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Nice, what about one of his players that sign an LOI, and then have a change of heart? No easy out for them, is there?

Fair enough. Dononvan should have to sit out a year. :D

Seriously though...I may be wrong about this, but doesn't a player have a chance to get out of a letter of intent as long as that player does it before they have officially enrolled or before the season officially starts? I thought I had heard that somewhere. Example, say Greg Oden signs a LOI to play at Ohio State in April but changes his mind in May. Isn't he allowed to get out of the LOI because he hasn't enrolled Ohio State? I'm not sure of the actual rule but I thought getting out of an LOI doesn't necessarily mean sitting out a season. So the players may not be as stuck as it would appear. Anyone know the actual rule on this?

 

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wonder what made him want to change his mind?

Probably the idea of going 38-44 every year, having to deal with a GM, players making 3 times what he makes, playing to half empty arenas and being just another NBA coach. He has a great gig at Florida and he knows it. Billy Donovan can go down in history as a great college coach, right up there with Coach K, Bob Knight, Jim Boeheim etc. Maybe in the end that meant more than being another college coach who goes on to become an at best mediocre NBA coach. It was a bad move and everyone knew it. Luckily for himself and The Magic, Billy Donovan figured that out before it was too late. No harm was done here. Give the guy a break, in the end he followed his conscience instead of chasing the money. Both parties may be a little embarassed but nobody died or anything. It's just a job.

Nice, what about one of his players that sign an LOI, and then have a change of heart? No easy out for them, is there?

Point is, the guy signed a contract. He should have thought of all of this before putting pen to paper. And UF was so damn important to him, why entertain the Magic's entreaties at all? Why not have signed the new Florida contract already. According to all reports, it's been "ready for weeks".

What a flake. Man up and honor your contract YOU SIGNED.

It's funny. If he mans up and honors his contract and does terribly everyone will go YOU'RE A HACK! YOU SUCK! If he backs out everyone goes YOU DIDN'T HONOR YOUR CONTRACT YOU'RE A WUS!

Face it...the man has earned the right to do what's best for him. It doesn't make him less of a man to realize the situation was bad for him. In fact, that makes him more intelligent. If you're running headlong into a suicide mission...backing out doesn't make you a wus, it makes you smart!

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...Says the guy who has UF tattooed on his forehead.

I wouldn't want to play for him either way. I'm not an athlete, of course, so it doesn't matter, but I think coaches have the most responsibility of anyone on the team. What does it say when the coach is waffling back and forth on where he really wants to be? He strays from UF even once, that's it, he's always on the lookout for something better. If I were a UF booster, I'd be pissed.

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...Says the guy who has UF tattooed on his forehead.

I wouldn't want to play for him either way. I'm not an athlete, of course, so it doesn't matter, but I think coaches have the most responsibility of anyone on the team. What does it say when the coach is waffling back and forth on where he really wants to be? He strays from UF even once, that's it, he's always on the lookout for something better. If I were a UF booster, I'd be pissed.

Says the guy who always pissed off about something or another... :D

 

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...Says the guy who has UF tattooed on his forehead.

I wouldn't want to play for him either way. I'm not an athlete, of course, so it doesn't matter, but I think coaches have the most responsibility of anyone on the team. What does it say when the coach is waffling back and forth on where he really wants to be? He strays from UF even once, that's it, he's always on the lookout for something better. If I were a UF booster, I'd be pissed.

Says the guy who always pissed off about something or another... :D

... says the guy whose team lost to Donovan's team in the national championship game... :oops:

I saw, I came, I left.

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He changed his mind with 48 days not even a business day, I say let go let him go back to Gainesville maybe he will be there for 20 years, he apparently loves in there since he is not going to make as much money. The Gators have not hired anyone new yet, and thats where he wants to be.

The Magic need a Coach who is committed mentally, and Donovan will never be that, so let him go no money changes hands it will be like it never happened.

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If you're running headlong into a suicide mission...backing out doesn't make you a wus, it makes you smart!

It wasn't a suicide mission. It wasn't like he signed up to coach the Knicks, he bolted for a team with an All-Star, cap space, and high potential (and a boatload of cash). Then for whatever reason, he decided, after committing to the Magic, that this might tarnish his legacy and that maybe he wouldn't get to exercise the megalomaniacal control that he got as a college coach, and flaked out, leaving both the University of Florida and the Orlando Magic standing there with their pants down, if you pardon the expression. That's just not fair, and displays a real lack of integrity. Like somebody said, you wouldn't laud a student for committing to a school and bolting.

