Spring Training Photos - New Hats and Jerseys

[Shumway]

Nevermind, already covered.

[lost_limey]

Dang I hate the Nationals BP look.

Although seeing as they do the red home / blue away thing it would make sense if this was a road BP cap and they swapped the red & blue for a home BP cap. Of course they don't do that because, it would actually make sense.

Though this looks cool as far as the template goes, but I'd still wish it were predominately red.

The Nat's Red set looks awesome, but the blues are just... meh.

[McCall]

Dang I hate the Nationals BP look.

Although seeing as they do the red home / blue away thing it would make sense if this was a road BP cap and they swapped the red & blue for a home BP cap. Of course they don't do that because, it would actually make sense.

Though this looks cool as far as the template goes, but I'd still wish it were predominately red.

The Nat's Red set looks awesome, but the blues are just... meh.

I disagree. I much more prefer the Nats navy away sets and would like to see navy as their dominant color. I just feel it fits Washington better, I don't know. Just how it seems to me. I was kinda surprised to see them go with the 'W' on the BP gear rather than the 'DC', as they have the first two seasons.

[hecticbro]

I think that Washington set is sharp.

Do the Padres have that weird BP cap design this year? I saw a picture of them in the paper the other day, and it looked like they were wearing normal caps (but it may have been an old photo).

[LogoHound]

Do the Padres have that weird BP cap design this year?

They sure do..

[koizim]

The worst is the Cubs

Well of course it's the worst! Its the worst team in baseball!

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We'll show you.

How to lose 90 games again and go a full century without a championship?

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CUBS: a full century of sucking

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Mrs. O'Malley, please pick up your kids at the front gate. They're beating the Cubs 7-3 in the eighth inning.

[Mingjai]

The worst is the Cubs

Well of course it's the worst! Its the worst team in baseball!

Hahahahahahahaha

Well of course it's the worst! Its the worst team in baseball!

We'll show you.

How to lose 90 games again and go a full century without a championship?

Hahahahahahahaha

CUBS: a full century of sucking

I LOVE THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!!!

Mrs. O'Malley, please pick up your kids at the front gate. They're beating the Cubs 7-3 in the eighth inning.

Any Mrs. O'Malley reference must be followed by an obligatory picture of Steve Bartman:

[CubsFanBudMan]

Yet, there is still no new BP jersey for the Angels...

Whats going on, I want panels!

Not sure if this was ever answered elsewhere, but I know the issue of the changing Angels BP caps was raised in this thread and apparently never resolved.

Stan McNeal of the Sporting News says the Angels refused to wear the new caps:

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=184182

Saw it in a recent issue but was out of the loop for a few weeks and finally searched for it online. It's buried in the notes column linked above, so here's the relevant part:

You won't catch the Angels wearing those new batting practice caps with the silly strap above the ears. Owner Arte Moreno, who's not a fan, says the club told MLB no thanks. After some debate, the league relented. . . .

[timparry]

Forgive me if this has already come up in the 10 pages of gripes... but the white paneled jerseys just look ridiculous (or should i say even more ridiculous) with gray pants. it's an illusion like, "whoops, we forgot to pack the road jerseys."

[FiddySicks]

Dang I hate the Nationals BP look.

Although seeing as they do the red home / blue away thing it would make sense if this was a road BP cap and they swapped the red & blue for a home BP cap. Of course they don't do that because, it would actually make sense.

Though this looks cool as far as the template goes, but I'd still wish it were predominately red.

The Nat's Red set looks awesome, but the blues are just... meh.

Im still bummed so many tems dropped their alt logos for the BP caps. The navy hat with the red bill and the DC logo was awesome. Make that into a 59Fifty alt hat and its the best in the league.

[FiddySicks]

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WTF?

[So_Fla]

Wow, so I don't know if this has been covered yet, but the Yankees will have a home and a road version, and the difference is so small it's ridiculous: the color of the lower side panel.

Home:

Road:

I suppose this will help the jersey match the pants better, but this seems a little over the top to me.

As for the hats, I bought a Yankees BP model and I love it. I think that as long as the earflap piece is the same color as the rest of the hat, it looks great. See the Rangers and the Giants, for instance. But as a general trend, if the side panel is a different color, it looks ridiculous. There are some exceptions, but this seems to be the pattern, in my opinion.

Over the top would have been that they would have used a pinstriped lower panel on the home Yankees BP jersey.

I have a new Yankees BP cap and love it. I didn't think I would, but I do.

[Bouj]

Yet, there is still no new BP jersey for the Angels...

Whats going on, I want panels!

