2007 NBA Playoffs Offical Thread

[Billy B]

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QUOTE(Billy B @ Thursday, April 19th, 2007 - 16:50:56) ←

Golden State over Dallas in 7

Just wanted to bring out the playoff predictions thread. So far every team that I picked has won, is winning, or tied in their series. I didn't think that the Warriors had a shot against a team other than the Mavs before, but now it looks like they could easily beat the Rockets/Jazz. They might even have a shot against the Spurs or Suns.

[Nick 1733]

Interesting take on the Nuggets/Spurs officiating:

http://nba.aolsportsblog.com/2007/04/28/so...-nba-postseason

[See Red]

Not sure if anybody is watching the Nuggets game but that call on Iverson is easily the worst I've seen this postseason. Easily. Iverson is blocking out Duncan (or attempting to, at least), Duncan jumps for the rebounds, lands on Iversons back and flips over him. How do the words "over the back" not apply to that play in the Officials' eyes?

[HedleyLamarr]

I've never seen a guy whine so much about officiating.

[Nick 1733]

Not sure if anybody is watching the Nuggets game but that call on Iverson is easily the worst I've seen this postseason. Easily. Iverson is blocking out Duncan (or attempting to, at least), Duncan jumps for the rebounds, lands on Iversons back and flips over him. How do the words "over the back" not apply to that play in the Officials' eyes?

That was beyond ridiculous. I just got back from the game, and I want to know... How can a game be called down the middle for 3 1/2 quarters then all of a sudden the refs decide that the Spurs should win?

I know this seems like being a major homer, but the refs have decided who's going to win this series. It's clear, and I know there are several non-Nuggets fans who watched the game who would agree with me. It's disgusting.

[FiddySicks]

I've never seen a guy whine so much about officiating.

Im thinking that its a trend with Nugs fans. Or at least the ones here......

[See Red]

I can deal with missed calls in any other league and take them as human error. But the NBA is frustrating because what the referee sees isn't always the reason for a whistle or a non-whistle. I don't think either one of you can actually suggest that that's not the case in the NBA. It's frustrating when it goes against my team and when I feel that's the case, I'm going to post it. I felt that call against Iverson was a terrible, terrible call -- I would've if I was watching this game as a Bulls fan or a Warriors fan -- I might not have mentioned it then, but happened to be more frustrating because it affected my team. I can admit that Melo and AI get their fair share of calls -- or that AI gets some ridiculous continuations that leave me scratching my head -- which I did earlier, or that Nene was allowed to hack Duncan in the first three quarters without much consequence, as I've said many times, the Nuggets are down 3-1 because the Spurs are a much, much better team and not because of officiating -- keep ignoring when I say that, whatever.

Hedley, Bucfan... you don't like what I post? Ignore me.

[Nick 1733]

I can deal with missed calls in any other league and take them as human error. But the NBA is frustrating because what the referee sees isn't always the reason for a whistle or a non-whistle. I don't think either one of you can actually suggest that that's not the case in the NBA. It's frustrating when it goes against my team and when I feel that's the case, I'm going to post it. I felt that call against Iverson was a terrible, terrible call -- I would've if I was watching this game as a Bulls fan or a Warriors fan -- I might not have mentioned it then, but happened to be more frustrating because it affected my team. I can admit that Melo and AI get their fair share of calls -- or that AI gets some ridiculous continuations that leave me scratching my head -- which I did earlier, or that Nene was allowed to hack Duncan in the first three quarters without much consequence, as I've said many times, the Nuggets are down 3-1 because the Spurs are a much, much better team and not because of officiating -- keep ignoring when I say that, whatever.

Hedley, Bucfan... you don't like what I post? Ignore me.

What he said...

It's just a matter of seeing it effect your team so often that it drives you crazy. NBA officiating is horrible, and that goes for every single team in the league. It's been a LONG time since I saw a game where the officials called the game right for 48 minutes.

