floydnimrod Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 6 hours ago, leopard88 said: I'm sure the powers-that-be in Morgantown long for the days when their shortest conference trip wasn't to Lawrence, KS or Ames, IA (which is just a guess because I didn't feel like looking this up). Cincinnati would be happy to help with that. 2 Quote Mancakes: The Bandhttps://twitter.com/FloydNimrod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfan7 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Some real realignment news for a change, instead of just speculation. https://www.stthomas.edu/athletics-future/ The NCAA grants St Thomas a waiver to go from D3 to D1, the first time this has happened since it was forbidden in 2010, the last team to do this was Buffalo in 1993. St Thomas is best known for getting kicked out of the MIAC for being to dominant. They will join the Summit League and play football in the Pioneer. Mens hockey is likely to join the newly recreated CCHA, while the Womens team joins the WCHA. They will be the second largest, and largest private, school in the Pioneer and are only Minnesota's second D1 program. The Tommies won the D3 Basketball tourney in 2011 and 2016 and won 8 straight dance titles from 2010-17 and 10 in the last 15 years. Facilities are a bit of a concern as only 14 D1 schools (7 from the NEC) have a smaller football stadium, only 22 have a smaller basketball arena, 3 have a smaller full-time ice arena, and 7 (Including 4 from the MAAC) have a smaller baseball field (I looked at pictures of some of the baseball fields that are smaller than St Thomas and I they look worse than most High School stadiums in my area, which is not a baseball hotbed). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadragon76 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 This is going to be a five year process, so the earliest St. Thomas can become a full time Division 1 member is 2026. It's enough time to fix this issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burmy Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 I always did find it strange that Minnesota had only one D1 school (especially when Wisconsin and Iowa have four each, and even the two Dakotas have two each). In addition to being the North Star State's second D1 school, it is also (I think) the second Catholic school in D1 not to be affiliated with any specific religious order (it's affiliated directly with the Archdiocese of St. Paul & Minneapolis, just as Seton Hall is with the Archdiocese of Newark). Welcome to D1, Tommies...I look forward to everything to come! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumpygremlin Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 hour ago, MBurmy said: In addition to being the North Star State's second D1 school, it is also (I think) the second Catholic school in D1 not to be affiliated with any specific religious order (it's affiliated directly with the Archdiocese of St. Paul & Minneapolis, just as Seton Hall is with the Archdiocese of Newark). With some quick Wikipedia research, so take that for what it's worth, it seems that there are a handful of such schools: Incarnate Word Mount St. Mary's Sacred Heart Seton Hall Bellarmine (reclassifying from D2) St. Thomas (will reclassify from D3) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMU Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, stumpygremlin said: With some quick Wikipedia research, so take that for what it's worth, it seems that there are a handful of such schools: Incarnate Word Mount St. Mary's Sacred Heart Seton Hall Bellarmine (reclassifying from D2) St. Thomas (will reclassify from D3) Also add San Diego (formerly Diocese of San Diego, now has its own board of trustees but not affiliated with a particular order). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian in Boston Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 I believe Incarnate Word University is affiliated with the Sisters of Charity of the Incarnate Word. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burmy Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 5 hours ago, stumpygremlin said: With some quick Wikipedia research, so take that for what it's worth, it seems that there are a handful of such schools: Incarnate Word Mount St. Mary's Sacred Heart Seton Hall Bellarmine (reclassifying from D2) St. Thomas (will reclassify from D3) Touché. (For some reason, I'd always thought that Bellarmine and Sacred Heart were Jesuit schools) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJMorris3 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 31 minutes ago, MBurmy said: Touché. (For some reason, I'd always thought that Bellarmine and Sacred Heart were Jesuit schools) Burmy, I think what you meant to say, and which I think is true, is that it's just the second diocesan post-secondary school in NCAA Division I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumpygremlin Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 6 hours ago, Brian in Boston said: I believe Incarnate Word University is affiliated with the Sisters of Charity of the Incarnate Word. Yes they are. I included them on the list because they are a Texas-based thing with two "orders," one in Houston and one in San Antonio. Since it was Sisters of Charity of the Incarnate Word being the organization that--is it oversees?