gmat Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 I recently noticed that certain things on uniforms are accepted in one sport but considered hideous in others. For example:Piping has been used in baseball for years, but why can?t it be used in other sports?In football monochrome uniforms are terrible (according to most people on this board) yet in most other sports, monochrome is accepted.In fact football has teams with multi colors (pants, shirts, helmets) which are perfectly acceptable. Yet the Wizards look horrible like this.A captain C is acceptable in Hockey, yet it looks ridiculous when other sports use it.Side panels look good on NBA uniforms, but everybody hates them when they are used elsewhere.Why is this? Is it because we are used to seeing it this way? I only come around here once in a while to annoy you people, and by people I mean you mutha :censored:as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinMcD Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 I have another......-Pinstripes look great in Baseball, but horrible in the NBA.As to your question, Probably because of tradition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discrim Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 in hockey white shorts are laughed at. in baseball, pants that are any color other than white, gray or in the Padres' case khaki, are ridiculed. Most NBA teams wear plain white or plain black socks, regardless of team colors (the Nets' red socks being a notable exception, though only in the playoffs), while the other sports use team colors for socks.heh, that's all I could come up with. A strong mind gets high off success, a weak mind gets high off bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Am A Flaming Douche Bag Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 The C on Variteks jersey looks stupid. The C should only be in hockey imo and it looks really bad in basketball and baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otherwilds Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Side Panels on jerseys. Look good on most basketball tops but I despise them on football unis. My biggest complaint is they always look horrible on the less than svelte lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winghaz Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Imagine any other sport than baseball where the visiting team wears gray. Doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheo25 Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Imagine any other sport than baseball where the visiting team wears gray. Doesn't work.Flip side of post-60s baseball is two teams both wearing colored tops -- see Padres-Astros on Sunday among the many examples. But it's rare in football and hockey. It happens occasionally in basketball, mostly in the NBA. If it happens in college basketball, it's usually because one team is wearing yellow or orange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopard88 Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 This has almost everything to do with tradition and expectations. We become conditioned to expect uniforms in certain sports to look a certain way, so most of us reflexively resist anything that doesn't meet those expectations.A perfect example in my own life is that I loved the Braves' 714-era uniforms (blue jerseys, white front panel with lower case "a", etc.) and the Astros' "rainbow guts" uniforms when I first saw them. Now, with the wisdom (?) of experience behind me, I'm almost positive I would dislike both of them if they were introduced tomorrow. As a 5-7-year-old, I had very little conditioning as to what a baseball uniform "should" look like (the A's alternating green and yellow jerseys and the Royals/Cardinals/Phillies/Expos' powder blue road uniforms were perfectly natural to me). As a soon-to-be 40-year-old, I have been conditioned to expect that baseball uniforms are usually white/gray and have minimal striping/piping, with colored alternate jerseys being acceptable from time to time. Most Liked Content of the Day -- February 15, 2017, August 21, 2017, August 22, 2017   /////    Proud Winner of the CCSLC Post of the Day Award -- April 8, 2008 Originator of the Upside Down Sarcasm Smilie -- November 1, 2005  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallWonk Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Why is this? Is it because we are used to seeing it this way?Yes. Which is to say, most of the things you raise are nothing more than subjective personal bias unsupported by any attempt at rational thought or reference to any kind of design principles. (Which I don't say to condemn; I'm guilty of this sort of conservative if-I'm-used-to-it-it's-good thinking all the time too. But it is what it is, and none of us who approve of pinstripes in baseball, but not in other sports, and not other patterns in baseball, should pretend that our opinion on the matter is anything other than the complete and utter BS.)It's basically the same thing as the way that most of us will spend our lives believing that the music that we liked when we were 13 is the greatest music ever. We form most of our basic aesthetic opinions at an age when all people have terrible taste. None of us would allow a 13-year-old child to choose our clothes, yet we are all guilty of letting the 13-year-old we once were dictate our taste in sports uniforms. Witness the nostalgia for the crappy old ultra-generic Brewers uniforms, or quite possibly my own nostalgia for the maroon-era Phillies unis. However, I do think that some of these things can be supported by rational thought and basic design principles. Pinstripes in hockey