twi Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 I just received a PM from Gary asking me to do it. Unfortunately it is too short of notice, otherwise I would. I'm about to go to bed and have a big test tomorrow then work all weekend. If anyone else would like to tabulate the votes for this week, post here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbreadmann Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Sure I'll do it quickly if possible, how long does it take? I plan on going to bed quite soon as well. But I can do it if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted September 26, 2008 Author Share Posted September 26, 2008 nvm guys, found enough time to get it done. Just have so much on my plate right now. You'll have it later on tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twi Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Cool. For future reference Gary, I have no problem doing it if given enough time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmike Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Cool. For future reference Gary, I have no problem doing it if given enough time. Yeah same here                            Check out my new NFL 2016 Series!  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted September 27, 2008 Author Share Posted September 27, 2008 New Number 1, mind you the new number 1 didn't even get one 1st place vote. Arizona State, West Virginia and Nebraska dropped out while TCU, Ball State, and Clemson are new this week 1. Georgia 2552. USC(10) 2503. Missouri 2334. Oklahoma 2325. Florida 2166. Louisiana State 2057. Alabama(1) 1908. Wisconsin 1859. Texas Tech 17710. Texas 17311. Brigham Young 15912. South Florida 15013. Penn State 13814. Wake Forest 13115. Utah 10916. Ohio State 10617. Auburn 9218. Kansas 9119. Vanderbilt 6820. Boise State 6221. Clemson 4622. Illinois 4423. Texas Christian University 2824. Eastern Carolina 2625. Ball State 25Other Receiving Votes: Connecticut 21, Colorado 18, Nebraska 17, Georgia Tech 17, Arizona State 15, Fresno State 14, Oregon 14, Northwestern 14, Minnesota 10, Tulsa 9, California 7, Kentucky 5, Oklahoma State 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted September 27, 2008 Author Share Posted September 27, 2008 Is Michigan State going to be shown any love this week?Joel, they beat THE Slohio State Buckeyes this year, and i'll vote them number 1 every week for the rest of the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted September 28, 2008 Author Share Posted September 28, 2008 New Number 1, mind you the new number 1 didn't even get one 1st place vote. Arizona State, West Virginia and Nebraska dropped out while TCU, Ball State, and Clemson are new this week 1. Georgia 2552. USC(10) 2503. Missouri 2334. Oklahoma 2325. Florida 2166. Louisiana State 2057. Alabama(1) 1908. Wisconsin 1859. Texas Tech 17710. Texas 17311. Brigham Young 15912. South Florida 15013. Penn State 13814. Wake Forest 13115. Utah 10916. Ohio State 10617. Auburn 9218. Kansas 9119. Vanderbilt 6820. Boise State 6221. Clemson 4622. Illinois 4423. Texas Christian University 2824. Eastern Carolina 2625. Ball State 25Other Receiving Votes: Connecticut 21, Colorado 18, Nebraska 17, Georgia Tech 17, Arizona State 15, Fresno State 14, Oregon 14, Northwestern 14, Minnesota 10, Tulsa 9, California 7, Kentucky 5, Oklahoma State 2Wow 9 of our 25 has lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbreadmann Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 New Number 1, mind you the new number 1 didn't even get one 1st place vote. Arizona State, West Virginia and Nebraska dropped out while TCU, Ball State, and Clemson are new this week 1. Georgia 2552. USC(10) 2503. Missouri 2334. Oklahoma 2325. Florida 2166. Louisiana State 2057. Alabama(1) 1908. Wisconsin 1859. Texas Tech 17710. Texas 17311. Brigham Young 15912. South Florida 15013. Penn State 13814. Wake Forest 13115. Utah 10916. Ohio State 10617. Auburn 9218. Kansas 9119. Vanderbilt 6820. Boise State 6221. Clemson 4622. Illinois 4423. Texas Christian University 2824. Eastern Carolina 2625. Ball State 25Other Receiving Votes: Connecticut 21, Colorado 18, Nebraska 17, Georgia Tech 17, Arizona State 15, Fresno State 14, Oregon 14, Northwestern 14, Minnesota 10, Tulsa 9, California 7, Kentucky 5, Oklahoma State 2Wow 8 of our 25 has lost.You forgot Clemson, and also 2 of our top three honorary mentions lost too. Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmike Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 New Number 1, mind you the new number 1 didn't even get one 1st place vote. Arizona State, West Virginia and Nebraska dropped out while TCU, Ball State, and Clemson are new this week 1. Georgia 2552. USC(10) 2503. Missouri 2334. Oklahoma 2325. Florida 2166. Louisiana State 2057. Alabama(1) 1908. Wisconsin 1859. Texas Tech 17710. Texas 17311. Brigham Young 15912. South Florida 15013. Penn State 13814. Wake Forest 13115. Utah 10916. Ohio State 10617. Auburn 9218. Kansas 9119. Vanderbilt 6820. Boise State 6221. Clemson 4622. Illinois 4423. Texas Christian University 2824. Eastern Carolina 2625. Ball State 25Other Receiving Votes: Connecticut 21, Colorado 18, Nebraska 17, Georgia Tech 17, Arizona State 15, Fresno State 14, Oregon 14, Northwestern 14, Minnesota 10, Tulsa 9, California 7, Kentucky 5, Oklahoma State 2Wow 8 of our 25 has lost.You forgot Clemson, and also 2 of our top three honorary mentions lost too. Wow!Ah man Georgia wont be one this week but I know who will in mine, yeah Bama is really overated *cough* ah georgia is overated *cough*, just kidding but I was suprised by how bad we beat them in overall play                            Check out my new NFL 2016 Series!  