NFL 2010-2011

[andrewharrington]

The mere term "logo system" makes me itchy.

A logo system is a set of logos, usually paired with essential guidelines whose purpose is to inform employees and designers of the correct usage of said logos. What the Super Bowl has here is more like a logo template... within a logo system. A system is good. A template is not so good (in this case).

[Shephawk]

The Seahawks have NOT for most of their existance, sucked. They have had an over above average winning past.

Seattle has a regular season franchise win-loss record of 250-266 and 257-276 overall (.484 and .482 win percentages respectively)

They went 21 years without winning a playoff game.

Try again please.

And before you start, the Rams have a better win percentage, even after the abominable misrule of the Georgia Frontiere regime.

you beat me to it.

the franchise has historically been mediocre at best. Thankfully, they went to a Super Bowl but other than that they haven't had that much more to cheer any more than anyother NFL team.

I think its easy to lose objectivity when you are so close to something (i.e. a huge fan of the team) Getting a new stadium, making the Super Bowl, getting a sleak new look and now getting Pete Carroll are all huge positives for the franchise. I would argue that leaving the past behind would be a good idea for the team. Forget the royal blue unis, forget the Kingdome...just move on and don't look back.

I'm not positive but I think the success of the Seahawks in the 80s rivaled that of the Seahawks of the 2000s. They didn't make it to the Super Bowl but were close and won the division and made the playoffs multiple times. In my mind, there is value behind the Royal and Green of old.

Well, from 1977-1998 (20 + years) they had 164 wins and 192 losses for a winning percentage of .460. They won 3 playoff games in those 20+ years and went to zero Super Bowls.

From 1999-present (10 years ) they have 91 wins and 85 losses for a winning percentage of .517. They won 4 playoff games in 10 years and went to a Super Bowl.

Its tough to argue that the new millenium Seahawks have a better track record then the old time hawks. But of course we all know wins and losses have nothing to do with uniforms, but I digress

[Shephawk]

The hawks history is divided up in the following years...76-82 the expansion patera yrs where they were 39-62...then chuck Knox turned this team to be no one liked to play....the 83-89 teams were always tough to play. The best teams were 83, 84, and the 86 team that won 7 straight just to miss the playoffs. Yeah take out those patera yrs out, better than .500. The 92-95 teams were bad because of Flores influence. Erickson was typical hawks, be good enough to tease you, that's about it. Holmgren was the best overall 10 yrs, but knoxs teams were defensively tough. So you have the expansion years, the Knox years, the 90's, then the holmgren years. Yes alot of average8-8's, but the Knox and holmgren erras featured good football. Seattle is a team often forgotten about, but some do remember that they have had great stretches. Look up the 84 hawk defense, and of course the 03-07 teams under holmgren.

76-82- 39wins- 62 losses

83-98- 125wins- 130 losses

[Shephawk]

The hawks history is divided up in the following years...76-82 the expansion patera yrs where they were 39-62...then chuck Knox turned this team to be no one liked to play....the 83-89 teams were always tough to play. The best teams were 83, 84, and the 86 team that won 7 straight just to miss the playoffs. Yeah take out those patera yrs out, better than .500. The 92-95 teams were bad because of Flores influence. Erickson was typical hawks, be good enough to tease you, that's about it. Holmgren was the best overall 10 yrs, but knoxs teams were defensively tough. So you have the expansion years, the Knox years, the 90's, then the holmgren years. Yes alot of average8-8's, but the Knox and holmgren erras featured good football. Seattle is a team often forgotten about, but some do remember that they have had great stretches. Look up the 84 hawk defense, and of course the 03-07 teams under holmgren.

the 84 defense had 3 shutouts, and the altime post super bowl take away number of all time- 60 plus. The 12-4 record was a wildcard year...den went 13-3. After Fouts was done in sd, it was always Denver, Seattle, and Oakland battling. Kc did not resurrect until Marty ball after 89.

The seahawks worst stretch was after Behring bought the team from the nordstroms. They would hire Tom Flores who drafted bosworth and three 1st round picks would be used on qbs ( stouffer via the cards, mcguire, and mirer).

