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Division 1 College Conference Realignment

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1 minute ago, dfwabel said:

Rutgers has just one non-conference date available...in 2022.

 

Army is a national brand and is a draw.  UConn isn't.

I'll agree that branding is one thing, but teams need to fill calendar dates and if the American doesn't have anyone to fill UConn's slots in 2020, they'll probably just play those games. At some point though, teams need to fill slots and UConn can help fill slots that would've been used on FCS schools. Scheduling is not as desperate as people make it out to be. The problem for UConn is not having a cut of the conference pie that they would have by staying put. I'm actually surprised this move is based more on basketball than football because the reason the original Big East broke up was football taking over as the major sport in their bigger schools. You should still be able to recruit the same areas you did before no matter what league you're in and supposedly this will help men's basketball with recruiting and women's basketball with tougher games. I think the first part is possible, I don't think that second part is true. 

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Blope:

 

St. Thomas, subject approval of a waiver, is heading to the Summit League in 2021. The move comes two days after City Pages(a Twin Cities weekly) gave a good explanation why their soon to be former conference gave the Tommies their walking papers.

Edited by buzzcut
Stoopit spelchek.

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Like I mentioned before, this could give the Summit League football for the first time ever. That's a big deal.

 

In other realignment based moves:

-Tarleton State (TX) is heading to the WAC in 2020. Similar to fellow newcomer Dixie State, the Texans will become an FCS Independent program.

-Purdue Fort Wayne leaves the Summit for the Horizon. This move works better for the Mastodons since they'll be in a more centrally based league instead of being the eastern most school in a league that's looking to be more Great Plains based.

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1 hour ago, Seadragon76 said:

Like I mentioned before, this could give the Summit League football for the first time ever. That's a big deal.

 

In other realignment based moves:

-Tarleton State (TX) is heading to the WAC in 2020. Similar to fellow newcomer Dixie State, the Texans will become an FCS Independent program.

-Purdue Fort Wayne leaves the Summit for the Horizon. This move works better for the Mastodons since they'll be in a more centrally based league instead of being the eastern most school in a league that's looking to be more Central based.

 

I wonder how long the WAC deal is going to be for Tarleton State?  Is it going to be like New Mexico State in which they are WAC in all sports except football?  Or are they going to eventually join the Southland Conference in all sports? Or will they join the Southland in Football only?

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Fold the WAC already.  This is getting absurd.

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7 minutes ago, LMU said:

Fold the WAC already.  This is getting absurd.

 

The whole Tarleton State in the WAC is going to be a mess.  They will eventually join the Southland Conference. 

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Tarleton State's move isn't official yet, but the idea is that they're going to be in the WAC for all sports outside of football, which will be an FCS independent.

 

This is... a strange move, to a degree. They're in danger of being under the six school limit to considered a legitimate conference next season. They're losing Cal State Bakersfield to the Big West and Kansas City to the Summit. In return, you have two D-II invites (Dixie State and Tarleton State) coming in as replacements. Cal Baptist will only be halfway through the reclassification process. The WAC is basically one move or Chicago State closure from being dead meat.

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10 minutes ago, Seadragon76 said:

Tarleton State's move isn't official yet, but the idea is that they're going to be in the WAC for all sports outside of football, which will be an FCS independent.

 

This is... a strange move, to a degree. They're in danger of being under the six school limit to considered a legitimate conference next season. They're losing Cal State Bakersfield to the Big West and Kansas City to the Summit. In return, you have two D-II invites (Dixie State and Tarleton State) coming in as replacements. Cal Baptist will only be halfway through the reclassification process. The WAC is basically one move or Chicago State closure from being dead meat.

 

The move is strange because they have a football team.  They are also based out of Stephenville, Texas and there's already a conference in the FCS that features Texas schools that have football programs.  That's why I think Tarleton State will eventually end up in the Southland Conference after a few years.  It would also give them a 12th football playing school and balance out conference play. 

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On 10/5/2019 at 11:06 AM, Seadragon76 said:

Tarleton State's move isn't official yet, but the idea is that they're going to be in the WAC for all sports outside of football, which will be an FCS independent.

 

This is... a strange move, to a degree. They're in danger of being under the six school limit to considered a legitimate conference next season. They're losing Cal State Bakersfield to the Big West and Kansas City to the Summit. In return, you have two D-II invites (Dixie State and Tarleton State) coming in as replacements. Cal Baptist will only be halfway through the reclassification process. The WAC is basically one move or Chicago State closure from being dead meat.

Consider that the WAC has two west coast religious schools that could both conceivably end up in the WCC in Seattle and Cal Baptist, should they wish to expand. Also, Grand Canyon is religious and could themselves end up in the WCC.

 

This conference is barely more stable than the Great West conference was. (Notice that the WAC features THREE former GWC members in UTRGV, UVU, and Chicago State.)

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8 minutes ago, TrueYankee26 said:

Isn't Chicago State (not just athletics, the ENTIRE university) close to folding?

 

Yes... problem is that there's no real evidence of the school closing up shop any time soon.

 

If they don't, they can always drop their program to a lower level. Division II has the GLIAC, which has members that aren't too far off from where they are (Purdue Northwest, for example). In the NAIA, there's the Chicagoland Conference... perfect spot for them, if you ask me.

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