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...Says the guy who has UF tattooed on his forehead.

I wouldn't want to play for him either way. I'm not an athlete, of course, so it doesn't matter, but I think coaches have the most responsibility of anyone on the team. What does it say when the coach is waffling back and forth on where he really wants to be? He strays from UF even once, that's it, he's always on the lookout for something better. If I were a UF booster, I'd be pissed.

Says the guy who always pissed off about something or another... :D

... says the guy whose team lost to Donovan's team in the national championship game... :oops:

Yeah but I'm not pissed about it. :P

 

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wonder what made him want to change his mind?

Probably the idea of going 38-44 every year, having to deal with a GM, players making 3 times what he makes, playing to half empty arenas and being just another NBA coach. He has a great gig at Florida and he knows it. Billy Donovan can go down in history as a great college coach, right up there with Coach K, Bob Knight, Jim Boeheim etc. Maybe in the end that meant more than being another college coach who goes on to become an at best mediocre NBA coach. It was a bad move and everyone knew it. Luckily for himself and The Magic, Billy Donovan figured that out before it was too late. No harm was done here. Give the guy a break, in the end he followed his conscience instead of chasing the money. Both parties may be a little embarassed but nobody died or anything. It's just a job.

Nice, what about one of his players that sign an LOI, and then have a change of heart? No easy out for them, is there?

Point is, the guy signed a contract. He should have thought of all of this before putting pen to paper. And UF was so damn important to him, why entertain the Magic's entreaties at all? Why not have signed the new Florida contract already. According to all reports, it's been "ready for weeks".

What a flake. Man up and honor your contract YOU SIGNED.

It's funny. If he mans up and honors his contract and does terribly everyone will go YOU'RE A HACK! YOU SUCK! If he backs out everyone goes YOU DIDN'T HONOR YOUR CONTRACT YOU'RE A WUS!

Face it...the man has earned the right to do what's best for him. It doesn't make him less of a man to realize the situation was bad for him. In fact, that makes him more intelligent. If you're running headlong into a suicide mission...backing out doesn't make you a wus, it makes you smart!

Blah blah blah, I drop to my knees in front of anything Gators, blah blah blah. Face it mack, Donovan is a schmuck. He jumped the gun and signed a contract only to puss out a few days later. And I could care less if hes a UFer. He could have been coaching the Vols and id think the same thing. In the real world (non sports world) if you sign any kind of a deal only to back out of it just days later you'd get buried. What he did was weak, and for Florida to take him back only shows what kind of weak charictar and low class they have.

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Donovan is a p***y. That's all he is. He is a grown man who should know all of the intangibles and details in a contract before signing it. If the Magic let him go, that's p***y s***t, but then again almost everyone out there doesn't honor a contract, so it wouldn't surprise me if they let him go and don't want to look like a s***bag organization (I know some sources are saying they will let him go.) I hope the Magic step up and make this prick honor his contract. Dumb :censored: should have realized that he wanted to stay at Florida before he signed. F*** Donovan, f*** this s***. Why even have contracts nowadays? Nobody honors them, and people are let out or let go seemingly all the time. F*** you Billy Donovan. If he won't honor the contract, ban his sorry ass from the NBA for the duration of the contract, five whole years.

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Donovan is a p***y. That's all he is. He is a grown man who should know all of the intangibles and details in a contract before signing it. If the Magic let him go, that's p***y s***t, but then again almost everyone out there doesn't honor a contract, so it wouldn't surprise me if they let him go and don't want to look like a s***bag organization (I know some sources are saying they will let him go.) I hope the Magic step up and make this prick honor his contract. Dumb :censored: should have realized that he wanted to stay at Florida before he signed. F*** Donovan, f*** this s***. Why even have contracts nowadays? Nobody honors them, and people are let out or let go seemingly all the time. F*** you Billy Donovan. If he won't honor the contract, ban his sorry ass from the NBA for the duration of the contract, five whole years.

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Nice try. Could you elaborate your opinion in actual coherent English this time?

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I don't really see the big deal. I mean, I know it's not a great situation for anybody. And maybe the Magic has to put on a little show to save face, but if I have a signed contract from a coach who doesn't want to coach my team, I'm glad he wants out of it. I want a coach whose heart is completely in his job. The guy that's thinking about Orlando Magic basketball between courses at dinner time. That guy is Billy Donovan, head coach of the Florida men's basketball team. He's probably not Billy Donovan, head coach of the Orlando Magic. Perhaps, for Orlando, it can be Stan Van. If so, good for them. With that said, if I'm Orlando, I'm doing everything I can to make sure Donovan doesn't coach in the NBA until what would have been the end of that signed contract.

