Patchez Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 I'm thinking it's time to rename the NFL Redskins for the obvious "PC" reason. (Personally I am fine with Indians, Braves, Blackhawks, but this one's got to go!)The Washington Monuments. While I incorporated THE Washington Monument within this primary (patch) and word mark, the name refers to all Washington DC area monuments.I am still working on a secondary which may include other monuments.I would not change colors, helmet or uniforms.C+C please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the admiral Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Washington (INDEPENDENT) Football Logo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasleyK Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 i really like the Monuments name. However, while I see the W and the M, i also see 2 Xs. Maybe some type of break between the 2, maybe interlocking like William & Mary, is it? I think the actual monument is forced in there. Maybe if it was more abstract or involved the team colors more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Washington (INDEPENDENT) Football LogoDude, take a PILL, and quit ragging on this guy's Pro Logo.Couple of problems here:1. The name is "monuments", which is obviously supposed to refer to a towering... well, monument. However, the image of said monument is totally enclosed from within the W and M. It'd make a lot more sense IMO to give the monument a more prominent stance, coming up above the W (or at least in front of it.) Either that, or scrap the WM idea all together.2. Not sure that this name could ever be trademarked - and the trademark issue is what could cause them to drop Redskins, so I doubt that they'd realistically go in this direction. It's cool since it's just your concept, but if you're looking for something actually realistic, this may not be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchez Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 Washington (INDEPENDENT) Football LogoDude, take a PILL, and quit ragging on this guy's Pro Logo.I don't quite understand the dig here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchez Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 Washington MonuMen? Washington Monumentz? Washington Monumints? Washington MonuMets?Good input, made some tweaks...This design is to be "sided" on the helmet, so the ball points forward. -> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the admiral Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 There's a cognitive dissonance to rooting for a team nicknamed "the Mons" when their logo has a phallic symbol in it. I just don't know what's what anymore. Left is right. Up is down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchez Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 There's a cognitive dissonance to rooting for a team nicknamed "the Mons" when their logo has a phallic symbol in it. I just don't know what's what anymore. Left is right. Up is down."cognitive dissonance" "the Mons" and "phallic" In is out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDixonDesign Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 I really like the updated version of the Primary, with the Monument in front of the "W"....it makes a world of difference in just a little tweak! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elsephen Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 Not liking the logo. Needs to be reworked- but I think you can make it work. I like the monument being above the W. That helped. I also see the XX. Maybe if there was a space between? The rounded football might be my least favorite part though. So many sharp edges, then the clip-art styled football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Washington (INDEPENDENT) Football LogoDude, take a PILL, and quit ragging on this guy's Pro Logo.I don't quite understand the dig here.Oh, it's not a dig on you or your concept at all. Just a reference to a former member who always made Washington concepts under multiple handles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygers09 Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Personally I'm getting sick of this nickname changing because of people getting offended by it; it's only a name. If one team has to change, then they all have to. I thought about this and they all have to do with government/military, my suggestions would be:Federals (from USFL)Generals ( from the Globetrotters opponent)Colonels AdmiralsSenators (maybe not because of all the attempts of passed failed MLB teams)Sentinels (from the movie The Replacements)or even how about theThunderbirdsWarriors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_cat_eyes Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Personally I'm getting sick of this nickname changing because of people getting offended by it; it's only a name. If one team has to change, then they all have to. I thought about this and they all have to do with government/military, my suggestions would be:Federals (from USFL)Generals ( from the Globetrotters opponent)Colonels AdmiralsSenators (maybe not because of all the attempts of passed failed MLB teams)Sentinels (from the movie The Replacements)or even how about theThunderbirdsWarriorsWarriors is the best one. I remember someone did a redskins rebrand with the name warriors but kept the native American theme. It was unreal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buster Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Personally I'm getting sick of this nickname changing because of people getting offended by it; it's only a name. If one team has to change, then they all have to. I thought about this and they all have to do with government/military, my suggestions would be:Federals (from USFL)Generals ( from the Globetrotters opponent)Colonels AdmiralsSenators (maybe not because of all the attempts of passed failed MLB teams)Sentinels (from the movie The Replacements)or even how about theThunderbirdsWarriorsAmen. They should and will always be the Redskins. The "Monuments" is barely better than the "Redskin Potatoes" concepts.Looks like it could be a S.B. XX logo for a game being played at RFK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bohob Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I feel that the logo has too much going on. Look at other NFL logos, they generally don't have an icon (monument), two initials (W&M), and a football. Plus, the managerie of elements takes away from the monument itself, in addition to contrasting with the geometric simplicity of said monument. I like that you tried to change the name, however. I've always disliked the name Redskins. If fans feel it's OK to root for the psychopathic act of scalping a person and taking that scalp to the government to collect a refund, then you probably won't be able to have an argument about rationally renaming the franchise with them. As for the colors, I like the burgundy, but feel it might be paired better with another color, perhaps silver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seancarter Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 i think that native americans are making big deal out of enoughing,but if redskins do decide to change their nickname i would go for 1.Washington Warriors 2.Washington Sea Dogs3.Washington Federals 4.Washington Senators5.Washington Warhogs 6.Washington Sentinals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 you guys realize that none of this arguing about nicknames actually gives the OP the c/c he was looking for, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchez Posted September 22, 2009 Author Share Posted September 22, 2009 Look at other NFL logos, they generally don't have...That's the only thing I have a problem with, I don't feel a logo design HAS to be everything another logo is or is not.As ugly as it may be, the Houston Rockets kinda broke new ground with their current. Hoping it eventually changes again though!I give them credit for a change.Generally, I look at a logo as a composite, I don't read them (XX or WM) or try to pull out one component over another.I prefer a design that is versatile when it comes to reproducing them into different media.Be it the size of a business card/letterhead or painted huge on the field, court or under the ice.And yes, how it can be converted to look good in embroidery... but not necessarily a priority.I appreciate the C+C from you all!P.S. Thanks BBTV! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchez Posted September 22, 2009 Author Share Posted September 22, 2009 i think that native americans are making big deal out of enoughing,but if redskins do decide to change their nickname i would go for 1.Washington Warriors 2.Washington Sea Dogs3.Washington Federals 4.Washington Senators5.Washington Warhogs 6.Washington SentinalsRedskins is over the top now a days. IMO. I am not speaking for Native Americans.Warriors, Braves, Indians are fine. There are probably more I can't recall now.But I do like Washington Sentinels a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bohob Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Look at other NFL logos, they generally don't have...That's the only thing I have a problem with, I don't feel a logo design HAS to be everything another logo is or is not.As ugly as it may be, the Houston Rockets kinda broke new ground with their current. Hoping it eventually changes again though!I give them credit for a change.Generally, I look at a logo as a composite, I don't read them (XX or WM) or try to pull out one component over another.I prefer a design that is versatile when it comes to reproducing them into different media.Be it the size of a business card/letterhead or painted huge on the field, court or under the ice.And yes, how it can be converted to look good in embroidery... but not necessarily a priority.I appreciate the C+C from you all!P.S. Thanks BBTV!I'm not saying you have to copy an existing logo, but with how many elements you have and how thin the outlines are, the logo seems choppy and disjointed. A little simplification and stylization would go a long way here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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