Milo Meningocele Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 Today on ESPN.com:Sheffield says Latin players easier to control than blacksThis is another great example of why I pulled my allegiance away from the Tigers the minute I heard of their offseason trade for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadragon76 Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 Is that what I think it is in your avatar???ROAR!!! Must kill... Smiling Bob!Anyway, I think Sheffeld is on to something here. Now, I don't exactly agree with the 'control' theory, but he may have something when it comes to a situation between a Latin player and a African-American player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coast2CoastAM2006 Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 I have no idea where he gets the idea that teams prefer hispanic or latino players over blacks because they are easier to control than blacks are and that is the reason for a low percentage of blacks in baseball. Unless he is trying to imply teams are knowingly discriminating against blacks in favor of hispanic or latin players. Now if he is trying to make that point well baseball does have a nice little history and tradition of discrimination against blacks. My personal feeling on the situation is that the interest in baseball in the black community has shifted from baseball to basketball and football. I just think the younger crowd simply doesnt have the interest in baseball as the older crowd does, and the youth of that demographic are more interested in basketball and football. However filling in that void is hispanic or latino 1st or 2nd generation immigrants. The reason there is a rising interest in baseball in the hispanic community is because its wildly popular in there native countries. I'm surprised there isn't more japanese players in baseball given popularity of it in Japan. so i'm not sure if I totally agree with his assesment as to why there are fewer blacks in baseball, i just think its more a shift in the demographics and interest in baseball. Spoilers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshawaggie Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 So lemme get this straight.. Sheff is saying there is less blacks basically because they need to act a certain way, and in baseball they dont want them to act that way, so they try to control them, and they dont wanna be controlled the same way whites/hispanics/asains are. OK. @josh_j12 CFA- Fargo Bobcats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 This should be dovetailed with Dusty Baker's sociology, stating that his Cubs teams did poorly in April and May because Latin players were used to the heat, and white players were better suited to the cold.I smell a joint study forthcoming! On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC97 Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 I smell a jointhmm --- Chris Creamer Founder/Editor, SportsLogos.Net "The Mothership" • News • Facebook • X/Twitter • Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HatManTC Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 why do we let athelets talk? i really wonder what he means by how they act. sounds like he's being a bit racist towards his own people to me. to me the popularity of the NFL and NBA has a ton to do with the fact that black youths dont play ball. also add in the fact that the players went on strike in the recent years, doesnt help that either. by RoscoeUA by gingerbreadman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 I'm assuming you're white, right? You're not my own people. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 I'm pretty sure there are less blacks playing in the major leagues because there are less blacks PLAYING BASEBALL IN GENERAL. Make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 I smell a jointhmm....So let's get to the point, let's roll another joint.... I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 easily controlled ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EatSleepJeep Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 I called it years ago. What I called is that you're going to see more black faces, but there ain't no English going to be coming out. … [it's about] being able to tell [Latin players] what to do -- being able to control them.1) That's not English either, Gary. I'm not sure what that is.2) If that's to be believed, he predicted more blacks - but now he's saying there's less - so what exactly did he "call"?Where I'm from, you can't control us. You might get a guy to do it that way for a while because he wants to benefit, but in the end, he is going to go back to being who he is. And that's a person that you're going to talk to with respect, you're going to talk to like a man.1) By this logic, basically the blacks follow the coaches' rules and baseball's laws until their established and then they aren't going to abide anymore. How is that good for the team?2) The guy that acts like a spoiled child into his later life is going to be respected more as a man? I'm not buying it.These are the things my race demands. So, if you're equally good as this Latin player, guess who's going to get sent home? I know a lot of players that are home now can outplay a lot of these guys."1) A player that doesn't respond to coaching/authority is a liability toa team, no matter how talented he is.2) But because they can't be coached or break rules & laws, the owners don't want them. Go figure, Gary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedsunited Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 This should be dovetailed with Dusty Baker's sociology, stating that his Cubs teams did poorly in April and May because Latin players were used to the heat, and white players were better suited to the cold.I smell a joint study forthcoming!Give these noted sociologists a FAT RESEARCH GRANT, NOW!I smell a jointhmmAnd suddenly this thread turned for the better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Oh, you wacky Canadians and your marginally-illegal reefer, I tell ya. On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winghaz Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 The reason Hispanic -- particularly Caribbean -- players are so good is that they play baseball over and over and over again since they are like 5 years old, or even younger. It doesn't take a rocket scientist or a great sociologist like Gary Sheffield to figure that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamikel Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Unless he is trying to imply teams are knowingly discriminating against blacks in favor of hispanic or latin players.Maybe Bud Selig's been taking business advice from shady construction companies? I think it definitely has a lot to do with lack of interest in the sport as compared to football and basketball. Of course, you could blame baseball for this in losing the battle for the imaginations of the black community (and everywhere else, for that matter.) The NCAA doesn't help either, since they offer such a small number of scholarships for baseball. Really, if you're banking on an athletic scholarship to get you through college, which sport are you going to choose, the one with 75 per team or the one with 12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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