Is this Real or Fake?

[rmackman]

I figure there has to be something wrong with it, but I can't find anything off hand.

http://cgi.ebay.com/AUTHENTIC-RAMS-JEROME-...1QQcmdZViewItem

[andrewharrington]

the fonts are way off, for starters, so it's fake without a doubt.

[VC//]

Fizzake.

[sc49erfan15]

It's real.

Yes, both the number and name fonts are off, but the mid-90's weren't exactly perfection for most companies that made NFL authentics. (See: Korea-made Starter authentics from the same time period.) Just because a licensed company makes it and calls it "authentic" does NOT mean it's 100% accurate.

Sewn-in sleeve horns, all the Russell tagging, that baggy-shoulder cut that Russell authentics from that time had - all look good to me.

And, honestly, a fake wouldn't have a Russell jocktag, Russell logos on the sleeves, and the Russell tag at the neck. Either that, or the seller is REALLY detail-oriented.

The only thing I can't verify is that 75th anniversary patch, but the jersey is 100% legit.

[apeman33]

It's real.

Yes, both the number and name fonts are off, but the mid-90's weren't exactly perfection for most companies that made NFL authentics. (See: Korea-made Starter authentics from the same time period.) Just because a licensed company makes it and calls it "authentic" does NOT mean it's 100% accurate.

Sewn-in sleeve horns, all the Russell tagging, that baggy-shoulder cut that Russell authentics from that time had - all look good to me.

And, honestly, a fake wouldn't have a Russell jocktag, Russell logos on the sleeves, and the Russell tag at the neck. Either that, or the seller is REALLY detail-oriented.

The only thing I can't verify is that 75th anniversary patch, but the jersey is 100% legit.

I see it as a "replica," though not necessarily a "fake," for these reasons:

* - The numbers on a real Rams' jersey were not as square in Bettis' days. Those numbers were more like what you see now on, say the Kansas City Royals' uniforms. The numbers were shaped like this for a time in the 70's but they had evolved by the time the Rams met the Steelers in SB XIV.

* - The font on the nameplate is wrong also. It's too thick.

The way the jersey is constructed is authentic. But after the numbers and names were added, it lost that distinction. So for me, I call it a replica. I'd have still taken it, though, if I were a Bettis fan. The differences were such that only those of us who come here would pick on it.

[sc49erfan15]

I see it as a "replica," though not necessarily a "fake," for these reasons:

* - The numbers on a real Rams' jersey were not as square in Bettis' days. Those numbers were more like what you see now on, say the Kansas City Royals' uniforms. The numbers were shaped like this for a time in the 70's but they had evolved by the time the Rams met the Steelers in SB XIV.

* - The font on the nameplate is wrong also. It's too thick.

The way the jersey is constructed is authentic. But after the numbers and names were added, it lost that distinction. So for me, I call it a replica. I'd have still taken it, though, if I were a Bettis fan. The differences were such that only those of us who come here would pick on it.

So, by your distinction, any authentic Bears and Chiefs jersey currently sold by Reebok for $275 is a replica because they didn't get it 100% correct?

The jersey was made, marketed and sold in 1994 (assuming the 75th anniversary patch is original and real) as an authentic, so...it's an authentic. Every retail authentic Rams jersey from that era that I've seen has the incorrect name and number fonts.

[rmackman]

I see it as a "replica," though not necessarily a "fake," for these reasons:

* - The numbers on a real Rams' jersey were not as square in Bettis' days. Those numbers were more like what you see now on, say the Kansas City Royals' uniforms. The numbers were shaped like this for a time in the 70's but they had evolved by the time the Rams met the Steelers in SB XIV.

* - The font on the nameplate is wrong also. It's too thick.

The way the jersey is constructed is authentic. But after the numbers and names were added, it lost that distinction. So for me, I call it a replica. I'd have still taken it, though, if I were a Bettis fan. The differences were such that only those of us who come here would pick on it.

So, by your distinction, any authentic Bears and Chiefs jersey currently sold by Reebok for $275 is a replica because they didn't get it 100% correct?

The jersey was made, marketed and sold in 1994 (assuming the 75th anniversary patch is original and real) as an authentic, so...it's an authentic. Every retail authentic Rams jersey from that era that I've seen has the incorrect name and number fonts.

I see what he's saying, but I just don't feel right putting money down for an almost authentic. I guess if I REALLY liked the Rams I'd go for it, but I like to collect actual authentic jerseys so this won't fit that criteria.

[LEWJ]

Here's [what appears to be] the real stuff.

[sc49erfan15]

That's the "real stuff"...because that's a gamer.

Anything short of a game-issued jersey, the Bettis in the auction is as close as you're going to get for an original mid-90's authentic Rams jersey.

[leedsunited]

Wow, seeing those again reminded me how much I liked the old Rams look.

[tmorss9]

The white one is correct. The letters are Stahl's Varsity and the numbers are Stahl's Pro Block.

[Sodboy13]

I'm with 49er on this one. That jersey is as close as you'll get to wearing what was worn on the field at that time, outside of buying an actual gamer or shelling out $350 at Mitchell & Ness. Remember the era in which these jerseys were produced: Authentics ran in the $100-$180 range, Champion's replicas all used the Champion number font (except for the Bears) and had no sleeve/shoulder numbers, and I distinctly remember seeing a LogoAthletic Bettis replica in a store with numbers on the shoulders instead of inside the horns.

Buy it with no regrets at that price.

[SizzlinSabres]

I'm looking for a new Bills jersey since all our known players left, and I am finding all these "authentic" jerseys for like 25 bucks. They look perfectly normal, but do you think they are? I guess i don't really care if it actually is real since no one will ever notice or care.

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EDIT 2: I dont know what happened but that link is to ebay