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hey i know this may just be a hot style , but it is still an interesting logo for the twins, if it wall cleaned up it would be awseome

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I think that would be a great cap if they got rid of the Minnesota M, colored the T red and get rid of the red brim and you have a nice hat

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Yeah, but the hat said A's, so the home jerseys still identified the team by city and nickname, just on different body parts. This is just another silly case of the Los Angeles Angels trying to disavow any sort of geographic location, as if they unlike all other teams transcend the mere notion of representing a place. New York can have its Yankees, and San Francisco its Giants, but this is ANGELS BASEBALL. The Angels are the American League's Los Angeles team, the Angels have always been the American League's Los Angeles team, and they play in a suburb of Los Angeles. Settle the "of Anaheim" nonsense, knock off the "ANGELS BASEBALL" posturing, and just be once and for all the Los Angeles Angels. Moreno changed the name for a good reason, viz. that it's provincial and small-time to represent a suburb on a national scale, and more money can be made by marketing the team to all of Greater Los Angeles, to which they're entitled. It's all just so silly.

I'm not tryin to start anything, but Anaheim isn't a suburb of Los Angeles, thats a big reason there was such an outcry over the name change, people from the Orange County/Anaheim area like to be distinguished from the Los Angeles area because they are two different places.

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Yeah, but the hat said A's, so the home jerseys still identified the team by city and nickname, just on different body parts. This is just another silly case of the Los Angeles Angels trying to disavow any sort of geographic location, as if they unlike all other teams transcend the mere notion of representing a place. New York can have its Yankees, and San Francisco its Giants, but this is ANGELS BASEBALL. The Angels are the American League's Los Angeles team, the Angels have always been the American League's Los Angeles team, and they play in a suburb of Los Angeles. Settle the "of Anaheim" nonsense, knock off the "ANGELS BASEBALL" posturing, and just be once and for all the Los Angeles Angels. Moreno changed the name for a good reason, viz. that it's provincial and small-time to represent a suburb on a national scale, and more money can be made by marketing the team to all of Greater Los Angeles, to which they're entitled. It's all just so silly.

I'm not tryin to start anything, but Anaheim isn't a suburb of Los Angeles, thats a big reason there was such an outcry over the name change, people from the Orange County/Anaheim area like to be distinguished from the Los Angeles area because they are two different places.

Anaheim is a component in the Los Angeles Metropolitan Statistical Area, AKA Greater Los Angeles. Whether it's a suburb by the traditional definition or not, according to the Census beaureau, it is part of an overall greater area, and not the center of it's own.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Los_Angeles_Area

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hey i know this may just be a hot style , but it is still an interesting logo for the twins, if it wall cleaned up it would be awseome

hwlyr4.jpg

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I think that would be a great cap if they got rid of the Minnesota M, colored the T red and get rid of the red brim and you have a nice hat

I agree, it looks too cluttered to me. The T in itself would be pretty nice, but I'm not sure I like it any more than the M, and certainly not better than the TC logo in my opinion...

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hey i know this may just be a hot style , but it is still an interesting logo for the twins, if it wall cleaned up it would be awseome

hwlyr4.jpg

w615.png

I think that would be a great cap if they got rid of the Minnesota M, colored the T red and get rid of the red brim and you have a nice hat

I agree, it looks to cluttered to me. The T in itself would be pretty nice, but I'm not sure I like it any more than the M, and certainly not better than the TC logo in my opinion...

I agree, it's way too busy for me, but that would be a sweet fashion cap

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Yeah, but the hat said A's, so the home jerseys still identified the team by city and nickname, just on different body parts. This is just another silly case of the Los Angeles Angels trying to disavow any sort of geographic location, as if they unlike all other teams transcend the mere notion of representing a place. New York can have its Yankees, and San Francisco its Giants, but this is ANGELS BASEBALL. The Angels are the American League's Los Angeles team, the Angels have always been the American League's Los Angeles team, and they play in a suburb of Los Angeles. Settle the "of Anaheim" nonsense, knock off the "ANGELS BASEBALL" posturing, and just be once and for all the Los Angeles Angels. Moreno changed the name for a good reason, viz. that it's provincial and small-time to represent a suburb on a national scale, and more money can be made by marketing the team to all of Greater Los Angeles, to which they're entitled. It's all just so silly.

I'm not tryin to start anything, but Anaheim isn't a suburb of Los Angeles, thats a big reason there was such an outcry over the name change, people from the Orange County/Anaheim area like to be distinguished from the Los Angeles area because they are two different places.

Anaheim is a component in the Los Angeles Metropolitan Statistical Area, AKA Greater Los Angeles. Whether it's a suburb by the traditional definition or not, according to the Census beaureau, it is part of an overall greater area, and not the center of it's own.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Los_Angeles_Area

Even if it may be linked to the Los Angeles area due to the enormous size of the city, it's not even in the same county. Anaheim is NOT a "suburb" of Los Angeles, in any sense really. I can even see how it would be considered in the Los Angeles Market, but considering Anaheim a suburb of LA is like considering San Jose a suburb of San francisco. It's just not correct.

