Neon_Matrix Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 I just found out that I have tickets for next sundays Jays game againt the Rays. Not only will it be the Jays last game of the season but also the Rays last game with the word "Devil" in their identity. I will now be able to claim I have been to a quasi historical game, lol. I'll take pics if there is anything worth taking pics of.See ya there... maybeYou best be coming!!! I will be sitting in aisle 141, row 2. Gimme a shout when you know for sure. Because Korbyn Is Colour Blind, My Signature Is Now Idiot Proof - Thanks Again Braden!!Go Leafs Go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Survival79 Posted September 24, 2007 Author Share Posted September 24, 2007 On a related tack, does anyone know where I can pick up a 1998 Devil Ray cap... the one with the devil ray in a gradient oval... before they started slathering "TB" on their hats? I had one when the team was first started selling merchandise but have misplaced it, and I can't seem to find one anywhere.Hopefully this will work for you. We are wolves • Under the moon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 On a related tack, does anyone know where I can pick up a 1998 Devil Ray cap... the one with the devil ray in a gradient oval... before they started slathering "TB" on their hats? I had one when the team was first started selling merchandise but have misplaced it, and I can't seem to find one anywhere.Hopefully this will work for you.I'd forgotten about Mickey's. Thanks, 79! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koizim Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 I just found out that I have tickets for next sundays Jays game againt the Rays. Not only will it be the Jays last game of the season but also the Rays last game with the word "Devil" in their identity. I will now be able to claim I have been to a quasi historical game, lol. I'll take pics if there is anything worth taking pics of.See ya there... maybeYou best be coming!!!That's what HE said. Engine, Engine, Number Nine, on the New York transit line, If my train goes off the track, pick it up! Pick it up! Pick it up! Back on the scene, crispy and clean, You can try, but then why, 'cause you can't intervene. We be the outcast, down for the settle. Won't play the rock, won't play the pebble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grmuckrakers Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Perhaps they're leaving Tampa Bay off the road uniforms to make it easier to play more games in Orlando -- like they did this year -- or other places, establishing more of a regional identity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC97 Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 I just found out that I have tickets for next sundays Jays game againt the Rays. Not only will it be the Jays last game of the season but also the Rays last game with the word "Devil" in their identity. I will now be able to claim I have been to a quasi historical game, lol. I'll take pics if there is anything worth taking pics of.See ya there... maybeYou best be coming!!! I will be sitting in aisle 141, row 2. Gimme a shout when you know for sure.141? Non-alcohol section for you.I'll be doing my usual buy a $9 ticket and wander until I find a place to sit somewhere close --- Chris Creamer Founder/Editor, SportsLogos.Net "The Mothership" • News • Facebook • X/Twitter • Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Perhaps they're leaving Tampa Bay off the road uniforms to make it easier to play more games in Orlando -- like they did this year -- or other places, establishing more of a regional identity.As if "Tampa Bay" wasn't already a regional identity.... The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon_Matrix Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 I just found out that I have tickets for next sundays Jays game againt the Rays. Not only will it be the Jays last game of the season but also the Rays last game with the word "Devil" in their identity. I will now be able to claim I have been to a quasi historical game, lol. I'll take pics if there is anything worth taking pics of.See ya there... maybeYou best be coming!!! I will be sitting in aisle 141, row 2. Gimme a shout when you know for sure.141? Non-alcohol section for you.I'll be doing my usual buy a $9 ticket and wander until I find a place to sit somewhere close Eh, I'm not going to complain about free tickets. Because Korbyn Is Colour Blind, My Signature Is Now Idiot Proof - Thanks Again Braden!!Go Leafs Go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Survival79 Posted September 25, 2007 Author Share Posted September 25, 2007 3. Identity (or should I say lack of)... Sort of fitting for a team now with two logos that are two totally different things, but then again, Tampa has had a lack of an identity (unless you consider losing) one.Perhaps they're leaving Tampa Bay off the road uniforms to make it easier to play more games in Orlando -- like they did this year -- or other places, establishing more of a regional identity.As if "Tampa Bay" wasn't already a regional identity....I'm convinced this ownership wants Florida in the name. I wouldn't be shocked at all if the following, which has been discussed before on this board, occurred:1. Florida Marlins become the Miami Marlins (or relocate).2. Tampa Bay Rays become the Florida Rays with a complete identity shift to sun rays. We are wolves • Under the moon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC97 Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 3. Identity (or should I say lack of)... Sort of fitting for a team now with two logos that are two totally different things, but then again, Tampa has had a lack of an identity (unless you consider losing) one.Perhaps they're leaving Tampa Bay off the road uniforms to make it easier to play more games in Orlando -- like they did this year -- or other places, establishing more of a regional identity.As if "Tampa Bay" wasn't already a regional identity....I'm convinced this ownership wants Florida in the name. I wouldn't be shocked at all if the following, which has been discussed before on this board, occurred:1. Florida Marlins become the Miami Marlins (or relocate).2. Tampa Bay Rays become the Florida Rays with a complete identity shift to sun rays. --- Chris Creamer Founder/Editor, SportsLogos.Net "The Mothership" • News • Facebook • X/Twitter • Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 That "sun" is giving us the People's Eyebrow. