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I would love for the NFL to build a casino resort with a stadium that would be the permanent host for the Super Bowl. Also each team would play one game a year here. It would also be able to host many other events too, soccer, motorcross, rodeo, basketball, boxing and concerts. The teams would all share in the profits generated by the casino complex.

The hotel I used in the mock up is the Mandalay Bay. The stadium is part of a new complex in China called Nantong. http://en.structurae.de/structures/data/in...cfm?ID=s0022996

I would have 90% of the seating bowl below street level, so most of the hotel towers over the dome. Also one level of the suites that would ring the stadium would be condo. Of course the entire stadium would be integrated into the casino complex.

One can dream...but if you know of a venture capitalist...

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Giving the Super Bowl permanent site is an interesting idea, but I'm not sure the NFL would go for Vegas simply because they wish to maintain the fiction of being separate from sports gambling instead of setting up shop for their biggest game right in the heart of it all.

But if the dream did become a reality.....

Rather than require each team to burn off a home game here, I'd have 5 weeks of pre-season games held there, an NCAA bowl game (Las Vegas Bowl or something close), the WAC football championship, a MLS team, maybe ONE regular season game there with Arizona or Oakland being one of the teams.

Nice picture by the way! :notworthy:

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Giving the Super Bowl permanent site is an interesting idea, but I'm not sure the NFL would go for Vegas simply because they wish to maintain the fiction of being separate from sports gambling instead of setting up shop for their biggest game right in the heart of it all.

But if the dream did become a reality.....

Rather than require each team to burn off a home game here, I'd have 5 weeks of pre-season games held there, an NCAA bowl game (Las Vegas Bowl or something close), the WAC football championship, a MLS team, maybe ONE regular season game there with Arizona or Oakland being one of the teams.

Nice picture by the way! :notworthy:

I think the 3 major sports will start changing their attitudes about Vegas after the NBA All-Star Weekend there is a shining success. It's an ideal spot to host sporting events, and pro athletes make enough money that there's not really an ethical risk of throwing games - they make too much to be paid off. I look for the Florida Marlins or the Sacramento Kings to move to Vegas in the next few years, followed by lots of All-Star type events (hosting the Pro Bowl?).

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I have to say having an American version of Wembley for the NFL is interesting. Instead of Las Vegas, perhaps it could be put in L.A. instead of expanding or relocating a current franchise. Maybe also do something like play the Monday (or Thursday or Saturday) night games there as well.

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I have to say having an American version of Wembley for the NFL is interesting. Instead of Las Vegas, perhaps it could be put in L.A. instead of expanding or relocating a current franchise. Maybe also do something like play the Monday (or Thursday or Saturday) night games there as well.

They'd have to do that too, wouldn't they?

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but that would be a hell of a weekend

Weekend? lol

Seriously, though. I think it could be a good idea, but prospective host cities mioght file a lawsuit against the NFL. Not sure what they would file it for, but I suspect they'd find something.

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I honestly think that the NFL should either have a Super Bowl stadium like this or play it in ALL of the NFL's stadiums. Not just the ones inside or in warmer areas. Looking outside now, if Cincy had the Super Bowl it would be amazing, It the heavy snow... The two best teams shouldnt be affected by a little snow or cold temperatures.

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I have to say having an American version of Wembley for the NFL is interesting. Instead of Las Vegas, perhaps it could be put in L.A. instead of expanding or relocating a current franchise. Maybe also do something like play the Monday (or Thursday or Saturday) night games there as well.

They'd have to do that too, wouldn't they?

Not really. If there was an arrangement that had, say, half of the Monday night games at the L.A. stadium, that would give them the equivalent of a full home schedule. Then the Super Bowl every year on top of that.

Unless I'm mistaken, there wasn't a club that had Wembley Stadium as their home ground. It would be like that, except that instead of hosting national team games which American football does not have there would be some regular season NFL games.

After all, this is fantasy.

