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Nice win for the Warriors tonight. They embarrassed the Mavs tonight. I'm beginning to think that the Mavs aren't the only team the Warriors can beat. They've got a real good shot at Houston/Utah. They've got a raucous crowd, it will be extremely difficult for them to lose at home.

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LOL. 67 wins down the drain.

That being said, the Warriors were playing at an inhuman level in that second half. They didn't just want the win, they wanted to bury them. Awesome job, and that crowd is AMAZING. They were at fever pitch all night and made those 10 Mav fans & Cuban look STUPID. Just an amazing experience, game, and accomplishment.

Congrats to the Waaaaaaaaarioooooorrrs.

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Calling touch fouls on one letting the other get away with nearly body checking. Not calling walks when its clear and getting someone for every extra step on the other. The refs can fix NBA games easier then any other sport.

See 2002 Western Conference Finals when the Refs won it for the Lakers.

You mention "touch foul". Is/was it a foul or not? You used the word, foul, therefore it can and should be called. Most officials look for advantage/disadvantage in most situations and remember that these are split- second judgements. Now I would not reject the possibility of having age limits on all officials, like FIFA, where they have a mandatory retirement age for referees/asst. referees at age 45, but it is not in placed here.

While I know that you probably have never been certified by a state high school federation to officiate or have been to a clinic, but I digress even more.

The definition for travelling in the NBA is different than what is in for NHSF (most US high schools), NCAA (college and some US high schools), and FIBA. See Section XIV here:

http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_10.html?nav=ArticleList

At least Metroplex fans have the Rangers to look forward to this summer.

Not to have a conspiracy thought, but you don't think that calling balls/strikes are less objective than a basketball foul/violation? I think you are wrong, way wrong.

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Did you watch the NBA in the 90s.

Jordan could choke someone in the 4th quarter and not get called for a foul but if you breath on Jordan you would get hit with a flagrant.

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Calling touch fouls on one letting the other get away with nearly body checking. Not calling walks when its clear and getting someone for every extra step on the other. The refs can fix NBA games easier then any other sport.

See 2002 Western Conference Finals when the Refs won it for the Lakers.

*whistle*

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Did you watch the NBA in the 90s.

Jordan could choke someone in the 4th quarter and not get called for a foul but if you breath on Jordan you would get hit with a flagrant.

Actually I did and we are close to the same age. So therefore it is "fixed"? Why would you not watch the WWE but would gladly see the NBA if both were "fixed"? Should it legally be classified as "Sports Entertainment" and regulated differently? Player bias aside, it may exist, as it does in all sports where there is subjective judges or officials. Boxing (1998 Summer Olympics gold medal fight with Roy Jones, Jr. where AIBA admitted judges took bribes in favor of South Korean boxers. I won't even talk about pro boxing.), college basketball (the scandals have been plenty since the 1950's), ice skating, and MLB (Pete Rose).

Don't tell me that Pete Rose who has admitted on beting on his team could not "fix" a game faster than a game official.

Plus don't give me generalizations on a series or a number of seasons in which calls were incorrect and thus they were fixed. Jerry Kramer was probably offsides during the Ice Bowl, Laettner should have been ejected in the 1992 East Regional Final, Marvelous Marvin Hagler did beat Sugar Ray Leonard on points, and not every Soviet/UnifiedRussian pairs figure skaters should not have dominated the Olympics every games since 1964. But results are results.

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Did you watch the NBA in the 90s.

Jordan could choke someone in the 4th quarter and not get called for a foul but if you breath on Jordan you would get hit with a flagrant.

Actually I did and we are close to the same age. So therefore it is "fixed"? Why would you not watch the WWE but would gladly see the NBA if both were "fixed"? Should it legally be classified as "Sports Entertainment" and regulated differently? Player bias aside, it may exist, as it does in all sports where there is subjective judges or officials. Boxing (1998 Summer Olympics gold medal fight with Roy Jones, Jr. where AIBA admitted judges took bribes in favor of South Korean boxers. I won't even talk about pro boxing.), college basketball (the scandals have been plenty since the 1950's), ice skating, and MLB (Pete Rose).

Don't tell me that Pete Rose who has admitted on beting on his team could not "fix" a game faster than a game official.

Plus don't give me generalizations on a series or a number of seasons in which calls were incorrect and thus they were fixed. Jerry Kramer was probably offsides during the Ice Bowl, Larettner should have been ejected in the 1992 East Regional Final, Marvelous Marvin Hagler did beat Sugar Ray Leonard on points, and not every Soviet/UnifiedRussian pairs figure skaters should not have dominated the Olympics every games since 1964. But results are results.

Rudy was offsides....

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Calling touch fouls on one letting the other get away with nearly body checking. Not calling walks when its clear and getting someone for every extra step on the other. The refs can fix NBA games easier then any other sport.

See 2002 Western Conference Finals when the Refs won it for the Lakers.

*whistle*

Can you stop doing that?

