MLB 2007 All Star Game Thread

[patsox]

Damn, you got me.

[FiddySicks]

AL: Lackey, Sabathia, or Beckett? It's obvious where my vote goes(*coughlackeycough*)

Im sorry, but you are straight ridiculous if you dont have Danny Haren starting for the AL. Sabathia, Beckett, and Lackey are all killer pitchers this season, but Haren is posting a 1.58 ERA and making batters look like whiny little schoolgirls. If he doesn't start there is something severely wrong with the way the ASG is set up.......... Oh wait.......

[Billy B]

I'm not going to bother voting, because the right guys won't get in, but this is how I think the rosters should be. This is the AL, I'll put up my NL roster tomorrow.

AL

Starters

C- Posada (NYY)

1B- Morneau (MIN)

2B- Roberts (BAL)

3B- Rodriguez (NYY)

SS- Cabrera (LAA)

OF- Ordenez (DET)

OF- Ichiro (SEA)

OF- Hunter (MIN)

Bench

C- Martinez (CLE)

1B- Youkilis (BOS)

1B-Texiera (TEX) INJURED

3B- Teahen (TEX)

SS- Jeter (NYY)

OF- Sheffield (DET)

OF- Rios (TOR)

OF- Guerrero (LAA)

Pitchers

SP- Haren (OAK)

Beckett (BOS)

Lackey (LAA)

Sabathia (CLE)

Shields (TB)

Jenks (CHW)

Rodriguez (LAA)

Papelbon (BOS)

Reyes (TB)

CL- Putz (SEA)

[Nick 1733]

Fine. If I were to choose one, it would be Josh Beckett from seeing him on a daily basis.

Too bad your boy Beckett got smoked by Garret Atkins and the lowly Rockies today.

[whalersjets]

Fine. If I were to choose one, it would be Josh Beckett from seeing him on a daily basis.

Too bad your boy Beckett got smoked by Garret Atkins and the lowly Rockies today.

Oh how dare he have one bad game.

[Nick 1733]

Fine. If I were to choose one, it would be Josh Beckett from seeing him on a daily basis.

Too bad your boy Beckett got smoked by Garret Atkins and the lowly Rockies today.

Oh how dare he have one bad game.

It's not that he just had a bad game... he went into the game without a loss... pitching at HOME... and got smoked by, of all teams, the friggin' Rockies.

[FiddySicks]

Fine. If I were to choose one, it would be Josh Beckett from seeing him on a daily basis.

Too bad your boy Beckett got smoked by Garret Atkins and the lowly Rockies today.

Oh how dare he have one bad game.

When he's competing with Haren for the starting spot on the All Star team, yeah, how dare him really kinda sums it up.

[Billy B]

This is what the NL roster SHOULD look like.

STARTERS

C-Martin (LAD)

1B-Fielder (MIL)

2B-Utley (PHI)

3B-Cabrera (FLA)

SS-Ramirez (FLA)

OF-Holliday (COL)

OF-Lee (HOU)

OF-Griffey (CIN)

Bench

C- Molina (SF)

1B- Pujols (STL)

2B- Uggla (FLA)

3B- Zimmerman (WAS)

SS- Hardy (MIL)

OF- Byrnes (ARI)

OF- Soriano (CHC)

OF- Dunn (CIN)

Pitchers

SP-Peavy (SD)

Penny (LAD)

Hill (CHC)

Hamels (PHI)

Snell (PIT)

Smoltz (ATL)

Saito (LAD)

Hoffman (SD)

CL- Cordero (MIL)

[WJMorris3]

My All-Star Rosters (starters in italics) are as follows. (NOTE: I limit all teams to a maximum of five all-stars.)

AMERICAN LEAGUE

C: Victor Martinez, Jorge Posada

1B: Mark Teixeira, Justin Morneau, Kevin Youkilis

2B: Placido Polanco, Aaron Hill, B.J. Upton

3B: Alex Rodriguez, Ty Wigginton

SS: Jhonny Peralta, Carlos Guillen

LF: Hideki Matsui, Carl Crawford

CF: Ichiro, Torii Hunter

RF: Vladimir Guerrero, Magglio Ordonez, Alex Rios, Mark Teahen

SP: Danny Haren, Josh Beckett, Eric Bedard, John Lackey, C.C. Sabathia, Johan Santana, Justin Verlander

