIGIN apparently from Canada.No lumberjack to be seen. Though for the record, I just hooked up Don Cherry to my house. His spinning upon seeing this definition is providing plenty of electricity for the house! [Croatia National Team Manager Slavan] Bilic then went on to explain how Croatia's success can partially be put down to his progressive man-management techniques. "Sometimes I lie in the bed with my players. I go to the room of Vedran Corluka and Luka Modric when I see they have a problem and I lie in bed with them and we talk for 10 minutes." Maybe Capello could try getting through to his players this way too? Although how far he'd get with Joe Cole jumping up and down on the mattress and Rooney demanding to be read his favourite page from The Very Hungry Caterpillar is open to question. --The Guardian's Fiver, 08 September 2008 Attention: In order to obtain maximum enjoyment from your stay at the CCSLC, the reader is advised that the above post may contain large amounts of sarcasm, dry humour, or statements which should not be taken in any true sort of seriousness. As a result, the above poster absolves himself of any and all blame in the event that a forum user responds to the aforementioned post without taking the previous notice into account. Thank you for your cooperation, and enjoy your stay at the CCSLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letterform Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 but a canuck is a lumberjack a orca is not a canuck.Canuck/knuk/ • noun informal a Canadian, especially a French Canadian. — ORIGIN apparently from Canada.No lumberjack to be seen. Though for the record, I just hooked up Don Cherry to my house. His spinning upon seeing this definition is providing plenty of electricity for the house!The genesis of the team name is not in dispute inside Vancouver. It is a fact that the Canucks were named after Johnny Canuck.As for an Orca representing the Canucks, it mostly seems to be people living outside of the province that make this connection. The majority of fans that followed the team pre Orca and live HERE see a corporate connection. Personally I think the team should give the local fans what they want. I don't think that's the Orca. DEATH TO REEBOK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easy E Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 I see the current situation as the perfect compromise. In Vancouver, everyone loves the retro rink & stick "C" jersey, and now it's the official alternate. Outside Vancouver, having an Orca whale logo influenced loosely by Haida design says western Canada to people outside of the region very well. It is a global market and the current situation covers both aspects. If anything, Johnny Canuck is a little too stereotypical Canadian. I will say I've liked the fan concepts posted here with Johnny though. But not over the current designs the team has.My only wish would be dropping the red out of the main home and away jerseys and logos and going back to blue & green. The introduction of the whale was a perfect time to go back to the original colour scheme, and that was my biggest disappointment when they launched the new look in the 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred T. Jane Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 The genesis of the team name is not in dispute inside Vancouver. It is a fact that the Canucks were named after Johnny Canuck.The Johnny Canuck?Nifty Lumberjack clothes he has there. [Croatia National Team Manager Slavan] Bilic then went on to explain how Croatia's success can partially be put down to his progressive man-management techniques. "Sometimes I lie in the bed with my players. I go to the room of Vedran Corluka and Luka Modric when I see they have a problem and I lie in bed with them and we talk for 10 minutes." Maybe Capello could try getting through to his players this way too? Although how far he'd get with Joe Cole jumping up and down on the mattress and Rooney demanding to be read his favourite page from The Very Hungry Caterpillar is open to question. --The Guardian's Fiver, 08 September 2008 Attention: In order to obtain maximum enjoyment from your stay at the CCSLC, the reader is advised that the above post may contain large amounts of sarcasm, dry humour, or statements which should not be taken in any true sort of seriousness. As a result, the above poster absolves himself of any and all blame in the event that a forum user responds to the aforementioned post without taking the previous notice into account. Thank you for your cooperation, and enjoy your stay at the CCSLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacat_12 Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 It may be boring (and IMO seeing a "C" in there is a stretch, the opening's way to thin), but at least the stick/rink logo represents nothing about the Canucks' name while the orca represents something completly unrelated, if that makes any sence. Idealy Johnny Canuck would be the primary, with the rink/stick as the secondary.I kind of get what you're saying...The C logo doesn't represent anything, period. But the orca represents something that is not a Canuck. I think....Exactly. I would rather have a bland logo that doesn't really represent anything then a cool logo that's way off base. I think the goat head and orca are both very good logos on their own, but they fail IMO as primary marks for their teams because they didn't/don't convey anything about sabres or canucks, respectivly.But thats the thing. C represents the C in Canucks, the whale represents Vancouver. Personally, when I think of Vancouver, I think of the indain style killer whale carvings. I think it fits perfectly.Well it represents "Vancouver" but not "Canucks." Nothing in the logo relates to what a canuck is.That's the problem, the team has never had a logo that has truly represented the team name.Okay, but what about Montreal. A "C" with an "H" in it doesn't represent Canadiens or Montreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 The "C" certainly represents Canadiens. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred T. Jane Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Okay, but what about Montreal. A "C" with an "H" in it doesn't represent Canadiens or Montreal.Er, the "C" in the Habs' logo is for the Canadien in the team's official name, le Club de Hockey Canadien.*smacks his head* [Croatia National Team Manager Slavan] Bilic then went on to explain how Croatia's success can partially be put down to his progressive man-management techniques. "Sometimes I lie in the bed with my players. I go to the room of Vedran Corluka and Luka Modric when I see they have a problem and I lie in bed with them and we talk for 10 minutes." Maybe Capello could try getting through to his players this way too? Although how far he'd get with Joe Cole jumping up and down on the mattress and Rooney demanding to be read his favourite page from The Very Hungry Caterpillar is open to question. --The Guardian's Fiver, 08 September 2008 Attention: In order to obtain maximum enjoyment from your stay at the CCSLC, the reader is advised that the above post may contain large amounts of sarcasm, dry humour, or statements which should not be taken in any true sort of seriousness. As a result, the above poster absolves himself of any and all blame in the event that a forum user responds to the aforementioned post without taking the previous notice into account. Thank you for your cooperation, and enjoy your stay at the CCSLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Clemente Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 According to this link, Johnny Canuck is just a general Canadian hero. He is not defined into any specific role. He has been portrayed as many things, like a WWII fighter pilot, a logger, a farmer, but just something generally Canadian. He is basically just the Canadian answer to Uncle Sam or John Bull. Nothing more.When the Vancouver Canucks original team was founded they decided to use the version of Johnny Canuck that was portrayed as a logger. They could have protrayed him as a fighter pilot, a farmer, a soldier, a rancher, whatever. So a Canuck can be anything Canadian, like a Inuit-style Orca logo.--Roger "Time?" Clemente. Follow me on Twitter if you care: @Animal_Clans.My opinion may or may not be the same as yours. The choice is up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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