is probably a good example: The way the players are in nearly constant motion makes their uniforms ill-suited to that kind of fine detail, whereas baseball players have longer periods of relatively little movement between shorter bursts of activity, so pinstripes "scan" better to fans and TV viewers. But I find that people here, myself included, very rarely make reference to any such rational, design-principle-based arguments when poo-pooing this or that innovative uniform design. And it's a fair assumption that if a rational appeal to principle would support an opinion you already have, but you express that opinion without reference to the principle, then your opinion almost certainly reflects the bias and not rational thought. Again, not to condemn: I plead guilty of this myself. The trick is being honest to oneself about the basis of one's opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philly soulfan04 Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Ads on soccer jerseys are fine, but on any jersey in the big 4 would make it seem like a laughingstock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Aside from both being sporting events played by teams of men, there's precious little that basketball and baseball actually share. Why should it be unexpected that the various sports should develop distinct aesthetics? The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyboy1 Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 For me, red shirts look fine in basketball, football and hockey, but always seem to look horrible in baseball, like the Twins, Red Sox and Braves. It's usually derided as being a "softball" look. Click here to read Third String Goalie - The Hockey Jersey of the Day Blog Click here to see my hockey and baseball jersey collection online ?You don?t like to see 20 kids punching 20 other kids. But it?s not a disgrace, It?s hockey.? - Michael Farber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discrim Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 heh, when they start wearing visors or headbands instead of caps, then I'm gonna call it a softball look. A strong mind gets high off success, a weak mind gets high off bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hecticbro Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 The C on Variteks jersey looks stupid. The C should only be in hockey imo and it looks really bad in basketball and baseball.That is for Catcher. Duh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtrich11 Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 In sumo wrestling it perfectly acceptable to wear a large diaper, but in other sports it is considered tacky.Ads on soccer jerseys are fine, but on any jersey in the big 4 would make it seem like a laughingstockI just can't get used to it. I wish it was banned here in the MLS. I think THAT'S tacky. Those new Herbalife, I mean Galaxy unis would look so much cleaner without. cafepress.com/artbyrichards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigboy1083 Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 The C on Variteks jersey looks stupid. The C should only be in hockey imo and it looks really bad in basketball and baseball.That is for Catcher. Duh!No, it is because he is the team captain. Please tell me that you were just trying to be funny. Thanks KaTo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webhamster Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Imagine any other sport than baseball where the visiting team wears gray. Doesn't work.I also think it works in baseball because the game isn't as fast. In hockey, teams in white and gray on white ice where they mix it up pretty fast would probably increase the number of giveaways because gray at a distance on white ice could look white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Reing Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Imagine any other sport than baseball where the visiting team wears gray. Doesn't work.I also think it works in baseball because the game isn't as fast. In hockey, teams in white and gray on white ice where they mix it up pretty fast would probably increase the number of giveaways because gray at a distance on white ice could look white.I agree. And there is rarely a time in baseball when teams gwt packed together. (on the boards, in the paint, on the line of scrimage, etc.) Baseball is so spread out--except during a bench clearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webhamster Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Imagine any other sport than baseball where the visiting team wears gray. Doesn't work.I also think it works in baseball because the game isn't as fast. In hockey, teams in white and gray on white ice where they mix it up pretty fast would probably increase the number of giveaways because gray at a distance on white ice could look white.I agree. And there is rarely a time in baseball when teams gwt packed together. (on the boards, in the paint, on the line of scrimage, etc.) Baseball is so spread out--except during a bench clearing.Not to mention television broadcasts. I could see it being pretty hard to distinguish hockey teams in those colours on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Imagine any other sport than baseball where the visiting team wears gray. Doesn't work.You're right about that:While some may not be convinced by this picture, I assure you that in person, it's an absolute disgrace... @Frenchie_TO Owner of the Rochester Americans of the MLH Owner of the Toronto Frenchies of the GCFHL6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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