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He is not a player so I don't care if he does any kinds of drugs.

Semi related, the only time I care if someone does drugs is if it is a performance enhancer. So let's just say that a player is caught doing [insert drug here]; I would not care unless it is a performance enhancer. Players are grown men and if someone does drugs on their own time, that is their business and I don't care, as long as it is not a performance enhancer.

In conclusion, to me, the definition of being "clean" is never to have taken a performance enhancer.

You would not know if a player is on street drugs as they are not tested for them unless the team has suspicion. Managers, coaches, and staff are tested for street drugs just like minor leagues.

The larger issue is that he is a "general", not a "soldier". If he shows poor judgment in this case, should he be responsible for the calls on the bench. This is an easy case to terminate with cause, yet the team (for now) has kept him. I wonder if the ownership issue had something to do with this since MLB basically ran the club last season.

How long has he been using cocaine? The fact of the matter is, that he didn't just one day walk into the store and say, "Hmm, I need something different today." This is ridiculous that he still has a job and it sends a horrible message not only to kids but throughout the Rangers organization. I have no clue how you could even take anything this joker says seriously. I've always believed he was a joke of a manager and he just proved it. My question is and it always is in these cases, who does he have information on that they didn't fire his butt the second he admitted to it. The Rangers as an organization have always had little credibility, and now they have none. How is he not suspended or even fired? Oh sure, a player can be suspended for performance enhancing drugs, but there is no repercussion for a manager that admits to using cocaine and you know it wasn't a one time deal. You know he's using it now and has been for a long time. We've all known that Bud Selig has no balls and now we just realized that Nolan Ryan has none by not firing this joker. Yes, I said it, Nolan Ryan has no balls and no credibility. This is his manager and he should've fired him.

 

 

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The Ron Washington cocaine story just took a left turn... apparently the reason the story came out now is because a disgruntled former employee of the Rangers tried to blackmail the team.

A blackmailer had the goods on the team's manager, and he was making strong demands, using the manager's "situation" as his hammer. Numerous sources within the team have confirmed that.

This is why recreational illegal drug use by team personnel is as big a deal as using performance-enhancing drugs or betting on the sport. Any activity that can later be used against you or your organization as blackmail is a huge risk to the integrity of the game.

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The Ron Washington cocaine story just took a left turn... apparently the reason the story came out now is because a disgruntled former employee of the Rangers tried to blackmail the team.

A blackmailer had the goods on the team's manager, and he was making strong demands, using the manager's "situation" as his hammer. Numerous sources within the team have confirmed that.

This is why recreational illegal drug use by team personnel is as big a deal as using performance-enhancing drugs or betting on the sport. Any activity that can later be used against you or your organization as blackmail is a huge risk to the integrity of the game.

This would be a good Top Ten list your baseball team is in trouble:

10: player in uniform smoking coke is the manager. :)

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Just to get additional facts out there regarding drug testing and non-players.

Credit: Dallas Morning News

Under the collective bargaining agreement between Major League Baseball and the MLB Players Association, players can be tested for three classes of drugs: drugs of abuse, performance-enhancing drugs and stimulants. All players are tested for PEDs and stimulants at least twice, once within five days of reporting to spring training. Additional random tests are conducted throughout the year, including the off-season. Players are not routinely tested for "drugs of abuse," which are defined as cocaine, LSD, marijuana, opiates, Ecstasy, GHB and PCP. Testing for drugs of abuse are conducted only if "reasonable cause," as defined by the collective bargaining agreement, exists or if the player is already in the drug treatment program.

What are MLB managers and other staff tested for, and when?

According to The Associated Press, management has a different set of drug-testing rules than the one for players on 40-man rosters that were negotiated by MLB and the MLB Players Association. Managers and coaches are tested four times per year for all three classes of drugs. Other front-office personnel ? anybody in the club's employ ? can be tested at random.

What's the basic disciplinary action?

For management employees who test positive for cocaine and other recreational drugs ? as opposed to steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs ? treatment is mandatory, and decisions on discipline are made by the team and MLB case by case. For PEDs and stimulants, the penalty for managers and coaches would be the same. A positive test for a PED would net a 50-game suspension for the first offense; a stimulant would net a 25-game suspension.

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The Ron Washington cocaine story just took a left turn... apparently the reason the story came out now is because a disgruntled former employee of the Rangers tried to blackmail the team.

A blackmailer had the goods on the team's manager, and he was making strong demands, using the manager's "situation" as his hammer. Numerous sources within the team have confirmed that.

This is why recreational illegal drug use by team personnel is as big a deal as using performance-enhancing drugs or betting on the sport. Any activity that can later be used against you or your organization as blackmail is a huge risk to the integrity of the game.

The team refutes the story of extortion. A baseball team staff is relatively small, so the number of "disgruntled employees" who leave an organization can be counted on one hand. Nolan Ryan said today that not even Tom Hicks knew of the drug use. This morning, Ryan claimed that only he, Asst. GM Thad Levine, and Daniels were the only staff who knew of this issue.