MR: Hideki Okajima, Scot Shields

CL: Bobby Jenks, J.J. Putz, Francisco Rodriguez

NATIONAL LEAGUE

C: Russell Martin, Bengie Molina

1B: Prince Fielder, Albert Pujols, Dmitri Young

2B: Dan Uggla, Brandon Phillips

3B: Miguel Cabrera, David Wright

SS: J.J. Hardy, Edgar Renteria, Jose Reyes

LF: Matt Holliday, Adam Dunn, Carlos Lee, Alfonso Soriano

CF: Juan Pierre, Carlos Beltran

RF: Ken Griffey Jr., Brad Hawpe

SP: Jake Peavy, Matt Morris, Brad Penny, John Smoltz, Ian Snell, Chris Young

MR: Heath Bell, Derek Turnbow

CL: Francisco Cordero, Brian Fuentes, Trevor Hoffman, Jose Valverde

[See Red]

Fine. If I were to choose one, it would be Josh Beckett from seeing him on a daily basis.

Too bad your boy Beckett got smoked by Garret Atkins and the lowly Rockies today.

Oh how dare he have one bad game.

When he's competing with Haren for the starting spot on the All Star team, yeah, how dare him really kinda sums it up.

I don't buy into Billy Beane being the great GM he's made out to be -- the A's offense is dreadful and was last year too* -- but he sure is great at drafting pitchers. Haren should be the starter -- even if Beckett hadn't gotten drilled by the Rockies, who have an extremely capable offense, Haren would be the starter.

*Beane was right about Youkilis, though.

On another note, a slow start has ruined his chance at making the team but watch out for Dustin Pedroia, the Red Sox rookie 2B, in the second half.

Kid is raking the ball right now.

[Patrick L. Kennedy]

I don't buy into Billy Beane being the great GM he's made out to be -- the A's offense is dreadful and was last year too* -- but he sure is great at drafting pitchers. Haren should be the starter -- even if Beckett hadn't gotten drilled by the Rockies, who have an extremely capable offense, Haren would be the starter.

*Beane was right about Youkilis, though.

On another note, a slow start has ruined his chance at making the team but watch out for Dustin Pedroia, the Red Sox rookie 2B, in the second half.

Kid is raking the ball right now.

Billy Beane is an excellent General Manager, by far the best in baseball. Bite your tounge.

And if the Rays do not get more than their obligatory one all-star this year, I will be pissed.

[See Red]

He doesn't have any rings. He's drafted great starting pitching and rode them to his great reputation. He deserves credit for the pitching staff he's assembled, but the 'moneyball' lineups he's assembled have been abysmal these past two years -- among the league's worst, even.

[WJMorris3]

I don't buy into Billy Beane being the great GM he's made out to be -- the A's offense is dreadful and was last year too* -- but he sure is great at drafting pitchers. Haren should be the starter -- even if Beckett hadn't gotten drilled by the Rockies, who have an extremely capable offense, Haren would be the starter.

*Beane was right about Youkilis, though.

On another note, a slow start has ruined his chance at making the team but watch out for Dustin Pedroia, the Red Sox rookie 2B, in the second half.

Kid is raking the ball right now.

Billy Beane is an excellent General Manager, by far the best in baseball. Bite your tounge.

And if the Rays do not get more than their obligatory one all-star this year, I will be pissed.

I think this year they deserve three. That said, I expect them to get one myself.

[Patrick L. Kennedy]

I don't buy into Billy Beane being the great GM he's made out to be -- the A's offense is dreadful and was last year too* -- but he sure is great at drafting pitchers. Haren should be the starter -- even if Beckett hadn't gotten drilled by the Rockies, who have an extremely capable offense, Haren would be the starter.

*Beane was right about Youkilis, though.

On another note, a slow start has ruined his chance at making the team but watch out for Dustin Pedroia, the Red Sox rookie 2B, in the second half.

Kid is raking the ball right now.

Billy Beane is an excellent General Manager, by far the best in baseball. Bite your tounge.

And if the Rays do not get more than their obligatory one all-star this year, I will be pissed.

I think this year they deserve three. That said, I expect them to get one myself.

I don't know. I think they might get two. Jim Leyland seemed very impressed with Jamie Shields when he dominated Detroit earlier this year, so I've gotta figure he's on. The question mark is the second player. You could make a case for about three other Rays, the ones that come to mind are Upton, Reyes, and Pena.