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahatman Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 3. Identity (or should I say lack of)... Sort of fitting for a team now with two logos that are two totally different things, but then again, Tampa has had a lack of an identity (unless you consider losing) one.Perhaps they're leaving Tampa Bay off the road uniforms to make it easier to play more games in Orlando -- like they did this year -- or other places, establishing more of a regional identity.As if "Tampa Bay" wasn't already a regional identity....I'm convinced this ownership wants Florida in the name. I wouldn't be shocked at all if the following, which has been discussed before on this board, occurred:1. Florida Marlins become the Miami Marlins (or relocate).2. Tampa Bay Rays become the Florida Rays with a complete identity shift to sun rays.If the Marlins ever get a stadium, they have agreed to change to the Miami Marlins as a condition of the financing. The Florida Rays sounds better than the Tampa Bay Rays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee. Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 I dunno what's worse, the creepy-ass sun, or the fact that this looks like an identity package for a second-rate family restaurant chain. Welcome to DrunjFlix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koizim Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 All I can think is, "raisins....raisins....buy....more....raisins...."Oh yeah, almost forgot: :therock: Engine, Engine, Number Nine, on the New York transit line, If my train goes off the track, pick it up! Pick it up! Pick it up! Back on the scene, crispy and clean, You can try, but then why, 'cause you can't intervene. We be the outcast, down for the settle. Won't play the rock, won't play the pebble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 I'm convinced this ownership wants Florida in the name. I wouldn't be shocked at all if the following, which has been discussed before on this board, occurred:1. Florida Marlins become the Miami Marlins (or relocate).2. Tampa Bay Rays become the Florida Rays with a complete identity shift to sun rays.Is there any reason they both couldn't use "Florida"? MLB doesn't have a problem with two teams using "New York" and "Los Angeles".If they really want the name, they need only take it. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JQK Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 TWO SCOOPS!!! Stay Tuned Sports Podcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruColor Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Remember, back in 2003, the Jax Suns tried to change that logo into something even MORE like the Raisin Bran sun:Kellogg's took issue, and made them change it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powersurge Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 3. Identity (or should I say lack of)... Sort of fitting for a team now with two logos that are two totally different things, but then again, Tampa has had a lack of an identity (unless you consider losing) one.Perhaps they're leaving Tampa Bay off the road uniforms to make it easier to play more games in Orlando -- like they did this year -- or other places, establishing more of a regional identity.As if "Tampa Bay" wasn't already a regional identity....I'm convinced this ownership wants Florida in the name. I wouldn't be shocked at all if the following, which has been discussed before on this board, occurred:1. Florida Marlins become the Miami Marlins (or relocate).2. Tampa Bay Rays become the Florida Rays with a complete identity shift to sun rays.If the Marlins ever get a stadium, they have agreed to change to the Miami Marlins as a condition of the financing. The Florida Rays sounds better than the Tampa Bay Rays.The Marlins should have been named 'Miami Marlins' from the start so the change would be a long time coming. As for the 'Rays' I personally think that either of the names would be acceptable and very marketable, provided the team stops sucking. Of course if they keep pummeling the Spankees like they did last night I think they'd be on the right path. As for the comment about whether there could be TWO Florida franchises utilizing the same state name, I don't like it but it could happen. I think comparing the multiple use of a state name with the multiple use of a city name is valid, but not conducive to marketing and identity especially if the two teams are hundreds of miles apart. Its easier to market teams within the same city and or general locale with the same name. I can't think of a league that has an example of using a state name twice. I think the reasons for that might stem from what I mentioned early, but if someone has an example please enlighten me. I haven't finished my first cup o' joe for the day so my brain could be missing some obvious examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Survival79 Posted September 26, 2007 Author Share Posted September 26, 2007 I'm convinced this ownership wants Florida in the name. I wouldn't be shocked at all if the following, which has been discussed before on this board, occurred:1. Florida Marlins become the Miami Marlins (or relocate).2. Tampa Bay Rays become the Florida Rays with a complete identity shift to sun rays.Is there any reason they both couldn't use "Florida"? MLB doesn't have a problem with two teams using "New York" and "Los Angeles".If they really want the name, they need only take it.I don't see any reason why they couldn't other than the organization's desire for a gradual change. They probably didn't want to have any overlap with the Florida Marlins and I would imagine they'd wait at least one season after the Florida Marlins became the Miami Marlins to become the Florida Rays.They kept aspects from the previous identity to maintain some consistency, such as the devil ray on the sleeve and of course the name Rays. Then, in a shift towards the new direction, they added a small reference to rays of sunshine and removed the team location off of the roads.This of course has left them with two separate identities, which the organization can now test in order to gauge fan support. They were probably terrified of making a full shift to Rays (of sunshine). I mean, this is an organization that didn't pick Stingrays because they were worried about people calling them the Stinkrays.As it stands, once the Marlins drop Florida the Rays can wait a season and become the Florida Rays (of sunshine). All they would have to do is drop the devil ray off the sleeve and put an F on the cap. Transition complete.If they want to become the Florida Rays (animal) all they have to do is get rid of the tiny sunburst and put an F on the cap. This would give them the opportunity to say "we've always been rays of the water, etc., etc."I just can't imagine them introducing the rays of sunshine element without the possibility of it becoming the sole team identity in the future.Then again, most of what they've done up until now hasn't made any sense. We are wolves • Under the moon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 I'll grant you that one. But even for the Devil Rays, this doesn't make sense. How are they supposed to test which of their two overlapping identities the fans prefer?And what leads you to believe that "the organization (has a) desire for a gradual change"? Specifically the gradual part? The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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