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epiphanic Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Just sent in my rankings. New week and the #1 stayed the same! Teams are solidifying themselves. "In the arena of logic, I fight unarmed."I tweet & tumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmike Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Just sent in my rankings. New week and the #1 stayed the same! Teams are solidifying themselves.Did you vote Bama? Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Check out my new NFL 2016 Series! Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twi Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Quite the shakeup this week...I've got Oklahoma, Missouri, Alabama, Texas, and LSU as my top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epiphanic Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Did you vote Bama?I did, and they are separating themselves from everyone else. Their "lead" over the #2 team will probably increase provided a win over Kentucky next week. "In the arena of logic, I fight unarmed."I tweet & tumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEW.ERA Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Are we suppost to include points in our polls  JETS|PACK|JAYS|NUFC|BAMA|BOMBERS|RAPS|ORANJE|  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbreadmann Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Are we suppost to include points in our pollsNo, when Gary calculates the rankings for each ballot a team gets points based off where they are ranked. So your #1 team will get 25 points, and your 325 team will get 1 point. It's like that for every ballot, and the points are added up to get the final rankings.Epi, how big a lead does Bama have over Oklahoma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twi Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Did you vote Bama?I did, and they are separating themselves from everyone else. Their "lead" over the #2 team will probably increase provided a win over Kentucky next week.Do you mind sharing your formula? I'm curious. (And wouldn't mind tweaking for my own use with international soccer matches. I haven't been able to come up with something decent yet.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epiphanic Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Do you mind sharing your formula? I'm curious.Not at all. It's quite simple. Teams are sorted by their rating which is the sum of each game rating. For each game, teams get 1 (-1) point for a win (loss) and a "bonus factor" to account for opponent strength. Here are the formulas:Rating = Sum(Game Rating)Game Rating = +/-1 + (Opp. Pwr. - .5)Power = ((Pct.*2)+Opp. Pct.)/3FCS level schools are automatically given a .000 for their "Power" and "Pct." to punish teams that whoop up on smaller schools.To give some examples, an team with a 1.000 winning percentage against opponents that have a combined .1 winning percentage would have a Power of .700 [((1.000*2)+.100)/3=.700] Does that make sense?(And wouldn't mind tweaking for my own use with international soccer matches. I haven't been able to come up with something decent yet.)Go ahead. On a related note, I have modified this formula to deal with soccer matches. (I did it for an online league I participated in). Essentially it's the same deal except I muliplied the game result (the +/-1 here) with the "bonus factor" (the "Opp. Pwr. - .5" part). Furthermore, I changed the the game result part to 3 points for a win, 1 for a draw, and 0 for a loss. Effectively the formula became:Game Rating=(Result)*(Opp. Pwr. - 0.5)Epi, how big a lead does Bama have over Oklahoma?After 5 weeks, #1 Alabama (5.332) holds a 1.725 point lead over #10 Oklahoma (3.607). One point is due to Alabama simply having one more win than Oklahoma (5-0 v. 4-0). Alabama has also played tough competition (teams with winning records) which accounts for their .332 "bonus." Oklahoma on the other hand has played less than stellar competition which is why their rating is less than 4. They've been "punished" for playing cupcakes.A quick note, I tabulate these in a spreadsheet and the "Opp. Pct." portion takes into account all opponents on the schedule, even ones not played yet. Ideally, I'd exclude games not played yet, but I haven't found a way to simply do that. I don't find it that pressing of an issue and as the season wears on that issue is minimized because teams play more of their schedule.Apologies to Gary if divulging my methods was inappropriate. "In the arena of logic, I fight unarmed."I tweet & tumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiasco! Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Is Michigan State going to be shown any love this week? LinkedIn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted September 29, 2008 Author Share Posted September 29, 2008 Is Michigan State going to be shown any love this week?From the polls I see, they should be at least 18th to 23rdand epi, I have no problem with you divulging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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