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This would never happen for a few reasons.

1. It would give the Super Bowl a permenant site which would take away the owners leverage to build a new stadium in their city as the NFL uses the Super Bowl as incentive.

2. The NFL is really sensative to connceting itself to gambling (I know it very much is). The NFL does not allow the city of Las Vegas to run any advertisement during their games even if the ad has nothing to do with gambling. I don't even think NBC is allowed to promote their show Las Vegas during Sunday Night Football. Since Vegas is not even allowed to advertise I doubt the NFL would give them this gift.

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I have to say having an American version of Wembley for the NFL is interesting. Instead of Las Vegas, perhaps it could be put in L.A. instead of expanding or relocating a current franchise. Maybe also do something like play the Monday (or Thursday or Saturday) night games there as well.

They'd have to do that too, wouldn't they?

Not really. If there was an arrangement that had, say, half of the Monday night games at the L.A. stadium, that would give them the equivalent of a full home schedule. Then the Super Bowl every year on top of that.

Unless I'm mistaken, there wasn't a club that had Wembley Stadium as their home ground. It would be like that, except that instead of hosting national team games which American football does not have there would be some regular season NFL games.

After all, this is fantasy.

Well that was what made me think of this. Both Wembley for FA games and Twickenham and Millennium in Wales,for rugby don't have a home team . It would kinda be like America's national stadium in America's playground. The reason I suggested that each team play there is it would give them a full slate of games and make for a hell of a road trip location. Plus I would figure most of the fan base is diverse, in their rooting interest so all teams could visit. In order to do this I would appease the owners by adding a 17th game to the schedule. I did at first think about the hosting the Sunday night or Monday night game but all cities like to be in that spotlight. SO who has a few bucks to get this off the ground. :D

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Los Angeles is a great place for something of this sort. It gives the people of LA the NFL without messing with the layout of the NFL as it stands. The idea is genius and I would love to see it come to fruition.

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Why does it have to have a permanent site though? The NCAA National Championship, Final Four, World Series, NBA Finals, Stanley Cup Finals, World Cup, Olympics, etc. are in a new venue every year. I think part of the fun is seeing it in a new city each year.

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All this talk of a United States National Stadium has had me thinking, what if once the Washington Nationals move out of RFK, that RFK would be renovated to become RFK National Stadium.

What better than the National Stadium in the nation's capital.

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All this talk of a United States National Stadium has had me thinking, what if once the Washington Nationals move out of RFK, that RFK would be renovated to become RFK National Stadium.

What better than the National Stadium in the nation's capital.

That would be nice but I don't think the national team would want to play all their games at one venue. They like travelling to different stadiums around the country to get new audiences. Like when they played Mexico yesterday they went down south to AZ to get the sell-out. If all their games were in D.C. they could not do this. Other countries don't have as much area so they have a national stadium, like England. They are tiny so they just have Wembley (whenever that gets finished). The US is one of if not the only country which has 50+ great venues to play at. They should, and do take advantage of this.

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OK well maybe the Super Bowl in Vegas would be a bad idea...

Mayhem Main Event at NBA All-Star Weekend

'Police Were Simply Overwhelmed' in Sin City

By JASON WHITLOCK

AOL

Sports Commentary

LAS VEGAS -- NBA All-Star Weekend in Vegas was an unmitigated failure, and any thoughts of taking the extravaganza to New Orleans in 2008 are total lunacy.

NBA's Big Weekend

An event planned to showcase what is right about professional basketball has been turned into a 72-hour display of why commissioner David Stern can't sleep at night and spends his days thinking of rules to mask what the NBA has come to represent.

Good luck fixing All-Star Weekend.

The game is a sloppy, boring, half-hearted mess. The dunk contest is contrived and pointless. The celebrity contest is unintended comedy. And, worst of all, All-Star Weekend revelers have transformed the league's midseason exhibition into the new millennium Freaknik, an out-of-control street party that features gunplay, violence, non-stop weed smoke and general mayhem.

