twi Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Thanks for listing that out. Any basis for the .5, .2, etc? That's what I'm having the hardest time with on making my own formula, what relative strength each 'factor' should have. Also, with your formula it seems that teams who get to a conference championship or go to Hawaii and potentially get an extra game could benefit from winning those games by getting an added 1+ points. Maybe it all works out in the end, you are for sure more familiar than I how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epiphanic Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 The .5 is just keep things around 1 for wins and losses. A win over a .500 team would yield a game rating of 1. (1 for the win and 0 "bonus." [.500 - .5 = 0]) I could change the math and get the same results, but it makes more intuitive sense to me this way so I deal with it that way. As a note, a team can get .5 to 1.5 for a single game rating (I realize it's impossible to actually get 1.5, but in theory it's possible). I'm not sure where you get the .2 from? Are you talking about the 2 in the Power formula? It's just a weighted average. A team's win-loss record should be a better indicator with respect to how good that team is compared to the win-loss records of its opponents. The decision to give it twice the weight is arbitrary.I have thought about teams that potentially play conference championship games, the winners get a benefit, but the losers are punished as well. It may not be fair that some teams may get more opportunities than others, but those teams do take advantage of those opportunities and I think that should count for something. Ultimately, every team plays 12 or 13 games in the regular season (plus one if they go bowling) so I don't worry too much about it. "In the arena of logic, I fight unarmed."I tweet & tumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmike Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 I know I usally say this every week but I am anxious to see it, When is the new poll coming out???? Check out my new NFL 2016 Series! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted October 1, 2008 Author Share Posted October 1, 2008 1. Oklahoma(6) 1901. Alabama(2) 1903. Missouri 1744. Texas 1685. Louisiana State 1656. Penn State 1607. Texas Tech 1388 . South Florida 1239 . Brigham Young 11910 Georgia 11611. Utah 10712 Southern California 10613. Florida 9114. Ohio State 7715. Vanderbilt 7316. Kansas 6917. Auburn 6518. Boise State 5619. Wisconsin 5520.Connecticut 4321.Northwestern 3422.Oklahoma State 3323.Virginia Tech 2724. Michigan State 2624. Kentucky 26Other Receiving Votes: Ball State 25, Oregon 24, Fresno State 22, Maryland 13, Georgia Tech 13, Wake Forest 10, Tulsa 8, California 8, Duke 6, North Carolina 5, Texas Christian 5, Florida State 4, Mississippi 3, Navy 1, Rice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted October 3, 2008 Author Share Posted October 3, 2008 1. Oklahoma(6) 1901. Alabama(2) 1903. Missouri 1744. Texas 1685. Louisiana State 1656. Penn State 1607. Texas Tech 1388 . South Florida 1239 . Brigham Young 11910 Georgia 11611. Utah 10712 Southern California 10613. Florida 9114. Ohio State 7715. Vanderbilt 7316. Kansas 6917. Auburn 6518. Boise State 5619. Wisconsin 5520.Connecticut 4321.Northwestern 3422.Oklahoma State 3323.Virginia Tech 2724. Michigan State 2624. Kentucky 26Other Receiving Votes: Ball State 25, Oregon 24, Fresno State 22, Maryland 13, Georgia Tech 13, Wake Forest 10, Tulsa 8, California 8, Duke 6, North Carolina 5, Texas Christian 5, Florida State 4, Mississippi 3, Navy 1, Rice 1Looks like we may get someone new into the top 10. Will be updated as the the weekend goes along Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted October 5, 2008 Author Share Posted October 5, 2008 looks like 5 out of 25 lost this weekend. Looks like we're getting new teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 Anyone interested in doing the polls the next couple weeks, PM me and let me know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twi Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I can do it Gary. The only hitch being that if I do, this week's poll will not be out until Friday afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share Posted October 9, 2008 I can do it Gary. The only hitch being that if I do, this week's poll will not be out until Friday afternoon.that's fine, although I know epiphanic is doing the polls, I just have to get confirmation from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epiphanic Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Sorry for the delay. I assume this is confirmation enough? 1. Oklahoma (9), 2672. Alabama (1), 2563. Missouri (1), 2514. Texas, 2365. Penn State, 2216. LSU, 2197. BYU, 1928. Texas Tech, 1879. USC, 16610. Utah, 16511. Vanderbilt, 15212. Georgia, 15113. Ohio State, 14814. Florida, 13615. Oklahoma State, 11516. Boise State, 10617. Kansas, 10018. Virginia Tech, 8519. South Florida, 6920. Michigan State, 6821. Northwestern, 4922. Ball State, 4123. North Carolina, 3124. Wake Forest, 2725. Tulsa, 27Others receiving votes: Connecticut 19, Pittsburgh 15, Auburn 14, California 9, Wisconsin 7, TCU 7, Minnesota 5, Cincinnati 4, Georgia Tech 4, Florida State 3, Illinois 2, Kentucky 2, Notre Dame 2, Fresno State 1, Western Michigan 1 "In the arena of logic, I fight unarmed."I tweet & tumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JQK Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Bout time we see Notre Dame SOMEWHERE in these polls. I'm happy just to see them in the "Others Receiving Votes"... Stay Tuned Sports Podcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted October 11, 2008 Author Share Posted October 11, 2008 Sorry for the delay. I assume this is confirmation enough? 1. Oklahoma (9), 2672. Alabama (1), 2563. Missouri (1), 2514. Texas, 2365. Penn State, 2216. LSU, 2197. BYU, 1928. Texas Tech, 1879. USC, 16610. Utah, 16511. Vanderbilt, 15212. Georgia, 15113. Ohio State, 14814. Florida, 13615. Oklahoma State, 11516. Boise State, 10617. Kansas, 10018. Virginia Tech, 8519. South Florida, 6920. Michigan State, 6821. Northwestern, 4922. Ball State, 4123. North Carolina, 3124. Wake Forest, 2725. Tulsa, 27Others receiving votes: Connecticut 19, Pittsburgh 15, Auburn 14, California 9, Wisconsin 7, TCU 7, Minnesota 5, Cincinnati 4, Georgia Tech 4, Florida State 3, Illinois 2, Kentucky 2, Notre Dame 2, Fresno State 1, Western Michigan 12 of our top 25 members are out and 1 is the number 1 team in the country. 2 others could be out as well. I'll keep you updated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted October 11, 2008 Author Share Posted October 11, 2008 UpdatedBold=WinItalics= ByeStrike Through=Loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJMorris3 Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Need more electors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted October 11, 2008 Author Share Posted October 11, 2008 Need more electors?Will I thought you never ask just email your poll to fanstop25@yahoo.complease be sure you get your poll in by Tuesday at noon Pacific time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twi Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Who's tabulating the votes this week? I can have it done on Tuesday if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmike Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Already sent my votes in, new #1 woohoo I wonder who can guess who Check out my new NFL 2016 Series! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epiphanic Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Sent and I have a new #1 too. It's probably not who you think though. "In the arena of logic, I fight unarmed."I tweet & tumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twi Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Already sent my votes in, new #1 woohoo I wonder who can guess whoTexas or Penn State, if you're doing it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 I finally got around to sending my 25 in. Don't be surprised if I'm the only one that votes a certain team #1. Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% about how you react to it.App State Mountaineers / Alabama Crimson Tide / Atlanta Braves / New York Jets / Atlanta Hawks "If you believe in yourself and have dedication and pride - and never quit, you'll be a winner. The price of victory is high but so are the rewards." [Bear Bryant]Redmond Rampage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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