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Hmmm...I missed the Hebert thing. If memory serves that was a tough time with a lot going on, so that may be why I don't recall it.

About Horn, it's one thing to read about it but...

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! :cursing::cry:

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Plummers rights and #4 for the #1? I know Al Davis is senile but noone is that dumb to make that trade.

<Paul Tagliabue Voice> There has been a trade. Washington sends their 1999 1st round pick to New Orleans for their 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th round picks, as well as their 2000 1st and 3rd round picks. And with the fifth selection, New Orleans selects Ricky Williams from the University of Texas. </Paul Tagliabue Voice>

Good Point :D

BUT. The trade bucfan suggested would mean Jake Plummer is worth the 12th overall pick. (look up a draft pick trade chart). Is anyone dumb enough to think that?

I really cant understand what the issue would be with that. Oakland makes that kinda move they get the vet presence they want at QB plus possibly a big back in Adrian Peterson. Its not like the bucs have the 20th pick or anyhting. And even so, if they make that deal and dont want a running back, both Quinn and JaMarcus Russel could still be on the board and then could sit behind Plummer for a year or two and develop instead of being tossed into the game immidately.

To trade up from #4 to #1 it would take something equivalent to the 12th Overall Pick to get there. Look up a trade value chart. (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/features/valuechart.html). As we now know Plummer is worth a 4th Round Pick at best. As you see with that value the Bucs couldnt even move up from #4 to #3 with that deal. The trade you suggested is more lop sided than Tara Reid post boob job.

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Plummers rights and #4 for the #1? I know Al Davis is senile but noone is that dumb to make that trade.

<Paul Tagliabue Voice> There has been a trade. Washington sends their 1999 1st round pick to New Orleans for their 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th round picks, as well as their 2000 1st and 3rd round picks. And with the fifth selection, New Orleans selects Ricky Williams from the University of Texas. </Paul Tagliabue Voice>

Good Point :D

BUT. The trade bucfan suggested would mean Jake Plummer is worth the 12th overall pick. (look up a draft pick trade chart). Is anyone dumb enough to think that?

I really cant understand what the issue would be with that. Oakland makes that kinda move they get the vet presence they want at QB plus possibly a big back in Adrian Peterson. Its not like the bucs have the 20th pick or anyhting. And even so, if they make that deal and dont want a running back, both Quinn and JaMarcus Russel could still be on the board and then could sit behind Plummer for a year or two and develop instead of being tossed into the game immidately.

To trade up from #4 to #1 it would take something equivalent to the 12th Overall Pick to get there. Look up a trade value chart. (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/features/valuechart.html). As we now know Plummer is worth a 4th Round Pick at best. As you see with that value the Bucs couldnt even move up from #4 to #3 with that deal. The trade you suggested is more lop sided than Tara Reid post boob job.

Because of a"Trade Values Chart"? Ive never even heard of that. And I dont see how its lopsided if the Raiders gain an extra veteran quarterback, dont lose anything anyway (Either Quinn or Russel and Peterson WILL still be there in the forth slot), and end up paying less for their pick. Is having the first pick really that super awesome that its not worth trading even if your set to gain quite a bit more? I mean yeah sure, that chart thingy says its not good, but that chart thingy doesnt take into account other factors such as income of your pick, vet presence, the fact that whoever the Raiders choose would be tossed into the game still wet, ect ect ect.

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Super Bowl MVP* Dominic Rhodes signs a 2 year, 7.5 million dollar deal with the Raiders.

*-He wasn't the actual MVP, but close enough.

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Tim Carter was Traded to the Browns today ( dont know for who yet )

Dam the Browns are shure looking good now. Then again i could be rong.

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Super Bowl MVP* Dominic Rhodes signs a 2 year, 7.5 million dollar deal with the Raiders.

*-He wasn't the actual MVP, but close enough.

The Raiders always sign the SB MVP and they never do anything for them.

See Larry Brown and Desmond Howard.

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Droughns traded to the Giants for Carter. The Giants look like they'll be content with Droughns/Jacobs and possibly a draftee for their running back situation.

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It looks so wrong...yet so right. :D

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Then again i could be rong.

u just mite b.

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Plummers rights and #4 for the #1? I know Al Davis is senile but noone is that dumb to make that trade.

