FiddySicks Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 not to mention your everyday gangster may be making minimum wage the legit way however they have other ways of making income.To clarify: what the recent generation of serious economics research into criminal activity shows is that most full-time members of criminal enterprises, such as your average low-level drug dealer or enforcer or whatever, actually make less than the legal minimum wage on a per-hour basis. Factor in the relatively short periods of earning time available due to arrests, prison time, injuries, death, and whatnot, and it's a fantastically bad way to earn a living. Simply put, the average joe would be much better off, from a basic cash-in-the-wallet standpoint, working the counter at McDonald's than joining a gang and selling drugs. Very counterintuitive: You'd think that the criminal lifestyle would at least offer more ready cash than entry-level unskilled shift-work. But no.Well thats the reason for it in the first place. If it's true or not, the reason it has appeal is the supposed "Get rich quick" aspect of it. I cant tell you how many people I know who have been sent to prison for dealing drugs, only to go right back to it when they get out. So there has to be some level of ease with a quick cash flow involved. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 not to mention your everyday gangster may be making minimum wage the legit way however they have other ways of making income.To clarify: what the recent generation of serious economics research into criminal activity shows is that most full-time members of criminal enterprises, such as your average low-level drug dealer or enforcer or whatever, actually make less than the legal minimum wage on a per-hour basis. Factor in the relatively short periods of earning time available due to arrests, prison time, injuries, death, and whatnot, and it's a fantastically bad way to earn a living. Simply put, the average joe would be much better off, from a basic cash-in-the-wallet standpoint, working the counter at McDonald's than joining a gang and selling drugs. Very counterintuitive: You'd think that the criminal lifestyle would at least offer more ready cash than entry-level unskilled shift-work. But no.Well thats the reason for it in the first place. If it's true or not, the reason it has appeal is the supposed "Get rich quick" aspect of it. I cant tell you how many people I know who have been sent to prison for dealing drugs, only to go right back to it when they get out. So there has to be some level of ease with a quick cash flow involved.you took the words right out of my mouth, get rich quick. these guys arent genius', and unfortunately its become this society's MO, get your money now, think later. hell i think thats the slogan of more than a few sports teams owners. "I don't understand where you got this idea so deeply ingrained in your head (that this world) is something that you must impress, cause I couldn't care less"http://keepdcunited.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illwauk Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 When I worked at Lids in Santa Ana and Westminister we had similar problems with the "Bandito" (Yeah, thats great. Not only make a hat that promotes the gangster lifestyle and sell it in a highly hispanic area, but also give it a Spanish name, you know, be conspicious about it too) hat.Thats a bit unfair, no? I'm sure they sell the hat in most areas and not just stocking them in locations with higher Hispanic residents.Well I was just at a lids at a suburban mall and didn't see these hats there. But I bet I could find them at a few shops on the southside (the Latino community here in Milwaukee).2. Whatever happened to the days when gangsters tried to show their status by dressing up instead of down? Tailored suits, silk shirts, ties ... gangsters used to want to look like the richest guy in the room, like the mayor or Frank Sinatra, not like the poorest guy in the room. And it's not a race thing. Your average Italian, Russian, and other white gangsters dress like unemployed slobs these days too. At least the sociopaths of old had some style. ("Say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism, at least it was an ethos.")Wow, and I thought I sounded old when I wanted Minor League Baseball to matter again!But it's a good point. The Godfather, if made today, would look a WHOLE lot different. And would probably be terrible, too.HA! What happened to the days of fat shoe laces and break dancin'?WTF? fatboy laces are CLASSIC... they never go out of style.But yea... when I read the first post I was thinkin' "Great, another group of clueless people are witch hunting somethin' they don't understand" (this is the case 99% of the time you hear about somethin' negative having to do with hip hop in the media). But having actually seen the hats... let's just say I'm not sure I want to buy anything from new era again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wally1912 Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/25/nyregion...amp;oref=sloginAugust 25, 2007Yankee Caps Pulled After Protesters See Gang Links in Symbols and Colors By RICHARD SANDOMIRMajor League Baseball?s official cap manufacturer said yesterday that it would remove headwear bearing the colors and symbols of three gangs ? the Bloods, the Crips and the Latin Kings ? one day after activists protested the sale of the caps at retail stores in East Harlem.Two white Yankee caps made by New Era Cap were wrapped with red and blue bandannas that appear to represent the Bloods and Crips, and a black Yankee cap was embroidered with a crown symbolic of the Latin Kings. The Yankees said in a statement that they were unaware of the caps? gang symbolism and had no approval rights on their design. ?The New York Yankees oppose any garment that may be associated with gangs or gang-related activity,? the statement said. The team said it learned about the caps yesterday and contacted Major League Baseball, which had already taken action with New Era to recall the caps. A report about the caps and the protest in East Harlem appeared yesterday in The New York Post.?Our concern was that parents weren?t aware of the caps and their kids could get cut,? said Stan Koehler, the executive director of Peace on the Street, a martial arts academy and meditation center that works with gang members. Mr. Koehler was part of the group of 20 to 30 people who went to three stores in East Harlem that were selling the caps; one immediately removed them.Johnny Rivera, who led the rally, said he spotted the caps while shopping with his 11-year-old son a week ago, then walked around the neighborhood asking children what they thought they denoted. ?From 8 years old and up, they knew they represented violent gangs,? he said. New Era said it was surprised by what the cap designs signified. ?Recently, it has been brought to our attention that some combinations of icons and colors on a select number of our caps could be too closely perceived to be in association with gangs,? the company said in a statement. ?In response, we, along with Major League Baseball, have pulled those caps.