On Thursday, Daniels was asked via email if:

? A former Rangers employee ever tried to use knowledge of Ron Washington?s drug test as leverage to improve a severance package or recommendation for future employment.

? If the club ever felt extorted or blackmailed.

? If police or authorities were consulted about any blackmail attempts or pressure.

Daniels response: ?No to all three [questions].?

After using cocaine last summer, Washington was notified of an upcoming drug test and notified both Major League Baseball and the Rangers front office of his usage. Players and staff, however, did not find out until Wednesday morning during a meeting with the manager.

Said Ryan: ?To my knowledge there was nothing made in reference to Ron?s situation. I don?t know of any kind of threat that was made against him or his situation.?

The Rangers did fire several long-time employees after last season, but nobody who would have had first-hand knowledge of a positive drug test. Only the MLB drug testing officials, the highest level of Rangers management and Washington were to have the results.

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Posted in another thread, but it could belong here too.

Fun story -

Jamie Moyer is in a battle for the 5th spot in the roation against young Kyle Kendrick. Kyle Kendrick has basically become Roy Halladay's "apprentice", and has had a great camp. It is thought that the team still wants Moyer to open the season in the rotation, because of his high salary.

Moyer has been pitching the "B" games, presumably so that he could have good enough stats to support a starting job. Well, the Blue Jays sent their "A" lineup to the last "B" game, and they lit Moyer's ass up. He said he was shocked to see 7 regulars in the lineup, and not a bunch of guys with numbers in the '80s.

The rumor is that Halladay made a phone call, and asked that the Jays send their A team to beat up Moyer, so that it would help Kendrick win the job. I kind of hope it's true, because it's brilliant.

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Just to throw this out there, the only bad decision that people generally make while doing cocaine is to buy more cocaine. It's a hell of a drug, but it's not exactly a hallucinogen or a psychotropic.

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Posted in another thread, but it could belong here too.

Fun story -

Jamie Moyer is in a battle for the 5th spot in the roation against young Kyle Kendrick. Kyle Kendrick has basically become Roy Halladay's "apprentice", and has had a great camp. It is thought that the team still wants Moyer to open the season in the rotation, because of his high salary.

Moyer has been pitching the "B" games, presumably so that he could have good enough stats to support a starting job. Well, the Blue Jays sent their "A" lineup to the last "B" game, and they lit Moyer's ass up. He said he was shocked to see 7 regulars in the lineup, and not a bunch of guys with numbers in the '80s.

The rumor is that Halladay made a phone call, and asked that the Jays send their A team to beat up Moyer, so that it would help Kendrick win the job. I kind of hope it's true, because it's brilliant.

Wow! Definitely an early nomination for move of the year.

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Posted in another thread, but it could belong here too.

Fun story -

Jamie Moyer is in a battle for the 5th spot in the roation against young Kyle Kendrick. Kyle Kendrick has basically become Roy Halladay's "apprentice", and has had a great camp. It is thought that the team still wants Moyer to open the season in the rotation, because of his high salary.

Moyer has been pitching the "B" games, presumably so that he could have good enough stats to support a starting job. Well, the Blue Jays sent their "A" lineup to the last "B" game, and they lit Moyer's ass up. He said he was shocked to see 7 regulars in the lineup, and not a bunch of guys with numbers in the '80s.

The rumor is that Halladay made a phone call, and asked that the Jays send their A team to beat up Moyer, so that it would help Kendrick win the job. I kind of hope it's true, because it's brilliant.

Wow! Definitely an early nomination for move of the year.

Even if it turns out there is not truth to this at all, it's still funny to picture Halladay doing that.

 
 
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I know it is only Spring Training, but today vs the Phillies starting roster...

Brian Matusz: 5.1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 6 K

I have never been more excited for the baseball season to start than right now. It is not only Matusz, Wieters, Tillman, Bergesen, Riemold, Hernandez all have me excited. .500 this year, playoffs in 2011, make it happen Dave!

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Jamie Moyer needs to just hang it up.

He had a great career but, how long does he expect to pitch.

As long as they'll pay him ridiculously high amounts of money to do so. You gotta remember that Moyer has a pretty hefty contract that is (I would guess anyway) damn near impossible for the Phillies to get out of in a positive way.

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Jamie Moyer needs to just hang it up.

He had a great career but, how long does he expect to pitch.

As long as they'll pay him ridiculously high amounts of money to do so. You gotta remember that Moyer has a pretty hefty contract that is (I would guess anyway) damn near impossible for the Phillies to get out of in a positive way.

He's on the hook for 8 or 9 million this year. They've eaten contracts like that recently, and while it would suck to have to do so for a local icon like Moyer, god is he old and does he suck. It would be so much easier if he would just die or retire or something.

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