[DG_ThenNowForever]

NBA officiating IS terrible. I always thought that was a given. Patrick Ewing made his career off of traveling, Kobe Bryant punched Mike Bibby in the face and BIBBY got the foul, Jordan's last big shot came off a blatant push-off, and so on, and so on.

I think denying that NBA officials give major deference to the starts is pretty naive. I haven't seen enough of the Spurs/Nuggets series to comment, but I wouldn't at all be surprised if what you're saying is true. And it's a shame, too, because the Nuggets deserve better and the NBA needs more marquee teams.

[See Red]

NBA officiating IS terrible. I always thought that was a given. Patrick Ewing made his career off of traveling, Kobe Bryant punched Mike Bibby in the face and BIBBY got the foul, Jordan's last big shot came off a blatant push-off, and so on, and so on.

I think denying that NBA officials give major deference to the starts is pretty naive. I haven't seen enough of the Spurs/Nuggets series to comment, but I wouldn't at all be surprised if what you're saying is true. And it's a shame, too, because the Nuggets deserve better and the NBA needs more marquee teams.

And I wouldn't say the Nuggets have gotten the short end of the stick all that much. I'd say the officiating favored the Nuggets overall in last nights game, and probably in game one too (which I didn't see in it's entirety). But that call against AI last night was as bad as I've seen and I thought it should be mentioned -- an I did because I was frustrated by it. That blatant of a blown call being called with a teams season on the line.

I can take bad calls against the Broncos or any other team of mine because, like I said, it's human error. In the NBA, it's not.

[TFoA]

I've been saying this forever, although the 2006 NFL Playoffs made me think otherwise for a moment: NBA refs are the worst in all of sports, at least in North America. There's this, there was last year's NBA finals where (all respect to Dwyane Wade and the Heat...a Championship is a Championship) Dwyane Wade basically turned the NBA Finals into his very own free throw shooting exhibition, the Spurs chucking the out of everyone year after year, the Lakers getting absolutely every call during their run as champs (especially Kobe punching Bibby and Bibby getting called for the foul.), and many others. You really can't tell anybody with a straight face that the NBA refs call games straight down the middle, because it's obvious that they don't.

[Billy B]

The NBA refs are terrible. Most of the time that Dwayne Wade drives to the basket and puts up a shot, there is a foul called. He averaged about 20 free throws per game in the Finals last year. The superstars get all of the calls. Two days ago Steve Nash had a Lakers defender one on one. He went for the layup, but it was going to get blocked so Steve Nash kicked his foot out, and the defender couldn't get close to him. Reggie Miller did the same thing his whole career. He would always kick out a foot to keep a defender away. The refs in the NBA are going to give all the calls to the superstars and, unfortunately, there's no way around it.

[See Red]

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QUOTE(Billy B @ Tuesday, May 1st, 2007 - 15:02:26) ←

The NBA refs are terrible. Most of the time that Dwayne Wade drives to the basket and puts up a shot, there is a foul called. He averaged about 20 free throws per game in the Finals last year. The superstars get all of the calls. Two days ago Steve Nash had a Lakers defender one on one. He went for the layup, but it was going to get blocked so Steve Nash kicked his foot out, and the defender couldn't get close to him. Reggie Miller did the same thing his whole career. He would always kick out a foot to keep a defender away. The refs in the NBA are going to give all the calls to the superstars and, unfortunately, there's no way around it.

Reggie Miller's one of the all-time great floppers and he did that move where he stuck the leg out to draw contact a lot. Every once in a while I'll see an official call a foul against the offense when a player does that. NBA officiating is just terrible, and that's why I get frustrated and complain a lot about it. I can deal with human error, but I can't tolerate the star treatment or when the referees reward players for obvious flops -- I certainly look forward to the NBA possibly giving the referees the option of calling a technical for an obvious flop attempt next season. I know there's a superstar tilt in other sports -- an umpire might expand the strike zone a little bit for a Greg Maddux type or a great receiver may be a little more likely to get away with a slight pushoff -- but it's not nearly as blatant, and probably encouraged, as it is in the NBA.

