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This is an update from my first post: "need help with a KC alt logo." You should be able to find it a little further down the concepts board. As you can see, these new concepts are much better than my original drawing. I skecthed this up a few hours ago and have been playing around with the colors. The new logo is simpler and I think better represents the name "Royals." C+C appreciated! Thanks!

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Well, they're all pretty much the same. Poorly executed, poorly rendered. Without the crown it's just a lion, doesn't say Royals at all. The crown and the lion are two totally different styles, so they clash horribly.

Calm down with the bumping. People will post if they want to. The fact that nobody has should probably tell you something...

Back to the drawing board.

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Well, they're all pretty much the same. Poorly executed, poorly rendered. Without the crown it's just a lion, doesn't say Royals at all. The crown and the lion are two totally different styles, so they clash horribly.

Calm down with the bumping. People will post if they want to. The fact that nobody has should probably tell you something...

Back to the drawing board.

ok, thanks. im going to clean it up. the outlines need to be worked on, i know. what would you say needs to be worked on exactly? i mean, which should be changed- the crown or the lion? personally i think the lion is alright but i see your point about how they are different styles...

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I'd change both. The Crown was clearly designed separately from the lion, and not designed to flow with the shape of the lion. I think you need to work on both. The lion is too cartoony, too unrealistic. The crown is too boxy and flat, it doesn't settle on the head of the lion.

Just do a Google search for lion logo and take a look at some of the examples that show up. Even if the logos are cartoonish, there is an element of realism that yours is lacking. On the flip side the logo can be very simplistic and stylized, yet still give the image of a lion.

To me yours doesn't look much like a lion, although knowing what it is helps.

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I'd change both. The Crown was clearly designed separately from the lion, and not designed to flow with the shape of the lion. I think you need to work on both. The lion is too cartoony, too unrealistic. The crown is too boxy and flat, it doesn't settle on the head of the lion.

Just do a Google search for lion logo and take a look at some of the examples that show up. Even if the logos are cartoonish, there is an element of realism that yours is lacking. On the flip side the logo can be very simplistic and stylized, yet still give the image of a lion.

To me yours doesn't look much like a lion, although knowing what it is helps.

ok thanks, that helps me a lot more than your first post. the crown was taken from my redesign of the current royals logo. since i thought there would be balance if the primary and the alt had a common element, i decided to place the crown on top of the lions head, and youre right, the lion flows and is curvy while the crown is flat and boxy. they do not match well. the lion, when w/o a crown, looks more like either a seal or a dog. my sketch of these logos was based on the U. of North Alabama's logo. As I write this I'm thinking that while just slightly revising the lion, I could make this work by making the crown 3D so that it "curves" around its head as if he is actually wearing it. That might work, what do you think? Oh, and if I make the crown curve, would that mean that a change of my primary logo (think of my crown on the blue 'KC' shield) is necessary? I don't think 2 different crowns would work...

Thanks, I'm a noob at this stuff and could use help from veteran concept designers. :D

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I think you need to go back to the drawing board. It just doesn't look mean enough right now maybe add more edges and less curvy lines. I picked number 2 because i think the colours are the best and I don't think the crown works. Keep at it!

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I think you need to go back to the drawing board. It just doesn't look mean enough right now maybe add more edges and less curvy lines. I picked number 2 because i think the colours are the best and I don't think the crown works. Keep at it!

alright, thanks for your comments, i appreciate the honesty. Despite what you say about the crown, I think it is necessary for it to be included, because then it makes the logo uniquely Royals. But both the lion and the crown will be revised. The crown is boxy and the lion is curvy, and they don't work. I am not sure whether to go for an overall curvy look or what you said, by making both things edgier and boxier. Thanks though, it is much appreciated!

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I think you need to go back to the drawing board. It just doesn't look mean enough right now maybe add more edges and less curvy lines. I picked number 2 because i think the colours are the best and I don't think the crown works. Keep at it!

alright, thanks for your comments, i appreciate the honesty. Despite what you say about the crown, I think it is necessary for it to be included, because then it makes the logo uniquely Royals. But both the lion and the crown will be revised. The crown is boxy and the lion is curvy, and they don't work. I am not sure whether to go for an overall curvy look or what you said, by making both things edgier and boxier. Thanks though, it is much appreciated!

I have no problem with a crown as long as it's revised well, although I would lose the baseball's in the crown it makes it look way to busy. Right now the crown looks busy and the lion looks plain.

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I think you need to go back to the drawing board. It just doesn't look mean enough right now maybe add more edges and less curvy lines. I picked number 2 because i think the colours are the best and I don't think the crown works. Keep at it!

alright, thanks for your comments, i appreciate the honesty. Despite what you say about the crown, I think it is necessary for it to be included, because then it makes the logo uniquely Royals. But both the lion and the crown will be revised. The crown is boxy and the lion is curvy, and they don't work. I am not sure whether to go for an overall curvy look or what you said, by making both things edgier and boxier. Thanks though, it is much appreciated!

I have no problem with a crown as long as it's revised well, although I would lose the baseball's in the crown it makes it look way to busy. Right now the crown looks busy and the lion looks plain.

Hmm.. ok, good points. So dump the baseballs and return to the current Royals crown?

Thanks, this helps a lot!

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I would dump the baseballs on the crown, because one thing is very clear to me: there was no effort to truly integrate them into the crown's overall appearance, thus it looks sloppy and rushed. Either integrate the baseballs so that they're less blatant, as if they're crown jewels that just so happen to have stitches, or just use the normal crown.

Now onto the lion. It has potential, and I figure if you could work the crown in such a way that the lion's mane would partially obscure it in the back, it'd look more like he was wearing it, instead of it being an odd looking attempt at a halo. As it stands now, however, there is room for improvement as others have said. You may wanna consider switching to Inkscape or some other vector program though, you'll be glad you did.

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I would dump the baseballs on the crown, because one thing is very clear to me: there was no effort to truly integrate them into the crown's overall appearance, thus it looks sloppy and rushed. Either integrate the baseballs so that they're less blatant, as if they're crown jewels that just so happen to have stitches, or just use the normal crown.

Now onto the lion. It has potential, and I figure if you could work the crown in such a way that the lion's mane would partially obscure it in the back, it'd look more like he was wearing it, instead of it being an odd looking attempt at a halo. As it stands now, however, there is room for improvement as others have said. You may wanna consider switching to Inkscape or some other vector program though, you'll be glad you did.

Alright, I think I may have it now. The baseballs will either be dumped or made smaller, so that they are not the main focus of the logo. The crown will become rounded, in a way to make it appear that the lion is wearing the crown while at the same time staying with the identity of the boxy crown atop KC's current logo. The lion is pretty good, but could use a few basic shapes to add detail and make it look more like a lion (kinda looks like a seal or a dog right now). Alright, I think this sounds good, if you want to give me any more help, PM me. Otherwise, thanks to all for giving me your comments and criticism. Wish me luck as I finish off this lion...

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Poorly executed, poorly rendered. Without the crown it's just a lion, doesn't say Royals at all.

Pretty brutal! It does need work, but keep at it, take suggestions and make changes. The Graphic Warriors around here

will tell you like it is, don't take it personnel, just keep plugging away at it. I like the idea of the lion w/ the crown.

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