[FiddySicks]

He doesn't have any rings. He's drafted great starting pitching and rode them to his great reputation. He deserves credit for the pitching staff he's assembled, but the 'moneyball' lineups he's assembled have been abysmal these past two years -- among the league's worst, even.

You work with what God has given you (God in this case being Wolff and Fisher). If Beene accually had a payroll worth a damn to work with he would be unstoppable. I think the thing Red Sox fans should be most dissapointed about is that they weren't able too hook Ole Billy a few years ago. So I agree with you, Oakland's offense has been far from stellar the past two seasons, but with the shallow bottom they have when it comes to the owners pockets its amazing they do as well as they do.

[See Red]

He doesn't have any rings. He's drafted great starting pitching and rode them to his great reputation. He deserves credit for the pitching staff he's assembled, but the 'moneyball' lineups he's assembled have been abysmal these past two years -- among the league's worst, even.

You work with what God has given you (God in this case being Wolff and Fisher). If Beene accually had a payroll worth a damn to work with he would be unstoppable. I think the thing Red Sox fans should be most dissapointed about is that they weren't able too hook Ole Billy a few years ago. So I agree with you, Oakland's offense has been far from stellar the past two seasons, but with the shallow bottom they have when it comes to the owners pockets its amazing they do as well as they do.

The thing us Red Sox fans should be disappointed about is that the man whom Beane inspired decided to cough up big money to Lugo and Drew.

I'd take Beane as a GM -- certainly over Epstein, whom I'm not crazy about. I'd like to see Beane work with the Red Sox payroll. Not to say I don't like Billy Beane but I think he's gotten to a status that should be reserved for guys with rings. He hadn't even won a playoff series until last year.

[pcgd]

Not sure if you thought this (the big three were drafted by beane) but Danny Haren wasn't drafted by Beane. He came to the A's in the Mark Mulder Trade. Mulder to the Cardinals for Haren, Daric Barton (Catcher in the Minors), and Kiko Calero.

Worked out to be a terrible trade for the Cardinals. It wasn't that great at the time (for STL), as Haren was one of hte best Pitching Prospects for the cardinals, Barton was the best hitting prospect (although blocked by a young Yadi Molina) and Kiko was one of their most solid relievers.

Beane destroyed Jocketty in that trade, that's for sure.

[HedleyLamarr]

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QUOTE(Billy B @ Friday, June 15th, 2007 - 19:10:17) ←

This is what the NL roster SHOULD look like.

STARTERS

C-Martin (LAD)

1B-Fielder (MIL)

2B-Utley (PHI)

3B-Cabrera (FLA)

SS-Ramirez (FLA)

OF-Holliday (COL)

OF-Lee (HOU)

OF-Griffey (CIN)

Bench

C- Molina (SF)

1B- Pujols (STL)

3B- Wright (NYM)

3B- Zimmerman (WAS)

SS- Hardy (MIL)

OF- Byrnes (ARI)

OF- Soriano (CHC)

OF- Dunn (CIN)

Pitchers

SP-Peavy (SD)

Penny (LAD)

Hill (CHC)

Hamels (PHI)

Snell (PIT)

Smoltz (ATL)

Saito (LAD)

Hoffman (SD)

CL- Cordero (MIL)

That looks about right, though I question the inclusion of two 3rd-basemen on the bench. Granted, I haven't looked at stats, but David Wright's spot should be given to a bench 2nd-baseman (Most likely Dan Uggla). Also, I don't think Soriano's done enough to get on the squad, he had a horrible April and May.

Though, to be honest, Renteria should get some serious consideration for the All-Star Game. He and Smoltz are the Braves' two best chances for All-Stars. Chipper would have been a shoe-in had he not gotten hurt and misses three weeks, and he still might make it onto the squad.

I wouldn't be suprised if, somehow, the Giants get two players on the team.

[BaltimoreFan]

No love for Jeremy Guthrie? He's been on fire with 8 straight quality starts and an 1.71 ERA as a starter. Roberts has also been great, but if the O's only get one player it should be Guthrie.

[Billy B]

Thanks for pointing that out. I would add Uggla instead of Wright. I think Wright has better stats than Zimmerman, but I needed a National on the team. Bonds will probably make the team, but I don't think he has done that good. Jason Bay could also be the last outfielder, but Soriano has picked it up a lot.