Word of all the criminal activity that transpired during All-Star Weekend has been slowly leaking out on Las Vegas radio shows and TV newscasts and on Internet blogs the past 24 hours.

"It was filled with an element of violence," Teresa Frey, general manager for Coco's restaurant, told klastv.com. "They don't want to pay their bills. They don't want to respect us or each other."

Things got so bad that she closed the 24-hour restaurant from 2 a.m. to 4 a.m.

"I have been spit on. I have had food thrown at me," she said. "I have lost two servers out of fear. I have locked my door out of the fear of violence."

All weekend, people, especially cab drivers, gossiped about brawls and shootings. You didn't know what to believe because the local newspaper was filled with stories about what a raging success All-Star Weekend was. The city is desperately trying to attract an NBA franchise, and, I guess, there was no reason to let a few bloody bodies get in the way of a cozy relationship with Stern.

The New York Times says it's "hard to beat." Deadspin calls it "freakishly good."

Plus, the NBA's business partner ESPN didn't have time to dirty its hands and report on the carnage. I'm sure ESPN's reporters were embedded in the rear ends of the troops -- Shaq, Kobe, King James, D-Wade, AI and Melo.

But there were multiple brawls, at least two shootings, more than 350 arrests and a lot of terror in Vegas over the weekend.

And the police might want to talk to NFL player Pacman Jones about a nasty shooting spree at a Vegas strip club. Jones and the rapper Nelly were allegedly at Minxx Gentlemen's Club Monday morning shortly before (or during) the shooting.

Two victims, male employees of the club, were listed in critical condition at the hospital; a third, a female patron, sustained non-life threatening injuries after being grazed by a bullet.

There were so many fights and so many gangbangers and one parking-lot shootout at the MGM Grand that people literally fled the hotel in fear for their safety. I talked with a woman who moved from the MGM to the Luxor because "I couldn't take it. I'll never come back to another All-Star Game."

There are reports of a brawl between rappers and police at the Wynn Hotel.

Vegas police were simply overwhelmed along The Strip. They were there solely for decoration and to discourage major crimes. Beyond that, they minded their own business.

I was there. Walking The Strip this weekend must be what it feels like to walk the yard at a maximum security prison. You couldn't relax. You avoided eye contact. The heavy police presence only reminded you of the danger.

Without a full-scale military occupation, New Orleans will not survive All-Star Weekend 2008.

David Stern seriously needs to consider moving the event out of the country for the next couple of years in hopes that young, hip-hop hoodlums would find another event to terrorize. Taking the game to Canada won't do it. The game needs to be moved overseas, someplace where the Bloods and Crips and hookers and hoes can't get to it without a passport and plane ticket.

I'm serious. Stern has spent the past three years trying to move his league and players past the thug image Ron Artest's fan brawl stamped on the NBA.

After this weekend, I'm convinced he's losing the battle. All-Star Weekend Vegas screamed that the NBA is aligned too closely with thugs. Stern is going to have to take drastic measures to break that perception/reality. All-Star Weekend can no longer remain the Woodstock for parolees, wannabe rap artists and baby's mamas on tax-refund vacations.

This was not a byproduct of the game being held in Vegas. All-Star Weekend has been on this path for the past five or six years. Every year the event becomes more and more a destination for troublemakers.

If something isn't done, next year's All-Star Weekend will surpass the deceased Freaknik, a weekend-long party in Atlanta, in terms of lawlessness. Wide-spread looting and a rape killed the Freaknik in 1999.

The NBA's image cannot survive bedlam in the French Quarter. And I'm not sure it can survive the embarrassment of a New Orleans standoff between its fans and the National Guard, either.

If Stern wants to continue to strengthen the international appeal of his game, he has the perfect excuse to move the All-Star Game to Germany, China, England or anywhere Suge Knight's posse can't find it.

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2007-02-20 10:55:46

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