--UIW, I included them. I'm not familiar enough with Catholic religious orders to know exactly how that all works, the differences between Jesuits, Franciscans, and however many others there are. My Wiki research essentially was looking at each school's Wiki page and seeing whether the affiliation said "Roman Catholic (Jesuit)" or some other such thing, or if it was just "Roman Catholic." So forgive me if I made any mistakes in my admittedly cursory research there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian in Boston Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 14 hours ago, MBurmy said: I'd always thought that Bellarmine and Sacred Heart were Jesuit schools It's understandable. Bellarmine University, while founded as an archdiocesan institution, is named for the Italian Jesuit theologian Saint Robert Bellarmine. As for Sacred Heart, you may have conflated it with Fairfield University. Both schools are located in Fairfield, Connecticut (no more than 5 or 6 miles from one another), with Fairfield being a Jesuit institution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfan7 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 As far as I can tell, these are the only D1 Catholic schools not affiliated with a specific Catholic Order Mount St. Mary's - Associated with several Archdioceses, is the second largest Seminary in the US and home to a pilgrimage site Seton Hall - Run by the Archdiocese of Newark (Diocese of Newark when it founded SH) St Thomas - Run by the Archdiocese of St Paul and Minneapolis, formerly run by the Holy Cross Fathers Bellarmine - Founded by the Archdiocese of Louisville, became independent after merging with Ursuline College Sacred Heart - Founded by the Diocese of Bridgeport, first independent Catholic University in the US San Diego - Founded by the Diocese of San Diego, now run by an Independent board, of which the Bishop of San Diego is a permanent member Incarnate Word is run by the Sisters of Charity of the Incarnate Word, who are part of the worldwide Sisters of Charity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostOfNormMacdonald Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 The Tommy-Johnny game is going to be missed. It was really the only rivalry between the Twin Cities and outstate that anyone followed. Growing up Catholic in MN you need to pick a side (me being a ruralite picked St. John's) and it becomes a part of your identity. A 100 year rivalry gone just like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfan7 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 14 minutes ago, Maroon&Gold said: The Tommy-Johnny game is going to be missed. It was really the only rivalry between the Twin Cities and outstate that anyone followed. Growing up Catholic in MN you need to pick a side (me being a ruralite picked St. John's) and it becomes a part of your identity. A 100 year rivalry gone just like that I believe both sides have left open the possibility of playing it. I remember Davidson, St Thomas's new conference mate, played D3 Guilford last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Pioneer League-D3 matchups are fairly common tilts in non-COVID years. Probably because most Pioneer League programs are glorified D3 teams that have to play D1 because of NCAA bylaws. 1 Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burkell007 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 So me and my best friend had had this debate: we all know most D1 FBS conferences will go to 16 teams. So I make the “out there” idea of the SEC adding UNC(not that far out there) &.....Cincinnati. I make the point it’s a new state and Ohio is a hotbed for recruits. He says “it’s not southern enough” and they should add UCF, Houston or Memphis. Your thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Cincinnati isn't southern enough. Then again, West Virginia is in the Big XII while Mizzou is in the SEC. :censored:, maybe Cincinnati and North Carolina do get poached. Its been that kind of year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Cincinnati’s hang up would be Nippert’s size. I could see the SEC giving it a sniff but they’re not gonna play every game at Paul Brown and Nippert can’t really be expanded. I don’t see UCF, Houston, or Memphis simply because they don’t bring new markets. If the UVA-VT legal pairing could be ended, NCSU and VT would be great gets for the SEC. That or one of the two and WVU. Honestly, I could see the SEC picking off one or two ACC teams, the ACC going after Cinci (bring back the Keg of Nails), maybe UCONN if they can get their ish together in football, and perhaps a school like Memphis (former Metro rivals of Louisville, Cinci, VT, and Florida State; gets them into Tennessee; and they’ve already bent a little on academics with Louisville). If they needed a fourth school, maybe school like App State to strengthen the football membership and reestablish having four North Carolina schools. All of this assumes ND to the B1G obviously. 1 Quote Athletic Director: KTU Blue Grassers Football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostOfNormMacdonald Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 26 minutes ago, Geoff said: Cincinnati’s hang up would be Nippert’s size Nippert holds about as many people as Vanderbilt stadium. That said, I'd much rather see UNC and NCSU in the SEC than anyone else, for geographies sake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Maroon&Gold said: Nippert holds about as many people as Vanderbilt stadium. That said, I'd much rather see UNC and NCSU in the SEC than anyone else, for geographies sake Vandy's only in the SEC because they're a charter member (and its nice to have the Nashville presence, but seriously it's the charter member thing.) 1 Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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