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterE Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 ?Recently, it has been brought to our attention that some combinations of icons and colors on a select number of our caps could be too closely perceived to be in association with gangs,? the company said in a statement. ?In response, we, along with Major League Baseball, have pulled those caps.?Gee, I wonder what the chances of that happening are. It just so happened that we produced a hat that just happened to have a gang symbol of a bandana which we never knew could be associated with gang activity, as well as having these faux bandanas being colored the exact same way as two rival gangs. Who knew? Get Ron Santo in the Hall of Fame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewPF Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 i saw a guy today with the Red Sox version of the Latin Kings one. (which by the way isn't as horrendously ugly as the bloods and crips ones IMHO) http://i.imgur.com/4ahMZxD.png koizim said: And...and ya know what we gotta do? We gotta go kick him in da penis. He'll be injured. Injured bad. COYS and Go Sox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike2sana Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 ^^^^ yeah the kings one isnt THAT out there like the bloods and crips ones when i first saw those at the mall(a sox one) i just thought the sox were like the kings of the city or like you are glorifying your team. ATL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmat Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 The funny part about this whole story is that the marketing aspect was not very well thought out. While there are several thousand Latin Kings in NY, the Bloods and Crips don't really exist here. New Era probably should have made Dodger hats instead. I only come around here once in a while to annoy you people, and by people I mean you mutha :censored:as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedsunited Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 ?Recently, it has been brought to our attention that some combinations of icons and colors on a select number of our caps could be too closely perceived to be in association with gangs,? the company said in a statement. ?In response, we, along with Major League Baseball, have pulled those caps.?Gee, I wonder what the chances of that happening are. It just so happened that we produced a hat that just happened to have a gang symbol of a bandana which we never knew could be associated with gang activity, as well as having these faux bandanas being colored the exact same way as two rival gangs. Who knew?Slimy bastards. They've been pulling this for a few years now, gang-related designs. The bandanna-design was particularly egregrious, but they've been skirting around the demographic for awhile now. For them to claim surprise? They knew exactly what they were designed and who they were designing it for: gang bangers and impressionable youth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewPF Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 The funny part about this whole story is that the marketing aspect was not very well thought out. While there are several thousand Latin Kings in NY, the Bloods and Crips don't really exist here. New Era probably should have made Dodger hats instead.Crips ones with the Dodgers, Bloods ones with the Angels of Los Angeles of California of The USA of North America of Earth...et cetera http://i.imgur.com/4ahMZxD.png koizim said: And...and ya know what we gotta do? We gotta go kick him in da penis. He'll be injured. Injured bad. COYS and Go Sox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tp49 Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 The funny part about this whole story is that the marketing aspect was not very well thought out. While there are several thousand Latin Kings in NY, the Bloods and Crips don't really exist here. New Era probably should have made Dodger hats instead.Someone hasn't been in the Bronx, Brooklyn or Upper Manhattan lately. Slowly but surely the Crips and Bloods have infiltrated NYC to the point that they now have a decent presence in the poorer sections of the aforementioned boroughs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illwauk Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 The funny part about this whole story is that the marketing aspect was not very well thought out. While there are several thousand Latin Kings in NY, the Bloods and Crips don't really exist here. New Era probably should have made Dodger hats instead.Someone hasn't been in the Bronx, Brooklyn or Upper Manhattan lately. Slowly but surely the Crips and Bloods have infiltrated NYC to the point that they now have a decent presence in the poorer sections of the aforementioned boroughs.I remember reading an article in The Source (yes, I used to read that piece of s**t mag) years ago that told of Blood and Crip sets poppin' up in NYC that had no real connections to the actual Bloods and Crips out in Cali. My guess is this is the same thing... I can't imagine any of the established gangs in NYC allowing the actual Bloods and Crips to set up shop in their hoods.Also keep in mind that the same colors can mean different things in different cities. Around here, red and blue stand for Vice Lords and GD's, not bloods and crips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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