chickenfish13 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Hey Guys. Yes, I know, another topic.I realize I said I would slow down, which I have a little, but I have definitely taking more time to get logos to where I want them to be. I had been working on a skull logo for the fun of it, and when I saw that the Sarasota Reds were becoming the Bradenton Pirates, I had a purpose for my logo. All it is is a stylized skull, with a bandana, and PIRATE wordmark. The secondaries are nothing great, just some marks you might see on a hat. Hopefully you guys can give me some ideas as to what I can do to maybe give it an edge. Thanks, and C n C.Also, I haven't forgotten about my other work, I'm working on updating the Thunder, as well as the Warhawks Uni's. dribbble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidson Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 its nae bad bro, but the jaw appears to be fused shut, the eye(s?) is right at the front of the face and the ear (thats an earing right?) is at the back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchez Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 its nae bad bro, but the jaw appears to be fused shut, the eye(?) is right at the front of the face and the ear (thats an earing right?) is at the back?I know the examples below are not sports logos... but these craniums and their features are not exactly aligned with real skulls.But I agree, the earring should be moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergeimakarenkov44 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I agree that an earing makes no sense without an ear, but I think the skull is alright stylistically. Someone not involved in design would never notice what FD mentioned, so I would say the stylized skull is alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Cunningham Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I agree that an earing makes no sense without an ear, but I think the skull is alright stylistically. Someone not involved in design would never notice what FD mentioned, so I would say the stylized skull is alright.Eh, I disagree. I think the skull looks a bit odd. The jaw seems too small in proportion with the rest of the skull, and it would be nice to make a distinction between the jaw and the rest of the skull (i.e. make the joint visible as opposed to making the jaw appear to be one with the skull).I really dig both of the P marks (cap logos, right?) The sword especially is a nice touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidson Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 er.. its not the style of this thing that i was making a point about. its the anatomical abnormalities.the eyes are too far forward, the nose is very low and the jaw is attached to the top of the skull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9erssteve Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Yeah I have to echo what Fraser said, stylisation and simplification are all well and good, but first you have start with an accurate shape. As things stand right now the level of stylisation is fine but the shape is all wrong.The lower jaw is a completely distinct entity and needs to be shown as such. Your average Joe has seen enough Skull and Crossbones flags to know this he/she doesn't need to have majored in design or medicine it's a well known fact. So if nothing else is changed (although I would suggest looking at the position of the eyes and nose) I think the lower jaw needs to be separated from the upper skull.With regards the word mark, great font choice, however I can't help but feel especially in the Bradenton one there is a certain level of overkill which is making the whole thing difficult to read and spoiling what could be a very very successful wordmark. I'm not familiar with the font so I dont know if this will work but I'd look at setting the first and last letters in caps and the rest in lower case as that might help improve with legibility due to the reduction in swashes and tails etc which are crossing into one another just now, but still retain enough of the "piartey" feel to still work. I'd then baseline shift the lower case letters up so that everything hangs from the top of the cap letters and then you could decide if you want to arc the whole thing or not.You're off to a great start though and I look forward to seeing the updates when you've finished them.9erssteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spamspamspamspam Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 As a lifelong Pirate fan, I'd like to see a take on a "B" version of the classic golden "P" logo the Bucs have.PS. I realize that "golden 'P'" has a toilet joke coming to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undead Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Excellent job, ChickenFish. I like the color scheme and the fonts are very appropriate. All you have to do is implement the changes the others have said and you'll have a very strong identity package. Portfoliobobschultz6' class="bbc_url">@bobschultz6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buster Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Love it. The font is perfect for a Pirates team and the P-logo with sword is a great idea. The skull is also a nice, unique design. Great work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenfish13 Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 Thanks for all the comments, I didn't expect so many, as I haven't really been getting any, so thanks again, keep it coming, and I will have updates soon. dribbble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaha32 Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 i really like the P logo with the sword. as far as the primary i think the skull is close but not quite right as others have mentioned. I think it would also look better moved to the left slightly on the wordmark but that may just be me and is minor. the lettering i like and dont like in a way. i like the innter white part since it look perfect for pirates but then the very thick outline turns it almost bubbly. if you could manually alter the outline to be rigid like everything else i would love it DesignsByHahn.com Behance Dribbble Instragram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaha32 Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 one more thing i forgot. i like the earring actually. it doesnt bother me that he doesnt have an ear like someone mentioned. thats the fun of logos is that the elements dont always have to make sense as long as theyre there in an asthetically appealing way DesignsByHahn.com Behance Dribbble Instragram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenfish13 Posted January 2, 2010 Author Share Posted January 2, 2010 OK, I now it's been a looooooong time, but I've been trying to work on this for awhile. I tried to update the skull as best as I could. Thanks to Jaha for the help, he guided me through cleaning it up a bit, and gave me a technique to use in illustrator to make it look better, so thanks to him. 9erssteve, I actually can't do that with the text, it's not exactly the easiest font to work with, so I just left it. I'm not sure if I got it, I'll wait to hear from you guys: dribbble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJworks Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 It's getting better, but I definately think you need to rework certain areas in the face, right now it looks a little flat, ya need depth.Look specifically in the cheek bone/jaw area cause right now he looks like he has plaster white skin. Use the pic of a skull davidson posted for you, and look at the shadows and general shapes the cheek and jaw make and try and reqork that in your logo.Progress is being made though, great job. Dribbble | Twitter | Facebook | Portfolio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidson Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 skull is still one lump. it also doesnt look all that terrifying. seriously, try using the picture of the skull as refererence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenfish13 Posted January 2, 2010 Author Share Posted January 2, 2010 I've been trying to reference the shadowing, but the best its looked is this:It's bad, obviously. What way can I "mimic" the shadowing in the pic? Thanks guys. dribbble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidson Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 i think you are trying to alter the image you already have. in my opinion, its not working as it is as the head is too tall, the eyes too high for the cheekbones, the chin doesnt protrude enough and the cracks that youve added create thick lines where there should be none. i have made a quick 2 minute sketch of the skull image i posted previously to show you where i would put dense black lines and where i would use detail in finer features. i have also made a quick mock up with a secondary colour to add depth. hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenfish13 Posted January 2, 2010 Author Share Posted January 2, 2010 That took you 2 minutes... are you human? Thanks for the advice, I'll try and alter the skull as best as I can without ripping off your design Thanks. dribbble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidson Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 i just traced the picture really. hope its of use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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