chickenfish13 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 OK, so I just wanted to get some feedback for this. It's for another user's fantasy hockey team, the Mahoning Manatees. Not to much to say about it, except for the fact that some of the shading/accents look the way they do, not to be from light or anything, but to show body texture, like wrinkles, which Manatees have many of. The facial expression is supposed to be blank, as it represents a Manatee more than a ticked off face would. Manatees are most likely not gonna harm anything, so why give them a mean expression? Also, I'm aware he's quite chubby, but, once again, so are manatees. So, c and c please. dribbble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJBerthiaume Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 First thing I notice is the fins are too pointy. IIRC manatees have rounded fins. The other thing is that it looks more like the inside of a lava lamp right now. It needs some sort of shading underneath it's belly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenfish13 Posted August 25, 2009 Author Share Posted August 25, 2009 Honestly, manatees do kinda look like blobs . The main pic I referenced didn't really give any detail to it's belly. I will work on the fins, and try something on the belly though. dribbble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarperK Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 looking good. i'd pretty much agree with the above, and also add id ditch the silver "highlights" for a darker or lighter shade of that red. if silver is part of the scheme, just use it to outline that big beast. ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenfish13 Posted August 25, 2009 Author Share Posted August 25, 2009 I laughed when you said big beast haha. I'll try that out. Right now I'm trying to give him some belly definition, but honestly, looking at the pic and other pics of manatees, I'm quite stumped as to how to make it work. I'll try something though. dribbble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenfish13 Posted August 25, 2009 Author Share Posted August 25, 2009 OK, here's an quick update. Honestly, I think it pops better with the silver, but we'll see. I had difficulty with the stomach, so I gave it an extra highlight for a bit more definition, and I rounded the fins. C and C. dribbble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarperK Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 OK, here's an quick update. Honestly, I think it pops better with the silver, but we'll see. I had difficulty with the stomach, so I gave it an extra highlight for a bit more definition, and I rounded the fins. C and C.are you set in stone using that red as the body color? maybe you could experiment with colors that are more contrasting that navy and maroon? ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenfish13 Posted August 25, 2009 Author Share Posted August 25, 2009 I dont have to use it, but the teams colors are purple and red. The outline is actually a dark purple. I can try out some other schemes though. dribbble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJBerthiaume Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I'm thinking more of a shadow than definition for the belly. Like light is shining on the manatee from above, and there is a shadow cast over the belly because no light can reach there. And then use the highlights as if the light were coming from above. Right now you have highlights on the back of the manatee as well as the under-side of the tail, which would be impossible if there were really light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenfish13 Posted August 25, 2009 Author Share Posted August 25, 2009 I'm thinking more of a shadow than definition for the belly. Like light is shining on the manatee from above, and there is a shadow cast over the belly because no light can reach there. And then use the highlights as if the light were coming from above. Right now you have highlights on the back of the manatee as well as the under-side of the tail, which would be impossible if there were really light.Thanks, shadowing and highlights is the major thing I have to work on. I will try and update that with a shadow. dribbble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenfish13 Posted August 25, 2009 Author Share Posted August 25, 2009 OK, so I studied the pics more closely, and I realized that what BJB was true, except that the pics showed shadowing on the tail, not the belly area. So I gave some shadowing to the tail. I also have 4 color options, so c and c. dribbble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJBerthiaume Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 The shading looks really good. Now the problem is the colors. I would go with a color a little more realistic like a light blue, but now the top right seems to look the best. Great progression so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenfish13 Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 I'd go with something more realistic, but the user requested purple and red. But I will try something with more realistic colors. dribbble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJBerthiaume Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 I'd go with something more realistic, but the user requested purple and red. But I will try something with more realistic colors.Yeah, and that's a problem. Maybe try white with purple and red accents/outlines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenfish13 Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 OK, here's 2 more color options. dribbble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFB Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 OK, here's 2 more color options.Alright CF13, here's what you need to do.- First, your shading on the tail is all off. It's the other side that needs to be highlighted... (The upper body provides the shadow)- Second, increase the emphasis on the lower jaw. I would bring it all the way to the outer outline. It'll help hide the "blobbyness" of the manatee's current shape- Third, decide on one shadowing color. Are the shadows going to be red? Or are they going to be purple?- Fourth, and most importantly, use some consistency with the outlines. Your body haas a very small thin outline, while your fins have much much bigger outlines.And purple and red can work just fine... Toronto Raptors anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenfish13 Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 Thanks GFB. For #4, the fins and body have the same stroke weight, I'm not sure if you mean something else, or see something else, but the main white part, with the purple outline, have the same weights. It might look different. dribbble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenfish13 Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 OK, update based on GFB's advice. C and C. dribbble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFB Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Thanks GFB. For #4, the fins and body have the same stroke weight, I'm not sure if you mean something else, or see something else, but the main white part, with the purple outline, have the same weights. It might look different.I was referring to the tips of the fins...OK, update based on GFB's advice. C and C.Ok, shading looks much better... Still a few things though1) I think you misunderstood what I was referencing when I said the lower jaw. You extended what I would call his nose/cheek down. I was referring to the little 3 point star thing under that... copy the curve of the manatee's cheeks and follow it to the edge.2) Merge the top of the left fin with the body, right now it looks like he had fins stitched on or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenfish13 Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 OK, yeah, I wasnt quite sure what you meant by the widths. The tips of the fins look like that because there is shading there. Should I keep what I thought the jaw was where it is? dribbble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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