Not sure if this was ever answered elsewhere, but I know the issue of the changing Angels BP caps was raised in this thread and apparently never resolved.

Stan McNeal of the Sporting News says the Angels refused to wear the new caps:

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=184182

Saw it in a recent issue but was out of the loop for a few weeks and finally searched for it online. It's buried in the notes column linked above, so here's the relevant part:

You won't catch the Angels wearing those new batting practice caps with the silly strap above the ears. Owner Arte Moreno, who's not a fan, says the club told MLB no thanks. After some debate, the league relented. . . .

Good catch. Thanks for clearing that up. Does make me wonder if Big Stein is slipping: how could he not have tried that move first?!

[Gothamite]

Good point, especially since they've resisted all the silliness in the past.

[BallWonk]

The Nat's Red set looks awesome, but the blues are just... meh.

I disagree. I much more prefer the Nats navy away sets and would like to see navy as their dominant color. I just feel it fits Washington better, I don't know. Just how it seems to me. I was kinda surprised to see them go with the 'W' on the BP gear rather than the 'DC', as they have the first two seasons.

On the color, you're right: Blue fits Washington as a city better than red. Not really as a matter of opinion, even, but in terms of simple practice, history, and civic color choice. Aside from all the flags everywhere, you see more blue than red in DC, Washington himself designed blue uniforms for the army, his personal flag was blue, most government institutions emphasize blue over red, &c. Not that red is wrong or a bad color for the Nats, but blue is the more naturally Washington-esque color.

But as far as the switch to the pretzel W, this may or may not be causally related, but the owners, the Lerner family, have made clear that the pretzel W will increasingly be the team's primary identifying mark in all uses, particularly at the new ballpark. Switching from the bevel DC to the pretzel W on the BPs is consistent with the owners' stated plan to play up the pretzel W going forward. I will not be surprised if the Nats dump the DC alt caps in the next few years.

[Gothamite]

Man, I hate the pretzel W. It isn't even historically important to the club.

Maybe if they redesigned the uniforms just a little bit, so it wasn't quite so out of place, it wouldn't bother me as much.

[BallWonk]

Man, I hate the pretzel W. It isn't even historically important to the club.

Maybe if they redesigned the uniforms just a little bit, so it wasn't quite so out of place, it wouldn't bother me as much.

I basically agree, though I don't mind at all that it doesn't match the rest of the uniform. I mean, it's not like the ball-in-glove logo ever matched the rest of the Brewers uniforms, right? But I do understand why the Nats chose the pretzel W.

1. This was ultimately Bud Selig's decision, and Bud is so conservative he's actually reactionary, at least in terms of his publicly expressed attitudes about things like team logos and uniforms. I mean, you give Bud Selig a decision to make, you can't be surprised when he makes a bad choice.

2. The classic block W that really does stand for baseball in Washington is so simple that it would be hard to protect, and anyway it's the kind of retrograde design that undoubtedly scares away marketing/merchandising folks who ask, with a straight face, "You expect me to sell that to the kids today?" even though the Yankees wear one of the most plain, unadorned logos in all of sports and their caps are planet-wide best-sellers.

3. The curly W was available as an off-the-shelf solution when the team had literally weeks to create a new identity. Minor redesign improved it greatly, but you can see how rushed the job was in the intersection where the two loops cross: The curves on either side of the intersection don't quite line up.

4. Washington is full of aggrieved baseball fans who weren't actually Senators fans and have no direct, personal connection to Washington baseball history, but who have latched on to romantic notions about the expansion Senators and who sincerely believe that they were at the final Senators game against the Yankees in '71. The pretzel W is the signifier of this shared romantic illusion, so it has a huge constituency here in DC.

So I completely understand why it was chosen. It's just a shame, because there are so many interesting other directions that were not taken. The W at the beginning of the signing copy of the Constitution, for example, or the straight/loopy W in George Washington's signature, or even an updated block W with gold bevels, which I have photographic evidence was actually produced at some point in the relocation/redesign process.

[Gothamite]

It's not that I need every element to match, but when you have a uniform like the Nationals, in which every single element is exactly structured to match, a uniform coordinated within an inch of its life, the pretzel W looks very out of place.

If they even had block numbers, then the W wouldn't look so bad.

[M59]

It's not that I need every element to match, but when you have a uniform like the Nationals, in which every single element is exactly structured to match, a uniform coordinated within an inch of its life, the pretzel W looks very out of place.

If they even had block numbers, then the W wouldn't look so bad.

I don't believe every single element in their uniform set does match. Otherwise, how do you explain the sans-serif Nationals or Washington coupled with numbers that have super-duper serifs?

(Can you tell that I've always hated those numbers?)