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Tampa Bay Rays unveil St. Petersburg ballpark design

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Looks nice, but seems like a waste of money to me. Tropicana is only what.. 12 years old? Wouldn't renovating Tropicana be much easier than rebuilding Al Lang field anyway?

Although Tropicana Field is entering it's 11th season for MLB in 2008, it was built far earlier than that. The Trop was initially began construction in 1986, with the intention to lure a relocated franchise. It was finished in 1990, still without any tenants. It took until 1993 to get a tenant, in this was the Tampa Bay Lightning NHL team. The stadium was renovated to accommodate the arena-style setting and the Lightning remained there until 1996 when they moved to their new arena in downtown Tampa. The Rays were awarded as a franchise in 1995 and began play in 1998, and have been the tenants ever since.

As you can see, the Trop is clearly past due, being that contruction began in 1986, that means the design plans for the Trop were about that old. The Trop is outdated among current trends and is past it's prime, even though the team is 11 years old next year

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Isnt Tropicana Field relatively new? And they talk about renovating it....for what? Who is going to use it if the Rays move into a new ballpark?

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Exactly how is the "roof" supposed to close or open? In the renderings, it's always closed. On ballparksofbaseball.com, it says it would close by way of the "Hoist Tower". But where does it go when it is opened? It meets at one point on the tower, and unless somebody manually unhooks it from there, it could only be up, as shown, or down on the field. I hope everybody understands what I'm saying.

I'm sure there is a way that it opens and closes correctly. I'd just like to know the process of the "roof" opening and closing, because right now, I'm confused about it.

All in all, though, I'm definately for them replacing the Trop. But I feel this design kind of reflects their new logos and uniforms. While decent and not necessarily bad, it's just kind of meh, and just kind of stopped short of good. However anything is better than the abandoned Home Depot, I mean Tropicana Field.

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Isnt Tropicana Field relatively new? And they talk about renovating it....for what? Who is going to use it if the Rays move into a new ballpark?

Nope.

Its almost 20 years old. It was pretty much outdated when it opened. Horribly designed IMO. They could renovate it, but I bet the cost would be so high that they'd be half way to a new stadium. I'd start from scratch if I were them.

Actually, I'd move the team if I were them...but then again, I'm NOT them. :D

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Is that a spread of netting covering the top of the ballpark?

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Is that a spread of netting covering the top of the ballpark?

I think it is.

Y'know, the more I look at the images the more I'm hating the whole 'netting' thing. I see the direct connection to sailing and boats...but in the end it looks way too overdone and annoying. The shadows that it will create will also look pretty annoying too. Not to mention that the beautiful views of the skyline will be obstructed.

I really hope they rethink it a bit and try to incoporate that feature in a much less obstructive way.

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Is that a spread of netting covering the top of the ballpark?

I think it is.

Y'know, the more I look at the images the more I'm hating the whole 'netting' thing. I see the direct connection to sailing and boats...but in the end it looks way too overdone and annoying. The shadows that it will create will also look pretty annoying too. Not to mention that they beautiful views of the skyline will be obstructed.

I really hope they rethink it a bit and try to incoporate that feature in a much less obstructive way.

It's supposed to be entirely transparent so as to protect from rain, but still look like it's uncovered. The wires would be about the only obstructive part, and I don't really know how obstructive they'd actually be. The skyline view wouldn't really change.

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Is that a spread of netting covering the top of the ballpark?

I think it is.

Y'know, the more I look at the images the more I'm hating the whole 'netting' thing. I see the direct connection to sailing and boats...but in the end it looks way too overdone and annoying. The shadows that it will create will also look pretty annoying too. Not to mention that they beautiful views of the skyline will be obstructed.

I really hope they rethink it a bit and try to incoporate that feature in a much less obstructive way.

It's supposed to be entirely transparent so as to protect from rain, but still look like it's uncovered. The wires would be about the only obstructive part, and I don't really know how obstructive they'd actually be. The skyline view wouldn't really change.

Well maybe its the artist's rendering, but the netting looks very much like it would obstruct the views of the skyline. Again, even if it is more invisible, I think its overdone. A good idea, that doesn't work very well the way they executed it in the images.

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Hate the netting, for the same reason that I hate Miller Park's roof - it's never really gone, even when retracted. It dominates the park.

I don't see how that system of cables and lines could help but be obtrustive, even when the tarp is rolled back. It'd be like watching a game under power cables.

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Where are the lights? I don't see them in the picture.

Good catch.

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Apparently the park is radioactive, providing its own internal glow. :P

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Exactly how is the "roof" supposed to close or open? In the renderings, it's always closed. On ballparksofbaseball.com, it says it would close by way of the "Hoist Tower". But where does it go when it is opened? It meets at one point on the tower, and unless somebody manually unhooks it from there, it could only be up, as shown, or down on the field. I hope everybody understands what I'm saying.

I'm sure there is a way that it opens and closes correctly. I'd just like to know the process of the "roof" opening and closing, because right now, I'm confused about it.

I am not sure if I understand you correctly, but I believe that there is a permenant wire(s) between the "hoist tower" and the main stadium behind home plate. I think that the roof material is drawn down the wire to the roof of the main structure. The material is held in the main roof in my understanding.

The lights are probably under the "roof" overing the main stands, somewhat like Heinz field...

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Isnt Tropicana Field relatively new? And they talk about renovating it....for what? Who is going to use it if the Rays move into a new ballpark?

Re-read the origional article. They aren't talking about renovating the Trop, rather tearing it down, selling the land and using the money generated from the sale (where that land (the land the Trop currnetly sits on) is turned into retail space).

The renovation you're refering to on the Trop are renovations that have already been done just to get the Trop even close to modern standards for a MLB ballpark... As others have noted, for a stadium that's barely 20 years old, it was outdated the moment it opened...

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I think it looks amazing. I would love to see that "netting" used, a really interesting design element. With the Rays picking up a large part of the cost hopefully this can get done.

My wife-to-be is starting to look for her residency options, Tampa is on the short list, and if this park gets the green light I might have to bump it up a few notches.

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Man, that tower really reminds me of the old Stade Olympique in Montreal. Just another thing to add to the list of Rays-Expos similarities.

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yup, there go the Olympic Stadium in Montreal comaprisons.....:P

nonetheless, one thing that intrigues me about this sort of design, is how will it stand up to a potential hurricane?

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yup, there go the Olympic Stadium in Montreal comaprisons.....:P

nonetheless, one thing that intrigues me about this sort of design, is how will it stand up to a potential hurricane?

The roof would then be in Mississippi?

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That stadium design with that lifting roof, gives me the sense of some one lifting a toilet seat.

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It rather looks like the lovechild of Kaufman and Olympic Stadiums, which is actually kind of fitting since the team is like the product of a one-night stand between the Royals and Expos.

While the stadium as whole shows promise, it's like they mainly wanted to just show off their breakthrough roofing idea, and just whipped up something for the rest of a stadium to put the netting on. I'm a big fan of retro ballparks, but I also love where they're going with this, they just need to work on the main part of the park a little. There's not much in the outfield area, other than some seats, and a, by todays standards, relatively small videoboard behind the left field seats. But it's like their main focus is to be on the Hoist tower.

It's a good start, but they need to give it a little more. Kind of like the way they should've done with their logo and uniforms.

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