[BBTV]

so if they had a designer understanding their past history they could pull off a great uniform.

So... the designer makes the final decision on what the team will wear? Right.

IMO, the current Seahawks set is near perfect, as long as they ditch the navy and white pants and stick to the slate blue.

[AndrewG70]

IMO, the current Seahawks set is near perfect, as long as they ditch the navy and white pants and stick to the slate blue.

Change the sleeves on the blue jersey from navy to slate blue and you have a perfect set. Also, lighten the slate blue a few shades to give it more contrast with the navy (and to also match the shade of slate blue at the bottom of the helmet logo).

[rams80]

so if they had a designer understanding their past history they could pull off a great uniform.

I disagree, puke olive is rather unattractive.

[FiddySicks]

so if they had a designer understanding their past history they could pull off a great uniform.

So... the designer makes the final decision on what the team will wear? Right.

IMO, the current Seahawks set is near perfect, as long as they ditch the navy and white pants and stick to the slate blue.

Same here. I simply cannot see why so many strongly dislike the Seahawks unis. And I don't for one second buy that crap about it being dull or dingy. Half of football is looking dull or dingy from getting banged around and knocked onto a dirt and grass field all game (sometimes in weather too). If anything, the "dinginess" of their colors helps to hide the fact that they've been knocked around all day in the dirt/mud. That in itself should be commended.

[oldschoolvikings]

Glad someone brought up those depressing Seahawk unis. Gives me a chance to say, once again;

Monochrome sucks.

(White pants with the dark jersey, dark pants with the white jersey... you know, like they do in the NFL)

[andrewharrington]

Glad someone brought up those depressing Seahawk unis. Gives me a chance to say, once again;

Monochrome sucks.

(White pants with the dark jersey, dark pants with the white jersey... you know, like they do in the NFL)

You probably already know this, but they had monochrome in the 30s, 40s and 50s, too. It's not like it's some new, modern phenomenon. Also, nearly every other type of uniform is traditionally monochrome, be it a men's suit, a service uniform, a baseball or basketball uniform, a law enforcement uniform...

[IceCap]

Glad someone brought up those depressing Seahawk unis. Gives me a chance to say, once again;

Monochrome sucks.

(White pants with the dark jersey, dark pants with the white jersey... you know, like they do in the NFL)

You probably already know this, but they had monochrome in the 30s, 40s and 50s, too. It's not like it's some new, modern phenomenon. Also, nearly every other type of uniform is traditionally monochrome, be it a men's suit, a service uniform, a baseball or basketball uniform, a law enforcement uniform...

Really though, the difference, to me at least, is that monochrome just looks bad in a football uniform. If the Seahawks would wear their slate jerseys with white pants, and their white jerseys with their slate pants they would have one of the best contemporary looks in the NFL.

[Lee.]

This just in: Different people like different things.

[oldschoolvikings]

This just in: Different people like different things.

That's just crazy talk...

[The Fixer]

Bears to wear 1940s throwback uniforms

they'll wear them for 2 games this season. I'm not really a fan (though I am super excited bout a new jersey). It seems like its just a way to get a new design out there for profit (which it'll certainly work on me). I rather them just wear for 1 game though. 2 seems like overkill. hard to picture Jay Cutler in one of those

http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=6696

and taken from their 1940's Uniform history

[The_Admiral]

sigh

[powersurge]

sigh

double sigh

and add a huge WHY? in there too.

[The Fixer]

sigh

double sigh

and add a huge WHY? in there too.

im glad that they did SOMETHING, but this is just not it in my opinion. Ive had a little time to digest it

[CJworks]

They are really trying too hard with these throwback uniforms, as if they're doing this just for the hell of it.

[powersurge]

sigh

double sigh

and add a huge WHY? in there too.

im glad that they did SOMETHING, but this is just not it in my opinion. Ive had a little time to digest it

In the end I could care less what they wear if they make it back to, and maybe actually WIN a Super Bowl before 2040.

[The Fixer]

thatd be nice. hey we are 1-0 though!