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Donovan is a p***y. That's all he is. He is a grown man who should know all of the intangibles and details in a contract before signing it. If the Magic let him go, that's p***y s***t, but then again almost everyone out there doesn't honor a contract, so it wouldn't surprise me if they let him go and don't want to look like a s***bag organization (I know some sources are saying they will let him go.) I hope the Magic step up and make this prick honor his contract. Dumb :censored: should have realized that he wanted to stay at Florida before he signed. F*** Donovan, f*** this s***. Why even have contracts nowadays? Nobody honors them, and people are let out or let go seemingly all the time. F*** you Billy Donovan. If he won't honor the contract, ban his sorry ass from the NBA for the duration of the contract, five whole years.

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Nice try. Could you elaborate your opinion in actual coherent English this time?

Donovan is a baby. That's all he is. He is a grown man who should know all of the intangibles and details in a contract before signing it. If the Magic let him go, that is not right, but then again almost everyone out there does not honor a contract, so it wouldn't surprise me if they let him go and do not want to look like a bad or selfish organization (I know some sources are saying they will let him go.) I hope the Magic step up and make this guy honor his contract. Donovan should not have jumped the gun here by signing this contract with the Magic and should have realized that he wanted to stay at Florida before signing. This is ridiculous. Donovan is ridiculous. Why even have contracts nowadays? Nobody honors them, and people are let out or let go seemingly all the time. I do not like you Billy Donovan. If he won't honor the contract, ban him from the NBA for the duration of the contract, five whole years.

Good enough for you, Fred? The first post sure looked coherent, but this one is sans cursing and not expressed in as angry of a way, so have at it.

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...Says the guy who has UF tattooed on his forehead.

I wouldn't want to play for him either way. I'm not an athlete, of course, so it doesn't matter, but I think coaches have the most responsibility of anyone on the team. What does it say when the coach is waffling back and forth on where he really wants to be? He strays from UF even once, that's it, he's always on the lookout for something better. If I were a UF booster, I'd be pissed.

Says the guy who always pissed off about something or another... :D

... says the guy whose team lost to Donovan's team in the national championship game... :oops:

...says the guy who... um... put my initial into his avatar... :wub: (EVERYBODY! It's the fun new thread game on the S.I.G. board! Who's next?!?!)

Anyway, what happens to Donovan is largely up to the Magic at this point. Certainly, they won't make him honor any part of that contract - who'd want a lame-duck coach for as long as 5 years? And the NBA intimating that he'll be "banned" from coaching in the NBA for however long will have ZERO deterrent effect on a guy who clearly wants no part of the NBA, not while he's built a wonderful fiefdom for himself in college ball. The penalties are going to have to be financial, and they should hit him hard. It sets a poor example if Donovan is allowed to take a job, sign a contract, then bail on it. The Magic thought they had their man, and there were hundreds of new season ticketholders willing to pony up a lot of cash to show their appreciation for the hire. If you're having qualms about taking the job, don't sign the contract, moron!

Ultimately, Billy belongs in college ball. But it shouldn't be this easy for him to leave a program he turned into a national power on a whim, then return to that same program as if nothing ever happened. His thoughtless actions had consequences, and he should be held to answer for them.

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Donovan is a p***y. That's all he is. He is a grown man who should know all of the intangibles and details in a contract before signing it. If the Magic let him go, that's p***y s***t, but then again almost everyone out there doesn't honor a contract, so it wouldn't surprise me if they let him go and don't want to look like a s***bag organization (I know some sources are saying they will let him go.) I hope the Magic step up and make this prick honor his contract. Dumb :censored: should have realized that he wanted to stay at Florida before he signed. F*** Donovan, f*** this s***. Why even have contracts nowadays? Nobody honors them, and people are let out or let go seemingly all the time. F*** you Billy Donovan. If he won't honor the contract, ban his sorry ass from the NBA for the duration of the contract, five whole years.

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The NBA does not need to ban him. He will never get another job offer from the league again.

I don't know that to be so - certainly if he keeps winning in college, some team will be desperate enough to take a flyer on him.

I do think that the Magic have every right to insist on a five-year non-compete to let him out of his contract.

If the Magic had called Donovan a couple days after the press conference and said "Sorry, we thought about it and decided that we really wanted this other guy, and we're going to sign him" Donovan would have had every right to insist that they honor the financial terms of the contract, wouldn't he?

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