<Paul Tagliabue Voice> There has been a trade. Washington sends their 1999 1st round pick to New Orleans for their 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th round picks, as well as their 2000 1st and 3rd round picks. And with the fifth selection, New Orleans selects Ricky Williams from the University of Texas. </Paul Tagliabue Voice>

Good Point :D

BUT. The trade bucfan suggested would mean Jake Plummer is worth the 12th overall pick. (look up a draft pick trade chart). Is anyone dumb enough to think that?

I really cant understand what the issue would be with that. Oakland makes that kinda move they get the vet presence they want at QB plus possibly a big back in Adrian Peterson. Its not like the bucs have the 20th pick or anyhting. And even so, if they make that deal and dont want a running back, both Quinn and JaMarcus Russel could still be on the board and then could sit behind Plummer for a year or two and develop instead of being tossed into the game immidately.

To trade up from #4 to #1 it would take something equivalent to the 12th Overall Pick to get there. Look up a trade value chart. (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/features/valuechart.html). As we now know Plummer is worth a 4th Round Pick at best. As you see with that value the Bucs couldnt even move up from #4 to #3 with that deal. The trade you suggested is more lop sided than Tara Reid post boob job.

Because of a"Trade Values Chart"? Ive never even heard of that. And I dont see how its lopsided if the Raiders gain an extra veteran quarterback, dont lose anything anyway (Either Quinn or Russel and Peterson WILL still be there in the forth slot), and end up paying less for their pick. Is having the first pick really that super awesome that its not worth trading even if your set to gain quite a bit more? I mean yeah sure, that chart thingy says its not good, but that chart thingy doesnt take into account other factors such as income of your pick, vet presence, the fact that whoever the Raiders choose would be tossed into the game still wet, ect ect ect.

That Trade Value Chart is very, very, close to the one NFL teams use to value Draft Picks. If you think the Raiders would drop down out of the top pick cause of Jake Plummer then thats cool, but Im saying its just not realisitc.

The Raiders can choose any player they want at #1. By going to #4 you could have your top 3 players on the board gone by the time you pick. Its crazy to suggest that an aging QB, thats worth a 4th round pick at best, whos been benched, and has mediocre at best stats recently would get a team to trade out of #1. Look how much it took for New York to get Manning and the #1 Selection.

If anything I could see the Raiders taking CJ and trading him for a huge amount to someone for picking Russell.... i.e.

1) OAK- CJ

2) DET- Thomas

3) CLE- Peterson

4) TB- Russell

Then Oakland could make Tampa give up say Russell, a 3rd, next years first, and a late draft pick next year for CJ.

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Donnie Edwards makes his return to Kansas City:

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Stalllworth's getting $12M guaranteed. Got news for the Patriots: he ain't that good. Maybe they've got some good hamstring doctors up in the northeast.

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Dam i feel sorry for the saints work so hard and where they made it last year , and now they are loosing some of there key players. One of the teams i like but hopefully they can get some good players to replace them.

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stallworth played for the eagles last year and not the saints.

and the seahawks signed deon grant to a 6!! year deal link

they also realeased grant wistrom and signed brian russle. i like these moves grant is an improvment over hamlin and russle can compete with boluware for the other saftey spot. now they just need a te and a good guard

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Stalllworth's getting $12M guaranteed. Got news for the Patriots: he ain't that good. Maybe they've got some good hamstring doctors up in the northeast.

I'll agree that the Patriots overpaid for Stallworth, but he's definitely an upgrade over Jennifer Wilbanks.

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Stalllworth's getting $12M guaranteed. Got news for the Patriots: he ain't that good. Maybe they've got some good hamstring doctors up in the northeast.

I'll agree that the Patriots overpaid for Stallworth, but he's definitely an upgrade over Jennifer Wilbanks.

She's been playing for the Patriots? :blink:

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You know, except for the eyes, she looks different in uniform: :D

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Stalllworth's getting $12M guaranteed. Got news for the Patriots: he ain't that good. Maybe they've got some good hamstring doctors up in the northeast.

I'll agree that the Patriots overpaid for Stallworth, but he's definitely an upgrade over Jennifer Wilbanks.

She's been playing for the Patriots? :blink:

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You know, except for the eyes, she looks different in uniform: :D

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That ain't even right.

Not right at all.

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Pats sign former Bengal Kelley Washington to a 5 year deal that could be worth $22 million.....did someone kidnap Bob Kraft and replace him with Daniel Snyder or something?!?

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Pats sign former Bengal Kelley Washington to a 5 year deal that could be worth $22 million.....did someone kidnap Bob Kraft and replace him with Daniel Snyder or something?!?

I always wondered what the Patriots would do if the Colts actually won the Super Bowl.

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