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Yeah, but the hat said A's, so the home jerseys still identified the team by city and nickname, just on different body parts. This is just another silly case of the Los Angeles Angels trying to disavow any sort of geographic location, as if they unlike all other teams transcend the mere notion of representing a place. New York can have its Yankees, and San Francisco its Giants, but this is ANGELS BASEBALL. The Angels are the American League's Los Angeles team, the Angels have always been the American League's Los Angeles team, and they play in a suburb of Los Angeles. Settle the "of Anaheim" nonsense, knock off the "ANGELS BASEBALL" posturing, and just be once and for all the Los Angeles Angels. Moreno changed the name for a good reason, viz. that it's provincial and small-time to represent a suburb on a national scale, and more money can be made by marketing the team to all of Greater Los Angeles, to which they're entitled. It's all just so silly.

I'm not tryin to start anything, but Anaheim isn't a suburb of Los Angeles, thats a big reason there was such an outcry over the name change, people from the Orange County/Anaheim area like to be distinguished from the Los Angeles area because they are two different places.

Anaheim is a component in the Los Angeles Metropolitan Statistical Area, AKA Greater Los Angeles. Whether it's a suburb by the traditional definition or not, according to the Census beaureau, it is part of an overall greater area, and not the center of it's own.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Los_Angeles_Area

Even if it may be linked to the Los Angeles area due to the enormous size of the city, it's not even in the same county. Anaheim is NOT a "suburb" of Los Angeles, in any sense really. I can see how it would be considered in the Los Angeles Market, but considering Anaheim a suburb of LA is like considering San Jose a suburb of San francisco. It's just not correct.

No one seemed to have an issue when the Los Angeles Rams played in Anaheim.

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Precisely.

Anaheim is a suburb of Los Angeles in every single way, up to an including the very definition of the word. It's a smaller community immediately outlying a larger one, within the sphere of influence of the larger one.

Heck, where do Orange County fans see their Angels games on television? KCOP, out of - wait for it - Los Angeles.

It's a suburb. Some there might not like to acknowledge it, but their personal preferences do not alter reality.

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Precisely.

Anaheim is a suburb of Los Angeles in every single way, up to an including the very definition of the word. It's a smaller community immediately outlying a larger one, within the sphere of influence of the larger one.

Heck, where do Orange County fans see their Angels games on television? KCOP, out of - wait for it - Los Angeles.

It's a suburb. Some there might not like to acknowledge it, but their personal preferences do not alter reality.

How can you be a suburb of a city in which you are in two different counties?

I understand being part of the MSA or CSA or whatever metro they are part of that fine. But to say Anaheim in part of LA is stupid. Having lived in Costa Mesa, Orange County is much different than LA County and they are two different places. That would be like saying NJ is just part of NY because the cities are so big that they basically merge into one.

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Precisely.

Anaheim is a suburb of Los Angeles in every single way, up to an including the very definition of the word. It's a smaller community immediately outlying a larger one, within the sphere of influence of the larger one.

Heck, where do Orange County fans see their Angels games on television? KCOP, out of - wait for it - Los Angeles.

It's a suburb. Some there might not like to acknowledge it, but their personal preferences do not alter reality.

How can you be a suburb of a city in which you are in two different counties?

I understand being part of the MSA or CSA or whatever metro they are part of that fine. But to say Anaheim in part of LA is stupid. Having lived in Costa Mesa, Orange County is much different than LA County and they are two different places. That would be like saying NJ is just part of NY because the cities are so big that they basically merge into one.

Philadelphia has suburbs in New Jersey and Delaware. County / State lines are irrelevant. It's the socioeconomic sphere of influence that is the key.

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How can you be a suburb of a city in which you are in two different counties?

Easily. Look at a map: major metropolitan areas comprise multiple counties. Brookfield is a suburb of Milwaukee, in Waukesha County. Cherry Hill is a suburb of Philadelphia, located in a different state. All this OC/LA "in THAT place they walk like this,, but HERE we walk like this" stuff is irrelevant to those of us outside Greater Los Angeles, and since in my experience most of it emanates from predominantly white Orange County, it can be construed as passively racist to keep insinuating "we're not them, we swear."

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How can you be a suburb of a city in which you are in two different counties?

Easily. Look at a map: major metropolitan areas comprise multiple counties. Brookfield is a suburb of Milwaukee, in Waukesha County. Cherry Hill is a suburb of Philadelphia, located in a different state. All this OC/LA "in THAT place they walk like this,, but HERE we walk like this" stuff is irrelevant to those of us outside Greater Los Angeles, and since in my experience most of it emanates from predominantly white Orange County, it can be construed as passively racist to keep insinuating "we're not them, we swear."

:huh: Am I misreading this, or are you seriously trying to turn city boundaries into a race issue?

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:huh: Am I misreading this, or are you seriously trying to turn city boundaries into a race issue?

Look into the term "gerrymandering", and you'll find it to be far less of a stretch than you think.

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No. I'm just noting that I can't think of any subset of a metropolitan area that disavows its status as such quite like Orange County. Why is this? Northwest Indiana is a unique little corner of Greater Chicago, insofar as it's in another state, but I don't think people who live there say "whoawhoawhoaWHOA. We are NOT Chicagoland. We are NORTHWEST INDIANA. It's DIFFERENT, you see." No, not really. Nowhere else are people as chirpy about not being part of a city's metropolitan area, and it occurred to me that the demographics of southern California are such that one could wonder if that's part of the puzzle. I mean, look:

Orange County is much different than LA County and they are two different places.

Well yeah. By definition, any two places are two different places, unless southern California defies the laws of physics. I think there are lines to read between here. Even reading between said lines, what's the point? City centers are different than their suburbs, their rich suburbs are different than their poor suburbs, but they're all in it together, so to speak. It's an artificial delineation to make.

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