Swiss Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Matsuzaka announces decision to go to majors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeJones Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 the Yankees will sign him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 I don't know if I'm willing to take the risk. Outside of the WBC he's proven nothing. And it'll cost like, $10 to $30 million just to be able to negotiate with him.He's the guy most often associated with the Gyroball, so I definitely want to see that, but according to him, he doesn't throw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harperdc Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 I hope the news that Bavasi won't go for him isn't true, because the Mariners....gah. they NEED to sign him.curse you Scott Boras, *and* the front management of the Mariners. curse you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinMcD Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 You know the Yanks, Mets, or possibly the Mariners (Ichiro) will get him. My bet is that the Yanks give him $50 million plus. And will also have to put up like $30 million to his Japanese team. I would love for him to go to the O's but Angelos won't come close to Steinbrunners money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 I hope the news that Bavasi won't go for him isn't true, because the Mariners....gah. they NEED to sign him.curse you Scott Boras, *and* the front management of the Mariners. curse you!i totally agree, the mariners need to improve pitching if they want a chance at the playoffs and considering how they have signed ichrio and kenji johjima(sp) and are owned by a japanesse company they would have a good shot at him. but i guess it is to much of a risk and they would rather get some major leauge proven pitchers instead of one who has never pitched in the majors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 I really hope my Rangers at least make a bid.With them already having a stud Japanese reliever, a starter to compliment would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no97 Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 My guess is that *most* teams will make some kind of offer. Now, wether that's the Yankees offering $30 mil, or the Brewers offering $5 mil just so they can *say* they "went after him" is another story...Moose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 As a Red Sox fan, I really hope the Yankees sign this guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Hes already got his pinstripes ready for him he will be a Yankee mark it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcgd Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 I watched some of his pitching, his "gyroball" isn't that impressive. But his curveball is very impressive. Very sharp break. Fastball Tops out around 94. Mostly throws 92. He's been pitching since High school so he's got about 10 years on his arm. Probably a good front of the line starter, but is he worth what its going to take? In this video...the 7th, 8th and 9th pitches are really nasty. The 8th made me gasp because its just pure filth. It may be this "gyroball"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAwmW2S-xX4Here's another. He's got some crazy high stuff.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smzIyFHTX6UHere's the gyroball..maybe:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sboi0EWp8ao Check the spin on the second one. Crazy.Some people say its a myth. I dunno, something different is going on. I've also heard its more a techinque than a pitch. Its the way of rotating your hips in motion with your arm. The ball leaves the middle finder and rotates counter clockwise. (See second video)There is a video on You Tube of a High Schooler that can throw one. I can't tell what's happening because its so grainy, so I won't bother posting it.I'd rather have one of the other japanese pitchers that are unrestricted free agents that won't cost money just to talk to them.One thing, Japanese Umpires have the widest strike zones from watching that video. Eric Gregg should ump over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 The gyroball fascinates me greatly.It's amazing to me that there can be this pitch, and all of this video of the guys who supposedly throw it, and yet nobody knows whether or not this pitch actually exists. I think the biggest difference is that the pitcher rotates his arm so that it moves away from his body, rather than towards it, like on a curveball, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 I watched some of his pitching, his "gyroball" isn't that impressive. But his curveball is very impressive. Very sharp break. Fastball Tops out around 94. Mostly throws 92. He's been pitching since High school so he's got about 10 years on his arm. Probably a good front of the line starter, but is he worth what its going to take? In this video...the 7th, 8th and 9th pitches are really nasty. The 8th made me gasp because its just pure filth. It may be this "gyroball"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAwmW2S-xX4Here's another. He's got some crazy high stuff.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smzIyFHTX6UHere's the gyroball..maybe:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sboi0EWp8ao Check the spin on the second one. Crazy.Some people say its a myth. I dunno, something different is going on. I've also heard its more a techinque than a pitch. Its the way of rotating your hips in motion with your arm. The ball leaves the middle finder and rotates counter clockwise. (See second video)There is a video on You Tube of a High Schooler that can throw one. I can't tell what's happening because its so grainy, so I won't bother posting it.I'd rather have one of the other japanese pitchers that are unrestricted free agents that won't cost money just to talk to them.One thing, Japanese Umpires have the widest strike zones from watching that video. Eric Gregg should ump over there.well eric gregg died Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 This guy looks real good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclopsis Joe Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Some of those were balls in anywhere but Yankee Stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiasco! Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 sweet jesus! the pitches at the 0:55 and the 1:43 marks of this video are absolutely ridiculous.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smzIyFHTX6U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Well everyone, just remember the last bidding war between the Red Sox and Yankees for an unproven MLB pitcher.He's been good with the White Sox, but he sucked with the Yankees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlinfan Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Check the spin on the second one. Crazy.That would be a version of the backdoor slider that is very popular in Japan.Matsuzaka, himself has said that he doesn't throw it yet. He's only thrown it on a couple occasions during an actual game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Posted November 4, 2006 Author Share Posted November 4, 2006 As a Red Sox fan, I really hope the Yankees sign this guy!Well, buddy, the Red Sox need more pitching.Ah. Did you hear about the possible retirement of Pedro Martinez? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Yeah thats why the Mets will be heavy bidders, although I think their focus may be on Zito. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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