Tank's wrong, by the way. Yeah, there was some deference given to the Lakers against the Kings, but the Kings did their fair share of tanking. Same with the Blazers the year before. If bad teams can't win against good teams, the Warriors wouldn't have crushed the Mavs, the Nuggets wouldn't have upset the Sonics, and the Knicks, well, nevermind, the Knicks still would have beat the Heat all those years.

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Calling touch fouls on one letting the other get away with nearly body checking. Not calling walks when its clear and getting someone for every extra step on the other. The refs can fix NBA games easier then any other sport.

See 2002 Western Conference Finals when the Refs won it for the Lakers.

*whistle*

Can you stop doing that?

Can I? Yes.

Will I? If it keeps bothering you, no.

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Wow. So the Warriors beat Dallas like they flippin stole something. Ho Lee crap. Im definately not claiming to be a die hard warriors fan, truth is, who in the bay area really was a "die hard" Warriors fan before this series? But I will say this is the most interested and mildly excited ive been about NBA basketball in quite awhile. GS has the winner of the Rockets Jazz series, who have both looked really flat as of yet and the Warriors have been nothing short of on fire. Ive really got a good feeling about this team, and the best part is all of the next steps are just a plus. The Warriors were not supposed to win and nobody outside of East Bay even gave them a second look. Congrats Warriors, enjoy this one because you truely deserve it.

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Did you watch the NBA in the 90s.

Jordan could choke someone in the 4th quarter and not get called for a foul but if you breath on Jordan you would get hit with a flagrant.

Actually I did and we are close to the same age. So therefore it is "fixed"? Why would you not watch the WWE but would gladly see the NBA if both were "fixed"? Should it legally be classified as "Sports Entertainment" and regulated differently? Player bias aside, it may exist, as it does in all sports where there is subjective judges or officials. Boxing (1998 Summer Olympics gold medal fight with Roy Jones, Jr. where AIBA admitted judges took bribes in favor of South Korean boxers. I won't even talk about pro boxing.), college basketball (the scandals have been plenty since the 1950's), ice skating, and MLB (Pete Rose).

Don't tell me that Pete Rose who has admitted on beting on his team could not "fix" a game faster than a game official.

Plus don't give me generalizations on a series or a number of seasons in which calls were incorrect and thus they were fixed. Jerry Kramer was probably offsides during the Ice Bowl, Larettner should have been ejected in the 1992 East Regional Final, Marvelous Marvin Hagler did beat Sugar Ray Leonard on points, and not every Soviet/UnifiedRussian pairs figure skaters should not have dominated the Olympics every games since 1964. But results are results.

... Or the Julio Cesar Chavez vs. Meldrick Taylor fight that was called by the official with two seconds in Chavez's favor despite his being well behind in the scorecards. Or also on the subject of boxing, Floyd Mayweather Jr. having to settle for Bronze in 1996 because he "lost" a fight that everybody but the judges seem to think he won (by the way, I know it's probably just a typo but Jones Jr. got screwed in '88, not '98). Not that these additional screwjobs/possible fixes I've mentioned add anything, but I'd say boxing is very easily the easiest sport to fix, if one wanted.

But I think it's impossible to ignore what happens in the NBA when the circumstances seem to call for it in order for a series or game to go in the direction of what's best for the League in terms of viewership.

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I will say this about the Warriors fan base they deserve to have one again after 16 years of incompetence they finally are back on tack.

As for Dallas inexcusable to lose like that, I can see if it was close games, but the Mavericks looked like the 8th seed not in the playoffs for 13 years. Pathetic and Dirk may get the MVP, but his rep is now mud.

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Wow. So the Warriors beat Dallas like they flippin stole something. Ho Lee crap. Im definately not claiming to be a die hard warriors fan, truth is, who in the bay area really was a "die hard" Warriors fan before this series? But I will say this is the most interested and mildly excited ive been about NBA basketball in quite awhile. GS has the winner of the Rockets Jazz series, who have both looked really flat as of yet and the Warriors have been nothing short of on fire. Ive really got a good feeling about this team, and the best part is all of the next steps are just a plus. The Warriors were not supposed to win and nobody outside of East Bay even gave them a second look. Congrats Warriors, enjoy this one because you truely deserve it.

A lot of these bandwagoneers were persona-non-grata during the Garry St. Jean, Brian Winters heydays.

But, whatever, it's high time the Warriors franchise earned something like this. Let 'em enjoy it.

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I will say this about the Warriors fan base they deserve to have one again after 16 years of incompetence they finally are back on tack.

So when will the Devils get a fan base?

That was not necessary I was not insulting the Warriors. You seem to have a real hard on for everything I say.

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The Bulls just got destroyed by the Pistons tonight. They were completely overmatched on rebounds, in which they controlled over the Pistons in the regular season. The Bulls bench played terribly, only hitting a couple of shots. If they are going to win Game 2, they need a better performance from the bench. They can beat the Pistons, but they need to limit mistakes, control the glass, and get better play from their bench.

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