rams80 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 11 hours ago, Red Wolf said: I don't understand how Chicago State is still D1 when every article I ever see about them is how the school is on the verge of shutting down entirely. The athletes actually bolster enrollment. 1 Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimalCookie Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 11 hours ago, Dilbert said: Because if they leave they have control over who they schedule to play, bigger opponents, more revenue, better chances at a playoff spot, than in a non power 5. The Power 5 considers schools like BYU and Notre Dame to be power 5 schools, but not schools like UMASS or New Mexico State. However, as Independents, all have access to the college football playoff and new years six as at large bids. Scheduling more power 5 schools and beating them can earn them a higher chance of getting in. ND is considered P5, but I wouldn't say BYU is. If they were during their undefeated run they would've been top 10, maybe even top 5 before losing to Coastal, instead of where they actually were in the mid teens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickp91 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Chicago State should have never been in the WAC in the first place 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burmy Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 19 minutes ago, nickp91 said: Chicago State should have never been in the WAC in the first place IIRC, they were kicked out of the Summit (back when it was the Mid-Continent Conference) for constantly finishing last back in the mid-00s. So yeah, the WAC was desperate...which other D1 conference would take them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadragon76 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, MBurmy said: IIRC, they were kicked out of the Summit (back when it was the Mid-Continent Conference) for constantly finishing last back in the mid-00s. So yeah, the WAC was desperate...which other D1 conference would take them? The only options are the Summit League and the Horizon League and neither league really wants them because the Cougars are god awful (They're the only team in the WAC without any conference titles under their belt). I think that D2, D3 or even dropping to NAIA might be their best bet. Each route has their advantages and disadvantages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 4 hours ago, MBurmy said: IIRC, they were kicked out of the Summit (back when it was the Mid-Continent Conference) for constantly finishing last back in the mid-00s. So yeah, the WAC was desperate...which other D1 conference would take them? Chicago State bailed, they weren't kicked (although life in the Summit League was apparently too hard for them, which again raises serious questions about why you are in D-1 to begin with since the Summit League is the league teams fresh out of D-2 join.) 1 Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Wolf Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 15 hours ago, rams80 said: The athletes actually bolster enrollment. I remember one of the articles talking about their freshman enrollment being like 80-something several years back. Central Arkansas is officially joining the Atlantic Sun, so I guess they're doing that weird plan where they expand to 20 or so and then split in half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilbert Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 10 hours ago, Magic Dynasty said: ND is considered P5, but I wouldn't say BYU is. If they were during their undefeated run they would've been top 10, maybe even top 5 before losing to Coastal, instead of where they actually were in the mid teens. ACC, SEC and Big Ten all consider BYU power 5 for scheduling purposes. The Big Ten and SEC also consider Army as well. Quote Signature intentionally left blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMU Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Let's not kid ourselves here, the WAC has been in desperation mode for years and I'm shocked that they got multiple D-I schools to fall for their shell game. The only thing keeping them alive has been bringing up D-II scabs. I don't see how this FCS to FBS springboard plan has any chance to work here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Wolf Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 18 hours ago, LMU said: Let's not kid ourselves here, the WAC has been in desperation mode for years and I'm shocked that they got multiple D-I schools to fall for their shell game. The only thing keeping them alive has been bringing up D-II scabs. I don't see how this FCS to FBS springboard plan has any chance to work here. It doesn’t. A quick glance at the Southland defectors’ budgets and facilities shows that they have no shot at going FBS. They reached out to New Mexico State to play football with them and NMSU said they had no intention of going FCS. Same goes for the pipe dream of bizarro A-Sun going FBS in the future. I suspect neither they nor the WAC have any real designs on FBS, it’s just a thing for internet people to yammer on about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavybass Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Or I always consider Boise State to be a PAC-12 worthy member.... but an independent esc powerhouse like Notre Dame and Army works too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadragon76 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, heavybass said: Or I always consider Boise State to be a PAC-12 worthy member.... but an independent esc powerhouse like Notre Dame and Army works too. Neither option works for me. The Pac-12 would want Boise to in with someone in order to keep the partner pairs equal and to keep some sort of order. Now, who would be willing to join Boise? Well, BYU is a decent option.. but you have to work around their 'No Sunday' rule (which isn't that difficult to work with). Idaho is another option, but who am I kidding? Going Independent in football requires lots of money. Boise would need to get some sort of sweet heart deal with ESPN (Like BYU does) or Fox Sports (Who has the Mountain West deal right now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavybass Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Put in the San Diego State Aztecs... the look is practically made for Pac 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Pretty sure all 4 California-based Pac 12 members would be no votes on that. Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burkell007 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Or UNLV or maybe of Air Force? Both hit markets tv wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 UNLV football is a roaring trashfire and UNLV Men's basketball hasn't made the Dance since 2013 when really the last of Lon Kruger's recruits aged out; they are on their third coach since Kruger took the Oklahoma job. Air Force has been worse in basketball and mediocre in football. 1 Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Wolf Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Nobody from the Mountain West has a chance at the Pac-12 unless something apocalyptic happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfan7 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 34 minutes ago, Red Wolf said: Nobody from the Mountain West has a chance at the Pac-12 unless something apocalyptic happens. Well, the Pac-12 was looking into selling shares in itself not too long ago. Not sure if this matters or not, but SDSU plays men's soccer in the PAC-12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Wolf Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 35 minutes ago, sportsfan7 said: Not sure if this matters or not, but SDSU plays men's soccer in the PAC-12. It doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavybass Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Central Arkensas will join the ASun conference this year.... in a division that contains Liberty, North Alabama and Kennesaw State with rumors of them adding Jacksonville State and Eastern Kentucky eventually to come with FBS aspiritions. https://www.aseaofred.com/central-arkansas-others-to-join-asun-conference/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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