Even in series' I don't care about it's frustrating to watch -- like last years NBA Finals where when the Heat were in danger of going down 0-3 in the series, they got just about every single call late in the fourth quarter and they managed to come back and then, later on, win that series.

[See Red]

George Karl seems pretty pissed off at JR Smith right about now. Rightfully so, JR's been terrible in the postseason and he threw up an ill-advised shot late in last night's game. I don't believe he'll touch the court for the remainder of the series.

According to the newspaper, Smith's mistakes throughout the series have bothered Karl, leading to his decision to bench him for Game 5. Karl seemed perturbed by Smith's 3-pointer with 25.7 seconds left in Game 4 on Monday night with Denver trailing 93-89.

"I have no idea what planet that came from," Karl told The Associated Press. Karl said he had drawn up a play to get the ball to Iverson or Anthony.

"And then, of course the one with eight seconds to go, from 50 feet," Karl said. "I just love the dignity of the game being insulted right in front of me."

[Davey]

Wow the Raps - Nets game, came down to the end. I think the Raps got lucky, because if it wasnt for the freethrows they would of lost it. They where solid in the first half, but seemed to struggled in the 2nd. Now it comes to game 6, and they really need to step it up. If they can win it , then theres hope in game 7.

[NJTank]

As a Net fan I feel confident there wont be a Game 7.

[J.R.]

The Warriors just got hosed by the officials.

[FiddySicks]

I can deal with missed calls in any other league and take them as human error. But the NBA is frustrating because what the referee sees isn't always the reason for a whistle or a non-whistle. I don't think either one of you can actually suggest that that's not the case in the NBA. It's frustrating when it goes against my team and when I feel that's the case, I'm going to post it. I felt that call against Iverson was a terrible, terrible call -- I would've if I was watching this game as a Bulls fan or a Warriors fan -- I might not have mentioned it then, but happened to be more frustrating because it affected my team. I can admit that Melo and AI get their fair share of calls -- or that AI gets some ridiculous continuations that leave me scratching my head -- which I did earlier, or that Nene was allowed to hack Duncan in the first three quarters without much consequence, as I've said many times, the Nuggets are down 3-1 because the Spurs are a much, much better team and not because of officiating -- keep ignoring when I say that, whatever.

Hedley, Bucfan... you don't like what I post? Ignore me.

What he said...

It's just a matter of seeing it effect your team so often that it drives you crazy. NBA officiating is horrible, and that goes for every single team in the league. It's been a LONG time since I saw a game where the officials called the game right for 48 minutes.

Look, its nothing personal against either of you, but you two complain so frickin much about how your teams get hosed that it makes me wanna pull my hair out. And its in EVERY sport you guys enjoy. Its to the point where I root against the Broncos and Nuggets making the playoffs just so I don't have to read your further conspiracy theories as to why the league has it in for them come playoff time. And ill even give you points for creativity as its definately always some new and unique reason as to why you got hosed, but if either of you would just step up and say, yeah, we got our :censored: handed to us, plain and simple, id probably start going back to church.

And to further add to the point, it doesnt matter if the Warriors got "hosed" by the Refs tonight. They didn't score in the last three and a half minutes. Your not gonna often win a ballgame when that happens.

[J.R.]

And to further add to the point, it doesnt matter if the Warriors got "hosed" by the Refs tonight. They didn't score in the last three and a half minutes. Your not gonna often win a ballgame when that happens.

Agreed, but the non-call on Dirk's blatant foul on Richardson's three and the subsequent foul out call on Baron Davis was ridiculous.

[NJTank]

The NBA can fix games so easily and I got a feeling unless the Warriors blow out Dallas in Game 6 it will happen again and the Mavs will win in 7.